Man Utd make move for Berbatov

Roger Hunt wrote:Kimbol may have been right all along shock

Article in the Times today quotes Ramos as saying that he may have to sell Berbatov and Keane in order to balance the books after Spurs have spent £82m in the last year.

Spuds v Kimbo - it's so on!!!


Fight !!! Fight!!!!

He didn't say that.


"At Tottenham, we have had a clear philosophy regarding buying and selling for years. The idea is signing young players, promising and talented ones, and if important offers for older players are made, studying it to see what is the best for the club."

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11675_3830036,00.html

DS wrote:Isnt the same as Liverpool making a bid for Barry and telling press about it.

Liverpool haven't gone to the press and said 'I am confident of signing Barry'

nor have we reported Real Madrid for doing the exact same thing to one of our players

Giovani Dos Spurs wrote:

Roger Hunt wrote:Kimbol may have been right all along shock

Article in the Times today quotes Ramos as saying that he may have to sell Berbatov and Keane in order to balance the books after Spurs have spent £82m in the last year.

Spuds v Kimbo - it's so on!!!


Fight !!! Fight!!!!

He didn't say that.


"At Tottenham, we have had a clear philosophy regarding buying and selling for years. The idea is signing young players, promising and talented ones, and if important offers for older players are made, studying it to see what is the best for the club."

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11675_3830036,00.html

When you read between the lines....

Kimbo wrote:

Giovani Dos Spurs wrote:

Roger Hunt wrote:Kimbol may have been right all along shock

Article in the Times today quotes Ramos as saying that he may have to sell Berbatov and Keane in order to balance the books after Spurs have spent £82m in the last year.

Spuds v Kimbo - it's so on!!!


Fight !!! Fight!!!!

He didn't say that.


"At Tottenham, we have had a clear philosophy regarding buying and selling for years. The idea is signing young players, promising and talented ones, and if important offers for older players are made, studying it to see what is the best for the club."

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11675_3830036,00.html

When you read between the lines....

It's a copy of Arsenal's strategy.

I thought Arsenal's strategy was to let them go on a free?

Glenn Hysén wrote:

DS wrote:Isnt the same as Liverpool making a bid for Barry and telling press about it.

Liverpool haven't gone to the press and said 'I am confident of signing Barry'

nor have we reported Real Madrid for doing the exact same thing to one of our players

No Liverpool went the other way , Barry is a good friend of Gerrard , he should leave to fulfill the CL ambition, Patrick Berger and all that hassle ,just put the required bid if you want him.
And we havent had a public spat with Spurs either.

so when is the Berbatov deal set to go through?

Are Man Chester waiting for funds from the sale of Saha/TRW?

Fergie banks on Berbatov: United seal the deal for £25m Spurs striker



Dimitar Berbatov is expected to agree personal terms and seal his £25million move to Manchester United.
Sportsmail
understands that the Bulgaria striker is due at United's Carrington
training centre after finally being given permission by Tottenham
Hotspur to talk to the Barclays Premier League and European champions.
The
27-year-old will be offered a four-year deal worth in the region of
£80,000-a-week. United hope he will appear on their official pre-season
team photo, scheduled to be taken on Friday.




Making his point: Berbatov will end speculation about his future by signing for United

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If Berbatov agrees terms, his signing will end an 18-month
pursuit by Sir Alex Ferguson, who will be on the verge of fielding his
dream attacking line-up featuring Berbatov, Carlos Tevez, Wayne Rooney
and Cristiano Ronaldo when the latter two regain health and fitness.



Fergie: Gets his man - again


Ironically,
the Premier League board are discussing Tottenham's allegations that
United have behaved improperly in their pursuit of Berbatov. White Hart
Lane chairman Daniel Levy believes United 'tapped up' their player and
made a complaint to the Premier League in mid-July.However, the
League are not expected to find in Tottenham's favour - especially as
the clubs have been negotiating for the last few weeks. As Sportsmail
revealed last month, United's first offer of £20m for Berbatov was
turned down with Spurs originally wanting £32m for the player.
But
it is understood the clubs have now agreed on a fee of around £25m -
money which Spurs will need to spend immediately on a replacement.
At United there will be jubilation if the deal goes through as Berbatov
has been targeted to lead the line since impressing Ferguson in
2006-07.
With Louis Saha so often injured, United have not had a 'through the middle' striker since Ruud van Nistelrooy left.

Still not going to get my hopes up until actually happens. Great [bpotential signing though.

Good signing. Wont lie about it, there's always a risk a player who's done well at a smaller club wont do as well with the big boys but Berbatov is a class act, will score goals, will give United another option.

can't wait to see Rooney, Tevez, Berbatov and Scholes running into one another in the centre circle, clashing heads and landing in a big sexy pile.

No plans to sign a striker who likes to run towards the goal then?

Glenn Hysén wrote:

can't wait to see Rooney, Tevez, Berbatov and Scholes running into one another in the centre circle, clashing heads and landing in a big sexy pile.

No plans to sign a striker who likes to run towards the goal then?

Are you kidding?


