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Chelsea Vs Liverpool
Chocolate Thunder- Number of posts : 15804
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- Post n°61
Re: Chelsea Vs Liverpool
BURN JLS CONTE!!!
S4P- Number of posts : 14358
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- Post n°62
Re: Chelsea Vs Liverpool
Don't you think I am burning enough this evening?
Chocolate Thunder- Number of posts : 15804
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- Post n°63
Re: Chelsea Vs Liverpool
S4P - 13 wrote:Don't you think I am burning enough this evening?
Aw shucks I'll let you off this tonight.. mainly cause I'm off to the pub in a bit
Football Genius- Number of posts : 7743
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- Post n°64
Re: Chelsea Vs Liverpool
S4P - 13 wrote:Don't you think I am burning enough this evening?
To be fair S4P, with your injuries... Essien, Ballack, Cole, Drogba... etc probably played a fair part in the result today, its hardly the end of an era for Chelsea, you've been pretty lucky with injuries over the past few seasons up until now.... no matter how strong the depth of any squad, you miss players that can change games if they're out.... your bench proved that today.
Chocolate Thunder- Number of posts : 15804
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- Post n°65
Re: Chelsea Vs Liverpool
Liverpool end Chelsea's four-year run at Stamford Bridge and top the Premier League
For Chelsea, the clocks went back more than an hour, rewinding four years to a time when they last endured the ignominy of defeat at home. For Liverpool, the clocks went back even further, reviving memories of the 1989-1990 season that climaxed in their last title.
This was only one small step in a marathon season, but it felt like a giant stride. Liverpool will believe in their Premier League mission, in their ability to find fruit on awkward soil. Liverpool will know they can seize an early lead, as through the outstanding Xabi Alonso here, and possess the strength of mind and body to resist the opposition.
All sorts of numbers were mentioned here from the 86 games that Chelsea had been unbeaten in their King’s Road fortress, dating back to an Arsenal victory on February 21 2004, to the 48 hours that had elapsed since Luiz Felipe Scolari suggested his team could match Arsenal’s Invincibles and go through the season undefeated.
Names mattered more than numbers. This was a momentous victory for Liverpool carved from the defiance of Jamie Carragher and Daniel Agger in thwarting Chelsea’s attackers, to the relentless blocking and tackling of Javier Mascherano and Alonso in midfield and on to the dynamism of Steven Gerrard and Albert Riera in taking the game to Scolari’s defence.
Liverpool were all heart, lungs and flying feet but the key factor was the mind of Benitez. The Spaniard’s tactics were inspired, his game-plan squeezing the life out of Chelsea’s feared spheres of influence. Liverpool doubled up on Chelsea’s usually buccaneering full-backs. Riera, a classy winger with work-rate, and Fabio Aurelio kept ushering Jose Bosingwa down cul de sacs. Over on the right, Dirk Kuyt and Alvaro Arbeloa stymied Ashley Cole.
In the centre, Liverpool’s 4-2-3-1 formation allowed Gerrard licence to break forward in support of Robbie Keane, knowing that Alonso and Mascherano were on determined sentry duty. Gerrard was also perfectly placed to disrupt Chelsea’s supply convoys masterminded by John Obi Mikel.
Missing Didier Drogba and Joe Cole, Chelsea struggled on the high and low road towards Pepe Reina’s area. Robinho’s hat-trick for Manchester City will have sent rueful thoughts spinning through Chelsea minds. But Liverpool could also mention absent friends, notably Fernando Torres.
For all the understandable focus on Harry Redknapp, this was comfortably the game of the day, of the season even. For the hundreds of millions tuning in worldwide, Chelsea and Liverpool laid on a spectacle not persistently high on technical expression but always compelling.
The fixture has rarely lacked edge. On the terraces, familiar taunts were traded. Chelsea fans mused loudly that their guests had no jobs, prompting Liverpool supporters to retort that their hosts had no European Cups. The competitive fray was swiftly seen on the field, Alonso flying into Frank Lampard with a force that spoke of past meetings as well as present collisions.
Despite a surface made treacherous by the rain, touches of class arose, a reverse pass from Lampard here, a clever flick from Gerrard there. When Liverpool’s captain won a throw-in on the right after 10 minutes, the stage was set for the game’s decisive moment.
