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Liverpool Football Club 08/09
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- Post n°751
Re: Liverpool Football Club 08/09
No way, we can't lose Agger!! Skrtle and Agger together will one day be the best centre back pairing in the wooorrrllldd!!!
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- Post n°752
Re: Liverpool Football Club 08/09
Christmas Tiger wrote:No way, we can't lose Agger!! Skrtle and Agger together will one day be the best centre back pairing in Liverpool!!!
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Re: Liverpool Football Club 08/09
Parks lives wrote:Christmas Tiger wrote:No way, we can't lose Agger!! Skrtle and Agger together will one day be the best centre back pairing in THE WOOORRRLLLLDDD
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- Post n°754
Re: Liverpool Football Club 08/09
Christmasturbation wrote:Reina, Caveleiri - £10m
Arbeloa, Degan - £3m
Aurelio, Dossena £7m
Agger, Hyypia £10m
Skrtel, Carragher £7m
Mascherano Plessis £18m
Alonso Lucas £16m
Gerrard Benayoun £4m
Kuyt Pennant £16m
Babel Riera £21m
Torres Keane £46m
Total £158m or £7.18m a player.
How do other squads of 22 match up?
guestimations and added up quickly so apologies for errors but.....
Cech, Cudicini £7m
Ferreira, Bosingwa £30m
Cole, Bridge £12m
Terry, Ivanović £9m
Carvalho, Alex £20m
Essien, Belletti £27m
Lampard, Ballack £11m
Mikel, Mineiro, £16m
Cole, Kalou £10m
Deco, Malouda £13m
Drogba, Anelka £40m
Total £184m or £8.36m a player
VDS, Foster £3m
Neville, Rafael
Evra, O'Shea £7m
Ferdinand, Brown £30m
Vidic, Evans £7m
Carrick, Hargreaves £36m
Anderson, Scholes £18m
Nani, Park £22m
Ronaldo, Giggs £14m
Berbatov, Manucho £35m
Rooney, Tevez £60m
Total £232m or £10.5m a player
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- Post n°755
Re: Liverpool Football Club 08/09
Evra was 5 m , where did you get 7 m from.
Nani had a release clause of 17 m and Park 3.5-4 m why you think we over paid Nani's release clause.
Ronaldo was 7.7 rising to 12 m.
We havent bought Tevez so why the fees.
Rooney was 27 max I think and Berbatov 30.4 and why you think we paid 4 m for Manucho from a club you never even heard of.
At least try to be fair.
Nani had a release clause of 17 m and Park 3.5-4 m why you think we over paid Nani's release clause.
Ronaldo was 7.7 rising to 12 m.
We havent bought Tevez so why the fees.
Rooney was 27 max I think and Berbatov 30.4 and why you think we paid 4 m for Manucho from a club you never even heard of.
At least try to be fair.
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- Post n°756
Re: Liverpool Football Club 08/09
I have tried to be fair, and I said they were guestimates. You'll notice in the inrterest of fairness I rounded up most of Liverpool's fees I thought Nani was £17m and Park was £5m. I still do. Evra and Ronaldo I'll amend. Manucho deal was €7m-£7m I'm lead to believe. Media reported Rooney deal to be £31m.
So I'll knock off £2m for Ronaldo and £1.5m for Evra,
so
Total £228.5m or £10.38m a player
So I'll knock off £2m for Ronaldo and £1.5m for Evra,
so
Total £228.5m or £10.38m a player
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- Post n°757
Re: Liverpool Football Club 08/09
Manucho is less then a million , add 1.2 m for Rafael.
Do you expect us to pay 7 m Euro or pound for Manucho to an Angolan club.
Tevez fees doesnt count because he is on loan or his loan fees count which I dont really remember.
Do you expect us to pay 7 m Euro or pound for Manucho to an Angolan club.
Tevez fees doesnt count because he is on loan or his loan fees count which I dont really remember.
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- Post n°758
Re: Liverpool Football Club 08/09
His loan fee was £10 million for two seasons.
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- Post n°759
Re: Liverpool Football Club 08/09
This doesnt account for failed transfers of three clubs though , Rafa has spend almost as much as Ferguson since he came maybe a bit less maybe a bit more.
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- Post n°760
Re: Liverpool Football Club 08/09
If Tevez loan fees counts then should Mascherano he was on loan before he was bought.
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- Post n°761
Re: Liverpool Football Club 08/09
DS wrote:If Tevez loan fees counts then should Mascherano he was on loan before he was bought.
Tevez loan fee is deductable from his final tranfer fee of £30m. The same was for Mascherano, whose loan fee was nowhere near that of Tevez.
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- Post n°762
Re: Liverpool Football Club 08/09
DS wrote:This doesnt account for failed transfers of three clubs though , Rafa has spend almost as much as Ferguson since he came maybe a bit less maybe a bit more.
what's your point and how is it relevant? I'm talking about how much the squad cost to assemble, both managers have failed in the transfer market, same with Chelsea I don't include their failures, just the cost of putting the squads together. Fergle already had a title winning squad when Rafa arrived at Liverpool. If you have a mansion and spend £100,000 improving it and I have a normal house and spend £100,000 improving it of course yours is going to be better.