Scholes will barely makes it as far up as the centre circle these days.

Glenn Hysén wrote:

can't wait to see Rooney, Tevez, Berbatov and Scholes running into one another in the centre circle, clashing heads and landing in a big sexy pile.

No plans to sign a striker who likes to run towards the goal then?

Did you not watch Ronaldo last seaon?

While the defenders are getting confused by the movement of Rooney, Tevez and Berbatov. Ronaldo will make a run from midfield and bang in the goal.

Batman wrote: While the defenders are getting confused by the movement of Rooney, Tevez and Berbatov. Ronaldo will make a run from midfield and bang in the goal.

So what formation do you envisage to get all 4 of them on the pitch at once - Rooney consigned to the left wing again?

I would suggest that 442 with Nani on the left, Ronnie on the right and the other Rooney and Tevez fighting for the support striker slot alongside Berbs is more likely.

Batman wrote:

While the defenders are getting confused by the movement of Rooney, Tevez and Berbatov. Ronaldo will make a run from midfield and bang in the goal.

Ronaldo

when's his next game for your lot

Roger Hunt wrote:

Batman wrote: While the defenders are getting confused by the movement of Rooney, Tevez and Berbatov. Ronaldo will make a run from midfield and bang in the goal.

So what formation do you envisage to get all 4 of them on the pitch at once - Rooney consigned to the left wing again?

I would suggest that 442 with Nani on the left, Ronnie on the right and the other Rooney and Tevez fighting for the support striker slot alongside Berbs is more likely.

Pretty much.

Tevez can cover for Rooney, Ronaldo and Berbatov. Then Nani, Park or Giggs from the left.

It'll be interesting to see if Fergie plays all 3 strikers whilst Ronaldo is out.

The other formation is the one we used in the CL final and the one we've used most of pre-season.


Hargreaves, Carrick, Scholes, Ronaldo*

................ Rooney, Berbatov


*Nani whilst Ronaldo is out.

Roger Hunt wrote:

Batman wrote: While the defenders are getting confused by the movement of Rooney, Tevez and Berbatov. Ronaldo will make a run from midfield and bang in the goal.

So what formation do you envisage to get all 4 of them on the pitch at once - Rooney consigned to the left wing again?

I would suggest that 442 with Nani on the left, Ronnie on the right and the other Rooney and Tevez fighting for the support striker slot alongside Berbs is more likely.

you mean fighting for the support striker slot along side berbatov the other support striker?

Thanks Parks.

Proving my point that it's difficult to fit those 4 players into a formation together. Basically, if you do get Berbatov, it will prove that Tevez is basically backup for Rooney.

With those players I'd shape up

--------------Hargreaves----------------
----------Carrick---Scholes-------------
----Rooney*------------------Nani*--------
---------------Berbatov--------------------

* - swap Ronaldo for Rooney when fit (and possibly Rooney for Nani)

110% wrote: you mean fighting for the support striker slot along side berbatov the other support striker?

Didn't see Berbs as the support striker in the reknowned Robitar Keanatov partnership. I'm sure he has been signed to lead the line.

If you wanted to play all 3 strikers + Ronaldo:

. . . . . . CM . . . CM

Rooney . . Tevez . . Ronaldo

. . . . . . . Berbatov


This formation would still work because of the work rate of Rooney and Tevez.

But most of the times i think SAF will only play with 2 strikers and that will be the 2 strikers in form, and not Rooney + Berbatov or Tevez.

Batman wrote:If you wanted to play all 3 strikers + Ronaldo:

. . . . . . CM . . . CM

Rooney . . Tevez . . Ronaldo

. . . . . . . Berbatov


This formation would still work because of the work rate of Rooney and Tevez.

But most of the times i think SAF will only play with 2 strikers and that will be the 2 strikers in form, and not Rooney + Berbatov or Tevez.

I think the one time they all go on is when its either an easy home game or a game we are really chasing.

Remember the Wigan game 2 seasons back when we were 1-0 down and he threw on van Nistelrooy with Rooney, Ronaldo and Saha and we won 2-1. It was a great win but there was an element of luck because it was complete end to end for the last 30 minutes.

I disagree. The only way that formation would work is if you put Rooney in the middle as the playmaker. Otherwise you've got loads of running about but your creative players (Berbatov and Rooney) won't get enough of the ball.

Plus we'd have to drop Scholes as well, for Carrick and Hargreaves.

Yeah, basically you're spending £28m on more squad depth

Tevez can be creative and Carrick too, i still think that formation would work.

IMO, it would be bang tight.

Nah, he offers something we really need. He's a physical threat in advanced areas, great in the air and he doesn't drop deep as much as Rooney and Tevez either. Slightly better finisher than both too.

The most important thing for me is we can finally afford to rest Rooney and also wouldn't miss him as much when he's injured unlike previous seasons where no one else in the squad can do what he can.

Are Utd trying to sign Silva in addition to Berbatov?

Don't think so. There's been nothing from us or Valencia, just his agent. Fergie said he's only looking at bringing in a striker as well.