When Arbeloa launched the ball into the box, John Terry was most alive to the danger, meeting the throw with a stretching header that clipped Bosingwa and fell invitingly to Alonso, lurking unmarked and dangerous 20 yards out. The Spaniard caught the ball well enough but its journey past Petr Cech required a deviation. Catching Bosingwa en route, Alonso’s shot eluded the wrong-footed Cech.
As Liverpool fans celebrated, as their midfield dominated, Chelsea sought crumbs of comfort such as when Mikel pushed Gerrard into the crowd. Revenge was swift, the Englishman nutmegging the Nigerian. Liverpool would not be bullied, particularly not Riera, blessed with a wonderful left foot and a hunger for life amidst the flying studs.
If Bosingwa suffers a recurring nightmare over the next month it will involve a deft Spaniard ghosting past him. Riera utterly bemused Bosingwa at one point, racing on and shooting just wide. Liverpool remained in ascendancy, Gerrard letting fly with a left-footed strike that Cech did brilliantly to push over. Riera then went round Bosingwa again. Once more, and he would have got to keep him.
Chelsea were stunned, urgently needing leadership. The captain, John Terry, began to bark orders, particularly at Florent Malouda. The usual creative forces, Deco and Lampard, started to show. Lampard briefly escaped the large shadow cast by Gerrard to unleash one of his long-range specials, deflected wide. Then came Deco, exploiting a lapse in control by Gerrard, storming forward but also firing off-target.
With Deco and Lampard more involved, Chelsea finished the first half strongly, knocking long and loud on Liverpool’s back-door but Carragher and Agger stood firm. Some of Liverpool’s tackling was immense, timed to perfection, so it was hugely frustrating when a magnificent challenge by Gerrard on Bosingwa drew a ludicrous caution from Webb.
England’s top referee, the only official deemed good enough for consideration for the 2010 World Cup, misread Gerrard’s intent and was deceived by Bosingwa’s histrionics. The full-back rolled around, knowing that Gerrard, having won the ball fairly, was free to race into untended space. Football must be never be allowed to descend into rollerball, but similarly it must never become non-contact. It’s not ballet.
Chelsea lacked invention, and the closest they came to an equaliser was when Kuyt’s penalty-box push on Ashley Cole went unpunished by Webb. Cole’s habit of moaning again hardly endeared himself to the officials. Occasionally booed by Liverpool fans, Cole also suffered the indignity of his huge poster being defaced outside the Bridge club shop.
Liverpool almost killed off Chelsea midway through the half. When Juliano Belletti kicked Riera in the face, Chelsea’s six-man wall was left redundant as Alonso’s free-kick sped past and thudded into the post with Cech stationary.
When Cole hooked a shot wide, smiles began taking shape on Liverpool faces. At the final whistle, Sammy Lee, that symbol of passion for the red cause, punched the air, Liverpool’s No 2 disappearing under a rare bear-hug from Benitez. Unlike the clocks, Liverpool know they have to keep going forward, keeping their focus if they are to claim the championship again.
For Chelsea, the clocks went back more than an hour, rewinding four years to a time when they last endured the ignominy of defeat at home. For Liverpool, the clocks went back even further, reviving memories of the 1989-1990 season that climaxed in their last title.
This was only one small step in a marathon season, but it felt like a giant stride. Liverpool will believe in their Premier League mission, in their ability to find fruit on awkward soil. Liverpool will know they can seize an early lead, as through the outstanding Xabi Alonso here, and possess the strength of mind and body to resist the opposition.
All sorts of numbers were mentioned here from the 86 games that Chelsea had been unbeaten in their King’s Road fortress, dating back to an Arsenal victory on February 21 2004, to the 48 hours that had elapsed since Luiz Felipe Scolari suggested his team could match Arsenal’s Invincibles and go through the season undefeated.
Names mattered more than numbers. This was a momentous victory for Liverpool carved from the defiance of Jamie Carragher and Daniel Agger in thwarting Chelsea’s attackers, to the relentless blocking and tackling of Javier Mascherano and Alonso in midfield and on to the dynamism of Steven Gerrard and Albert Riera in taking the game to Scolari’s defence.