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- Post n°763
Re: Liverpool Football Club 08/09
Arsenal is a tricky one as I have no idea how much their players cost, but I'm guessing the majority were less that £7m
guestimates, feel free to correct me, if with less agression than DS that would be fine.
Alumunia, Fabianski £3m
Sagna, Eboue £8m
Clichy, Silvestre £1m
Toure, Djourou £1m
Gallas, Song £1m
Nasri, Rosicky £20m
Fabregas, Ramsey £6m
Denilson, Diaby £5m
Walcott, Vela £12m
Van Persie, Eduardo £10m
Adebeyour, Bendtner £5m
Total £72m or £3.27m per player
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guestimates, feel free to correct me, if with less agression than DS that would be fine.
Alumunia, Fabianski £3m
Sagna, Eboue £8m
Clichy, Silvestre £1m
Toure, Djourou £1m
Gallas, Song £1m
Nasri, Rosicky £20m
Fabregas, Ramsey £6m
Denilson, Diaby £5m
Walcott, Vela £12m
Van Persie, Eduardo £10m
Adebeyour, Bendtner £5m
Total £72m or £3.27m per player
Sharabi Gunda
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- Post n°764
Re: Liverpool Football Club 08/09
Seems fair. Add £4m per player à la Saints and you should be OK.
You fuckers all spend ridiculous amounts. But United fans getting on their high horse after spending £30m each on Veron, Ferdinand, Rooney, possibly Tevez, Berbatov, without mentioning the fees for the likes of van Nistelrooy, Carrick, Hargreaves, Nani, Anderson...
You fuckers all spend ridiculous amounts. But United fans getting on their high horse after spending £30m each on Veron, Ferdinand, Rooney, possibly Tevez, Berbatov, without mentioning the fees for the likes of van Nistelrooy, Carrick, Hargreaves, Nani, Anderson...
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- Post n°765
Re: Liverpool Football Club 08/09
Arsenal's squad doesn't look as strong as the others, but if Wenger spent £90m on a Ferdinand, an Essien and a Torres it would be, and it'd still have cost less than the others.
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- Post n°766
Re: Liverpool Football Club 08/09
Sppppppppppppppppuuuuuuuuuuuuuurs
Gomes, Sanchez £8m
Hutton, Gunter £12m
Bale, Gilberto £12m
King, Dawson £4m
Woodcock, Corluka £15m
Zokora, Huddlestone £10m
Jenas, Boateng £12m
Bentley, Lennon, £16m
Modric, dos Santos £24m
Pavlachencko, Bent £30m
Total £143m or £6.5m per player
Gomes, Sanchez £8m
Hutton, Gunter £12m
Bale, Gilberto £12m
King, Dawson £4m
Woodcock, Corluka £15m
Zokora, Huddlestone £10m
Jenas, Boateng £12m
Bentley, Lennon, £16m
Modric, dos Santos £24m
Pavlachencko, Bent £30m
Total £143m or £6.5m per player
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- Post n°767
Re: Liverpool Football Club 08/09
Villa
Friedel, Guzan £3m
Young, Cuellar £14m
Shorey, Bouma £7m
Laursen, Knight £6m
Davies, Reo Coker £18m
Barry, Osbourne £2m
Petrov, Gardner £7m
Young, Milner £16m
Sidwell, Salifou £5m
Agbonlahor, Harewood £4m
Carew, Delfouneso £6m
total £87m or £4m per player
Friedel, Guzan £3m
Young, Cuellar £14m
Shorey, Bouma £7m
Laursen, Knight £6m
Davies, Reo Coker £18m
Barry, Osbourne £2m
Petrov, Gardner £7m
Young, Milner £16m
Sidwell, Salifou £5m
Agbonlahor, Harewood £4m
Carew, Delfouneso £6m
total £87m or £4m per player
Last edited by Christ Hysén on Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:49 pm; edited 1 time in total
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- Post n°768
Re: Liverpool Football Club 08/09
you missed Barry and put Sidwell twice, so you could probably cut 5m (Barry being free, or close to)..but otherwise I shan't argue too much.
The other problem with just comparing money spent is the temporal one...10m now buys less than 10m five years ago (esp English players).
The other problem with just comparing money spent is the temporal one...10m now buys less than 10m five years ago (esp English players).
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- Post n°769
Re: Liverpool Football Club 08/09
I think Barry ended up costing Villa because he played for England. I've valued him at £2m
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- Post n°770
Re: Liverpool Football Club 08/09
Hull City today...
Despite their unexpected good season, this is a game we should win, but we said that about West Ham, Fulham and Stoke.
I think the confidence will be high though at the moment, 6 games in our last two games (boring), despite key players not being involved. Hull did score 3 at Old Trafford though so they can cause problems.
