Euro 2008 Final - Germany vs. Spain

dont panic! wrote:hilarious or arrogance..:

http://www.sport1.de/de/sport/artikel_2286282.html

they are basically saying that in almost all the positions on the pitch germany have the advantage over spain..and in a few others its basically equal...

INCREDIBLE..

It's just outdated German patronizing mentality towards them Spanish me thinks. If only they knew the Spanish are out to whoop their ass. There goes my $250!

Torres with Fabregas

Please do what you both do at your clubs.........please!

Oooh a Spainiard has won the latest Euro tour event in golf, hopefully a omen of things to come

Any news on Ballack?

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:8 hours to kick off and i'm bricking it, ffs not even spanish but living here i so badly want them to win for what would be an amazing night/morning.

All of Spain and most of Latin America will be glued to their TV's FFS! What I like/dislike about this Spanish team is that Aragones has united them finally. Them Spanish FINALLY became ONE UNIT, no more different factions of madridistas, catalanes, valencianos, andaluces, vascos...I don't see that at all. It's just one team pulling together.

It took a colchonero to unite a Spanish team. You know anyone else would've called Raul to play for Spain again just to f@ck everything up in the team.

TheCrazy58 wrote:Any news on Ballack?

He will play.

But since he hasn't trained in the last few days (including today), there is no way that he will be fully fit for the final.

blutgraetsche wrote:

TheCrazy58 wrote:Any news on Ballack?

He will play.

But since he hasn't trained in the last few days (including today), there is no way that he will be fully fit for the final.

Cheers. Will keep him my fantasy team then

dont panic! wrote:hilarious or arrogance..:

http://www.sport1.de/de/sport/artikel_2286282.html

they are basically saying that in almost all the positions on the pitch germany have the advantage over spain..and in a few others its basically equal...

INCREDIBLE..

Actually it´s three times advantage Germany, three times advantage Spain, three times a draw and one time undecided, because it´s not clear whether Ballack or Borowski will play tonight.

The article ends with the conclusion that Spain are the most constant side at this tournament having the better individual players and that Germany would have to equalize that with more running and fighting.

Ballack will surely play...missing training since Friday might just be a precaution. It's not like a couple of missed training sessions will make him unfit is it? I don't actually know what the problem is, but I'm sure it won't be bad enough to rule him out of the final (I hope).

Don't know why you even bother chrissi, whoever takes trees lies and propaganda about Germany seriously should be shot.

Another article which actually says that Spain have a clear advantage when it comes to individual class:

http://www.sportal.de/sportal/generated/article/fussball/2008/06/29/10029200000.html

blutgraetsche wrote:

TheCrazy58 wrote:Any news on Ballack?

He will play.

But since he hasn't trained in the last few days (including today), there is no way that he will be fully fit for the final.

Considering his great form, I don´t think that two days without training really matter.

Puro wrote:It took a colchonero to unite a Spanish team. You know anyone else would've called Raul to play for Spain again just to f@ck everything up in the team.

defo puro the best decision he made

Deano-Forza Italia wrote:Ballack will surely play...missing training since Friday might just be a precaution. It's not like a couple of missed training sessions will make him unfit is it? I don't actually know what the problem is, but I'm sure it won't be bad enough to rule him out of the final (I hope).

It's a calf injury, the same injury which forced him to rest in the first group match against Coasta Rica in 2006.

I hope you are right, but I'm rather pessimistic.

blutgraetsche wrote:

Deano-Forza Italia wrote:Ballack will surely play...missing training since Friday might just be a precaution. It's not like a couple of missed training sessions will make him unfit is it? I don't actually know what the problem is, but I'm sure it won't be bad enough to rule him out of the final (I hope).

It's a calf injury, the same injury which forced him to rest in the first group match against Coasta Rica in 2006.

I hope you are right, but I'm rather pessimistic.

I guess you would be tbh...obviously it's the chance of your team losing your best player. The thing is, it's the final, and maybe he's missed training so he doesn't aggrevate it?

its all part of the mind games ffs

blutgraetsche wrote:Don't know why you even bother chrissi, whoever takes trees lies and propaganda about Germany seriously should be shot.

Another article which actually says that Spain have a clear advantage when it comes to individual class:

http://www.sportal.de/sportal/generated/article/fussball/2008/06/29/10029200000.html

Well, I think we can at least expect he tries a bit harder when he´s looking for articles to prove his propaganda. So it was a bit too cheap, even for him.

Deano-Forza Italia wrote:
I guess you would be tbh...obviously it's the chance of your team losing your best player. The thing is, it's the final, and maybe he's missed training so he doesn't aggrevate it?