Liverpool were all heart, lungs and flying feet but the key factor was the mind of Benitez. The Spaniard’s tactics were inspired, his game-plan squeezing the life out of Chelsea’s feared spheres of influence. Liverpool doubled up on Chelsea’s usually buccaneering full-backs. Riera, a classy winger with work-rate, and Fabio Aurelio kept ushering Jose Bosingwa down cul de sacs. Over on the right, Dirk Kuyt and Alvaro Arbeloa stymied Ashley Cole.
In the centre, Liverpool’s 4-2-3-1 formation allowed Gerrard licence to break forward in support of Robbie Keane, knowing that Alonso and Mascherano were on determined sentry duty. Gerrard was also perfectly placed to disrupt Chelsea’s supply convoys masterminded by John Obi Mikel.
Missing Didier Drogba and Joe Cole, Chelsea struggled on the high and low road towards Pepe Reina’s area. Robinho’s hat-trick for Manchester City will have sent rueful thoughts spinning through Chelsea minds. But Liverpool could also mention absent friends, notably Fernando Torres.
For all the understandable focus on Harry Redknapp, this was comfortably the game of the day, of the season even. For the hundreds of millions tuning in worldwide, Chelsea and Liverpool laid on a spectacle not persistently high on technical expression but always compelling.
The fixture has rarely lacked edge. On the terraces, familiar taunts were traded. Chelsea fans mused loudly that their guests had no jobs, prompting Liverpool supporters to retort that their hosts had no European Cups. The competitive fray was swiftly seen on the field, Alonso flying into Frank Lampard with a force that spoke of past meetings as well as present collisions.
Despite a surface made treacherous by the rain, touches of class arose, a reverse pass from Lampard here, a clever flick from Gerrard there. When Liverpool’s captain won a throw-in on the right after 10 minutes, the stage was set for the game’s decisive moment.
When Arbeloa launched the ball into the box, John Terry was most alive to the danger, meeting the throw with a stretching header that clipped Bosingwa and fell invitingly to Alonso, lurking unmarked and dangerous 20 yards out. The Spaniard caught the ball well enough but its journey past Petr Cech required a deviation. Catching Bosingwa en route, Alonso’s shot eluded the wrong-footed Cech.
As Liverpool fans celebrated, as their midfield dominated, Chelsea sought crumbs of comfort such as when Mikel pushed Gerrard into the crowd. Revenge was swift, the Englishman nutmegging the Nigerian. Liverpool would not be bullied, particularly not Riera, blessed with a wonderful left foot and a hunger for life amidst the flying studs.
If Bosingwa suffers a recurring nightmare over the next month it will involve a deft Spaniard ghosting past him. Riera utterly bemused Bosingwa at one point, racing on and shooting just wide. Liverpool remained in ascendancy, Gerrard letting fly with a left-footed strike that Cech did brilliantly to push over. Riera then went round Bosingwa again. Once more, and he would have got to keep him.
Chelsea were stunned, urgently needing leadership. The captain, John Terry, began to bark orders, particularly at Florent Malouda. The usual creative forces, Deco and Lampard, started to show. Lampard briefly escaped the large shadow cast by Gerrard to unleash one of his long-range specials, deflected wide. Then came Deco, exploiting a lapse in control by Gerrard, storming forward but also firing off-target.
With Deco and Lampard more involved, Chelsea finished the first half strongly, knocking long and loud on Liverpool’s back-door but Carragher and Agger stood firm. Some of Liverpool’s tackling was immense, timed to perfection, so it was hugely frustrating when a magnificent challenge by Gerrard on Bosingwa drew a ludicrous caution from Webb.
England’s top referee, the only official deemed good enough for consideration for the 2010 World Cup, misread Gerrard’s intent and was deceived by Bosingwa’s histrionics. The full-back rolled around, knowing that Gerrard, having won the ball fairly, was free to race into untended space. Football must be never be allowed to descend into rollerball, but similarly it must never become non-contact. It’s not ballet.