I'd go for:
-----------------------------------Reina-----------------------------------
-----Arbeloa------------Carra---------Agger-----------Dossena-------
-------------------------Masch---------Alonso---------------------------
-----Kuyt-------------------------Gerrard--------------Riera-----------
-----------------------------------Keane---------------------------------
Despite their unexpected good season, this is a game we should win, but we said that about West Ham, Fulham and Stoke.
I think the confidence will be high though at the moment, 6 games in our last two games (boring), despite key players not being involved. Hull did score 3 at Old Trafford though so they can cause problems.
I'd go for:
-----------------------------------Reina-----------------------------------
-----Arbeloa------------Carra---------Agger-----------Dossena-------
-------------------------Masch---------Alonso---------------------------
-----Kuyt-------------------------Gerrard--------------Riera-----------
-----------------------------------Keane---------------------------------
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- Post n°771
Re: Liverpool Football Club 08/09
I expect nothing less than a Liverp0-0l performance
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- Post n°772
Re: Liverpool Football Club 08/09
Luis wrote:Hull City today...
Despite their unexpected good season, this is a game we should win, but we said that about West Ham, Fulham and Stoke.
I think the confidence will be high though at the moment, 6 games in our last two games (boring), despite key players not being involved. Hull did score 3 at Old Trafford though so they can cause problems.
I'd go for:
-----------------------------------Reina-----------------------------------
-----Arbeloa------------Carra---------Agger-----------Dossena-------
-------------------------Masch---------Alonso---------------------------
-----Kuyt-------------------------Gerrard--------------Riera-----------
-----------------------------------Keane---------------------------------
The main reason we struggle against park the bus teams is because kuyt, keane and riera have no pace and only riera has the skill to actually beat a man so I will be disappointed if rafa lines up like this
Mascha does not deserve to be in the team on current form and certainly in a match like this, although saying that I don't think Hull will park the bus as purely as Fulham, West Ham, Stoke and Man U have done at Anfield this season
Babel deserves another go but I fear rafa will be impressed by Yossi finally taking one of his million chances against Blackburn
I can't really be arsed watching Keane running around moaning at everyone else because he is shit all afternoon but am just preparing myself for the dynamic Kuyt and Keane partnership.
I see Nemeth is finally back and scoring for the reserves. Let's just hope he gets a chance soon and more importantly takes it. If Ngog is getting plenty of time then anyone has hope
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- Post n°773
Re: Liverpool Football Club 08/09
Thought Keane's second half display against PSV deserves a starting place, Ngog doesn't know how to control a football and Babel is too lazy to start a game.
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- Post n°774
Re: Liverpool Football Club 08/09
I'd go with you Luis.
Babel has done nothing to warrent a starting berth.. besides he is our only real impact player we can bring from the bench.
Masch has to play, sure hes out of sorts... even more reason to keep him playing so he can play his way into some kind of form, what would putting him on the bench actually do for his confidence?
Alonso, Gerrard and Kuyt should have plenty of running in them after their midweek rest.
I predict a 2-0 riot
Babel has done nothing to warrent a starting berth.. besides he is our only real impact player we can bring from the bench.
Masch has to play, sure hes out of sorts... even more reason to keep him playing so he can play his way into some kind of form, what would putting him on the bench actually do for his confidence?
Alonso, Gerrard and Kuyt should have plenty of running in them after their midweek rest.
I predict a 2-0 riot
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- Post n°775
Re: Liverpool Football Club 08/09
I predict a 0-0. One point gained than 2 lost IMO
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- Post n°776
Re: Liverpool Football Club 08/09
Well he has baffled us all and picked a shit team again
....................Reina
Arbeloa....Carra...Hyypia...Dossena
..............Alonso...Mascha
.....Yossi.....Gerrard.......Riera
....................Kuyt
Agger
....................Reina
Arbeloa....Carra...Hyypia...Dossena
..............Alonso...Mascha
.....Yossi.....Gerrard.......Riera
....................Kuyt
Agger
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- Post n°777
Re: Liverpool Football Club 08/09
plan is to contain them for 60 minutes then bring on Babel and Keane
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- Post n°778
Re: Liverpool Football Club 08/09
Is Agger injured?
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- Post n°779
Re: Liverpool Football Club 08/09
Glenjamin Hysénus wrote:plan is to contain them for 60 minutes then bring on Ngooog and El Zhaaaar
Seriously though with Skrtel about to return I am beginning to worry that we may lose Agger to madrid or milan as soon as a decent bid comes in.
Aw well, we get another 90 minutes of kuyt as a lone striker. Super
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- Post n°780
Re: Liverpool Football Club 08/09
Subs: Cavalieri, Agger, Keane, Babel, Lucas, Ngog, El Zhar
You could say that Agger is fourth choice in the league.
As COTR said, it looks like it is cheerio for him.
You could say that Agger is fourth choice in the league.
As COTR said, it looks like it is cheerio for him.
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