Definitely, the docs 'worked' on his injury instead, used electro shocks and what not.

Time will tell. If we want to win, we need a fully fit Ballack at the top of his game. I hope that the motivation to play in the final (would be his first final for Germany btw.) will make him forget the pain (if it's still hurting) and give his best.

Gomez will win it for Germany. You just know it.

Destiny

chrissicross wrote:
Well, I think we can at least expect he tries a bit harder when he´s looking for articles to prove his propaganda. So it was a bit too cheap, even for him.

He's probably speculating on the fact that only few people on here can actually read German. It worked with Puro at least.

blutgraetsche wrote:

chrissicross wrote:
Well, I think we can at least expect he tries a bit harder when he´s looking for articles to prove his propaganda. So it was a bit too cheap, even for him.

He's probably speculating on the fact that only few people on here can actually read German. It worked with Puro at least.

I actually went with what a couple of Germans have written here regarding how them Spanish will be afraid of you Germans, "they will pee when they see Germany again"....

Puro wrote:
I actually went with what a couple of Germans have written here regarding how them Spanish will be afraid of you Germans, "they will pee when they see Germany again"....

A few Germans = otto and Deisler, I suppose?

blutgraetsche wrote:

chrissicross wrote:
Well, I think we can at least expect he tries a bit harder when he´s looking for articles to prove his propaganda. So it was a bit too cheap, even for him.

He's probably speculating on the fact that only few people on here can actually read German. It worked with Puro at least.

Puro is panic-stricken though he might lose money tonight.

Like Deano said, maybe he just rested to make sure the injury doesn't actually become an injury (if you know what I mean). In fact, perhaps the 2 days of rest will refresh him compared to the other players on the pitch?

This repeated "he won't be fully fit" smacks a bit of getting the excuses in early, blut.

kas, no excuses. Doesn't matter if Ballack is fully fit or not, Spain are the favourite, as I said before the injury was known already (go back a few pages).

The thing is...I don't see why Germany are getting blamed for mind games. Ok, it's possible...but probably more a case of the press have got hold of the fact Ballack has a knock and then the rest is obvious...

I expect him to play anyway...I think it'd have to be pretty bad so that Ballack himself would say he is too injured to play.

Deano-Forza Italia wrote:The thing is...I don't see why Germany are getting blamed for mind games. Ok, it's possible...but probably more a case of the press have got hold of the fact Ballack has a knock and then the rest is obvious...

I expect him to play anyway...I think it'd have to be pretty bad so that Ballack himself would say he is too injured to play.

The thing is, we need a Ballack in top form tonight. If he plays like he did against Turkey, he'd be useless anyway. That's why I'm pessimistic, because he is one of those players who cover most ground, that's his style, hence he needs to be fully fit.

Mind games or not, if he plays Cr@p tonight, we will lose. Simple as that.

Lothar Matthaus says: The heart says Germany, but the head is saying Spain.

"I thought Spain played incredible well against Russia. I just don't think you can play any better then did in the second-half. It was one-touch football full of great ball control and elegance - but they were also very solid defensively. When you can keep players like Cesc Fabregas out your starting eleven then you know that you must be loaded with quality players.

"For the final you have to make the Spanish team favourites. No other team has shown their level of consistency throughout the whole tournament.

"Spain has more individual quality in their line-up than Germany has. It is imperative that Germany tries to limit space in the centre of midfield because that is where most of Spain's creativity comes from.

"The one advantage that Germany do have is that they are always so strong when the pressure is on. Their team spirit and passion could help compensate for their lack of strength in other areas."

Brian2468 wrote:

L.r.d wrote:Im finding it hard to support either team, what a $h!t final this is

Who would you like to of seen out of the other finalists teams

Holland, Croatia, Portugal, Turkey i don't know a team where it isnt harder to support them than it is to hate them

Desgraciats wrote:It is just a disgruntled Man Utd supporter upset at not having any players in the final..

Not really there was hardly any man utd players in the whole tourney, so a final with none was half expected.

I am happy it has come out this way. Spain are quality, Germany are a class act. For me this can not be any worse than the 2004 and 2006 finals. Game on in two hours......

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:

Puro wrote:It took a colchonero to unite a Spanish team. You know anyone else would've called Raul to play for Spain again just to f@ck everything up in the team.

defo puro the best decision he made

Why is Raul such a controversial figure in the Spanish team? Is he simply a c**t?

Maybe he is like some of our top English players. Plays well for club but come up short playing for there country.