Chelsea lacked invention, and the closest they came to an equaliser was when Kuyt’s penalty-box push on Ashley Cole went unpunished by Webb. Cole’s habit of moaning again hardly endeared himself to the officials. Occasionally booed by Liverpool fans, Cole also suffered the indignity of his huge poster being defaced outside the Bridge club shop.
Liverpool almost killed off Chelsea midway through the half. When Juliano Belletti kicked Riera in the face, Chelsea’s six-man wall was left redundant as Alonso’s free-kick sped past and thudded into the post with Cech stationary.
When Cole hooked a shot wide, smiles began taking shape on Liverpool faces. At the final whistle, Sammy Lee, that symbol of passion for the red cause, punched the air, Liverpool’s No 2 disappearing under a rare bear-hug from Benitez. Unlike the clocks, Liverpool know they have to keep going forward, keeping their focus if they are to claim the championship again.
Chocolate Thunder- Number of posts : 15804
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- Post n°66
Re: Chelsea Vs Liverpool
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S4P- Number of posts : 14358
Age : 44
Supports : Chelsea
Registration date : 2007-03-24
- Post n°67
Re: Chelsea Vs Liverpool
Football Genius wrote:S4P - 13 wrote:Don't you think I am burning enough this evening?
To be fair S4P, with your injuries... Essien, Ballack, Cole, Drogba... etc probably played a fair part in the result today, its hardly the end of an era for Chelsea, you've been pretty lucky with injuries over the past few seasons up until now.... no matter how strong the depth of any squad, you miss players that can change games if they're out.... your bench proved that today.
Well true, but I was saying the week before about how well we're playing without these players, so I don't think it's possible for me to use injuries as an excuse when we finally lose at home. As I said in the Chelsea thread, Joe Cole and Drogba were massive losses because they're players who are always likely to create chances, but you guys were missing Torres too.
DS- Number of posts : 12952
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- Post n°68
Re: Chelsea Vs Liverpool
Drogba is getting injured alot probably time to move on ? Karim Benzema ?
S4P- Number of posts : 14358
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- Post n°69
Re: Chelsea Vs Liverpool
I'm hoping for Zaki but who knows?
Chocolate Thunder- Number of posts : 15804
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- Post n°70
Re: Chelsea Vs Liverpool
S4P - 13 wrote:I'm hoping for Zaki but who knows?
Looks like a straight fight with Man City for whoever be it Liverpool or Chelsea get involved, if you believe reports.
Benzema would cost a bomb.
Who else could you see/want signed?
S4P- Number of posts : 14358
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- Post n°71
Re: Chelsea Vs Liverpool
Don't think there's a real urgency to sign anyone else. A winger might be nice but who's available right now? Can't think of any names off the top of my head who we could realistically sign in January.
So the only place we need to strengthen is up front imo. We need a 20 goal a season striker.
So the only place we need to strengthen is up front imo. We need a 20 goal a season striker.
DS- Number of posts : 12952
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- Post n°72
Re: Chelsea Vs Liverpool
Sergio Aguero in the summer as AM doesnt look like doing anything.
Chocolate Thunder- Number of posts : 15804
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- Post n°73
Re: Chelsea Vs Liverpool
DS wrote:Sergio Aguero in the summer as AM doesnt look like doing anything.
Shut up DS
DS- Number of posts : 12952
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Re: Chelsea Vs Liverpool
Well you wont be getting him neither are us unless we decide not to buy Tevez or Arsenal so Chelsea or City and I want him in the prem.
Pierre Littbarski- Number of posts : 12424
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- Post n°75
Re: Chelsea Vs Liverpool
You seriously think Zaki for Chelsea ?!?!?!
He's only been over here 10 mins and he's been playing up front alongside another muscular striker - why would anyone think he could be a lone striker for Chelsea.
He's only been over here 10 mins and he's been playing up front alongside another muscular striker - why would anyone think he could be a lone striker for Chelsea.
DS- Number of posts : 12952
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- Post n°76
Re: Chelsea Vs Liverpool
Zaki despite being a good physical player seems more a Rooney type of player then a Drogba , Pierre is right on this but he does wins alot of aerial battles and holds the line well but it will be different playing for Chelsea where you have to bring your team mates through your holding timing the runs meaning you are not the sole performer of the show you just play a part.
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Re: Chelsea Vs Liverpool
S4P - 13 wrote:Don't think there's a real urgency to sign anyone else. A winger might be nice but who's available right now? Can't think of any names off the top of my head who we could realistically sign in January.
So the only place we need to strengthen is up front imo. We need a 20 goal a season striker.
think you need a new keeper aswell.
Chocolate Thunder- Number of posts : 15804
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- Post n°78
Re: Chelsea Vs Liverpool
DS wrote:Well you wont be getting him neither are us unless we decide not to buy Tevez or Arsenal so Chelsea or City and I want him in the prem.
Really DS
Never said we will sign him have I.
Well I have but not here but those times I followed my comments about us signing Kun usually followed by a.. or a
If DIC comes in and Rafa is interested things could change on the Kun front though.
Super Progress- Number of posts : 15429
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- Post n°79
Re: Chelsea Vs Liverpool
Atletico would prob want a huge amount for him. the reason that Torres "only" cost 25 mil was that he hadnt really played that well for Atletico or impressed that much. Aguero on the other hand...Ade Alves wrote:DS wrote:Well you wont be getting him neither are us unless we decide not to buy Tevez or Arsenal so Chelsea or City and I want him in the prem.
Really DS
Never said we will sign him have I.
Well I have but not here but those times I followed my comments about us signing Kun usually followed by a.. or a
If DIC comes in and Rafa is interested things could change on the Kun front though.
currently i cant see any other club then Chelsea being able to get him because we would never join Real Madrid. perhaps if Man City got in the top 4 in the future. This is also assuming that Berlusconi truly doesnt care about Milan anymore because he has the funds.
S4P- Number of posts : 14358
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- Post n°80
Re: Chelsea Vs Liverpool
BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:S4P - 13 wrote:Don't think there's a real urgency to sign anyone else. A winger might be nice but who's available right now? Can't think of any names off the top of my head who we could realistically sign in January.
So the only place we need to strengthen is up front imo. We need a 20 goal a season striker.
think you need a new keeper aswell.
Why? What's wrong with Cudicini?
Football Genius- Number of posts : 7743
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- Post n°81
Re: Chelsea Vs Liverpool
S4P - 13 wrote:BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:S4P - 13 wrote:Don't think there's a real urgency to sign anyone else. A winger might be nice but who's available right now? Can't think of any names off the top of my head who we could realistically sign in January.
So the only place we need to strengthen is up front imo. We need a 20 goal a season striker.
think you need a new keeper aswell.
Why? What's wrong with Cudicini?
Come on this is BoBo hilarously stupid Vieri... you should know by now S4P hes talking out of his backside.
Chocolate Thunder- Number of posts : 15804
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- Post n°82
Re: Chelsea Vs Liverpool
I agree with you're points Super Madrid.
Personally, if he doesn't join Liverpool I couldn't bare to see him at any other EPL club. Obviously it would be great for the EPL as a whole to see him ply his trade here but like Dani Alves being on the verge of joining Chelsea... think Kun joining any EPL besides our would tip me over the edge. Not really though
Liverpool or Milan is where I hope he eventually ends up. Obviously Milan being far more realistic at present.
Personally, if he doesn't join Liverpool I couldn't bare to see him at any other EPL club. Obviously it would be great for the EPL as a whole to see him ply his trade here but like Dani Alves being on the verge of joining Chelsea... think Kun joining any EPL besides our would tip me over the edge. Not really though
Liverpool or Milan is where I hope he eventually ends up. Obviously Milan being far more realistic at present.
S4P- Number of posts : 14358
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- Post n°83
Re: Chelsea Vs Liverpool
Football Genius wrote:S4P - 13 wrote:BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:S4P - 13 wrote:Don't think there's a real urgency to sign anyone else. A winger might be nice but who's available right now? Can't think of any names off the top of my head who we could realistically sign in January.
So the only place we need to strengthen is up front imo. We need a 20 goal a season striker.
think you need a new keeper aswell.
Why? What's wrong with Cudicini?
Come on this is BoBo hilarously stupid Vieri... you should know by now S4P hes talking out of his backside.
I know he is and I know who he is referring to.
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