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    Juve want Kuyt for £28million

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    Post by fcb Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:01 pm

    http://football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_4832637,00.html

    To the journalists at Corriere Dello Sport:

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    Post by christmasborocooper Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:05 pm

    Ridiculous. They can have Arca for £10m too if they want.
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    Post by Romford Pele Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:09 pm

    Take Eboue while your at it Ale
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    Post by Six Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:13 pm

    Can't even begin to think what went through their minds when writing that.. Starting from 'Ranieri likes the same players as Benitez' and ending up at '£28m for Kuyt'!
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:29 pm

    Kuyt does strike me as a potential Juve player in truth, but they forgot the decimal point in between the "two" & the "eight"
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    Post by Chocolate Thunder Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:43 pm

    Laugh

    I'd gladly take £8M(and Giovinco or Chiellini Whistle ).

    Could finally get Valencia(awaits EMP reply) or my guy, Whackeen cheers

    Rafa would never sell him though, as Kuyt would end their affair.
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    Post by Aristoskank Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:58 pm

    This is almost as ridiculous as Jermaine Pennant playing for Real Madrid. Almost. Kuyt is actually a halfway decent player.
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    Post by Chocolate Thunder Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:02 pm

    President Darkie wrote:This is almost as ridiculous as Jermaine Pennant playing for Real Madrid and Milan. Almost. Kuyt is actually a halfway decent player.

    pale

    The Daily Post said £10m this morning.
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:05 pm

    Someone's clearly having a joke with the Pennant thing.

    The Kuyt rumour could have some reality to it although the price is currently ridiculously off mark. I'd guess somewhere around £13m would be more accurate.
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    Post by Khadrim Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:08 pm

    I don't get it, the Roy Keane Syndrome is spreading. Just why are people willing to pay enormous sums for garbage?
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    Post by Football Genius Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:58 pm

    I couldn't see Benitez selling Kuyt unless a ridiculous bid such as the above came in for him as he would need relatively large resources to replace him, the rationale as to why Benitez uses Kuyt to the dismay of some reds and rates him so highly can be found using Rinus Michels playmaking approach which i feel Liverpool's pattern of play reflects quite astonishingly... one of key features of this approach, is that defending from the front is essential, and if you can win the ball higher up the pitch it you can look to create wave after wave of attack, basically as Benitez often describes as 'controlling' the game and also reduces the threat from the one weakness of this system that the defensive line cannot be exposed having pushed up.

    Good read for anybody who'd like to understand this further "Rinus Michels - team building road to success"
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    Post by fcb Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:09 pm

    Really? scratch

    It doesn't look like that in practice at all...Liverpool's back 4 (with the DMs in front) is often playing very deep, and "wave after wave of attack" is something you don't see often. What you have described down to a T is how Rijkaard's Barcelona played.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:11 pm

    if Robinho and Berbatov are worth £31m then Kuyt is worth at least £28m I'd expect them to come back with an improved offer closer to £31m then we'll talk.

    Are we really publishing rumours from football365?

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    Post by Jaime Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:12 pm

    kas wrote:Really? scratch

    It doesn't look like that in practice at all...Liverpool's back 4 (with the DMs in front) is often playing very deep, and "wave after wave of attack" is something you don't see often. What you have described down to a T is how Rijkaard's Barcelona played from 2004-06.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:14 pm

    kas wrote:Really? scratch

    It doesn't look like that in practice at all...Liverpool's back 4 (with the DMs in front) is often playing very deep, and "wave after wave of attack" is something you don't see often. What you have described down to a T is how Rijkaard's Barcelona played.

    Yes scratch

    it doesn't work so well with Hyppia in central defence and Carragher at right back, and in the knockout stages of the champions league it's also subject to change, but generally the tactic is to press high up the pitch and let Kuyt chase the ball.
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    Post by Six Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:14 pm

    kas wrote:Really? scratch

    It doesn't look like that in practice at all...Liverpool's back 4 (with the DMs in front) is often playing very deep, and "wave after wave of attack" is something you don't see often. What you have described down to a T is how Rijkaard's Barcelona played.

    This season the fullbacks are generally way beyond the halfway line. I think it sounds fairly accurate personally.
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    Post by Football Genius Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:15 pm

    kas wrote:Really? scratch

    It doesn't look like that in practice at all...Liverpool's back 4 (with the DMs in front) is often playing very deep, and "wave after wave of attack" is something you don't see often. What you have described down to a T is how Rijkaard's Barcelona played.

    Doesn't it?

    We play with holding midfielders who pass the ball out wide quickly to 'circulate' the ball, we often play a high line in posession... (try watching our games)... we rotate the wingers most often because in this system they work the hardest (emphasising Kuyt importance here), our players can interchange, Torres down channel, Kuyt central, Gerrard right or central (hence the total football approach) just because its not all flicks, and pretty football does not mean the approach is not being followed.

    Another observation of this approach, is how the central midfielders play very close to the defensive line out of possession, again another feature of our play, another feature would be a defender moving into midfield with possession (Agger) or the opposite approach (same principle flooding midfield) Gerrard falling back..

    I'm quite astonished how you don't recognise this?
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:16 pm

    Liverpool do play with a very-high line, hence why Reina is so crucial, as he is their "sweeper-keeper", clearing up anything that gets in behind the defence, because whilst it's a well drilled unit the executes the offside trap better than any team I've ever seen, none of the defenders are known for their lightning recovery pace. Also their best two technicians & distributors (Alonso & Agger) obviously start deep.

    Kuyt & Mascherano are the main pressers of the ball.
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    Post by Luis Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:18 pm

    I'd run around the North West 5 times wearing a United shirt with Neville on the back and Everton Shorts to sell Kuyt for that price.
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    Post by DS Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:27 pm

    The thing is, Rafa will probably reject any bid for Kuyt.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:43 pm

    DS wrote:The thing is, Rafa will probably reject any bid for Kuyt.

    he'd reject any sensible offer, certainly because Kuyt can't be replaced for £13m, but for £28m he can get a couple of new players and probably give Agger a new contract.
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    Post by DS Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:57 pm

    Most likely, someone will offer at most 10 m for him which I dont see Rafa budging for, and he is a vital player for you.
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    Post by fcb Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:22 pm

    Football Genius wrote:
    kas wrote:Really? scratch

    It doesn't look like that in practice at all...Liverpool's back 4 (with the DMs in front) is often playing very deep, and "wave after wave of attack" is something you don't see often. What you have described down to a T is how Rijkaard's Barcelona played.

    Doesn't it?

    We play with holding midfielders who pass the ball out wide quickly to 'circulate' the ball, we often play a high line in posession... (try watching our games)... we rotate the wingers most often because in this system they work the hardest (emphasising Kuyt importance here), our players can interchange, Torres down channel, Kuyt central, Gerrard right or central (hence the total football approach) just because its not all flicks, and pretty football does not mean the approach is not being followed.

    Another observation of this approach, is how the central midfielders play very close to the defensive line out of possession, again another feature of our play, another feature would be a defender moving into midfield with possession (Agger) or the opposite approach (same principle flooding midfield) Gerrard falling back..

    I'm quite astonished how you don't recognise this?


    I agree with and have observed most of what you've said, about the midfield playing close to the back 4, Torres and Gerrard interchanging, etc....but I genuinely never watched a Liverpool game and noticed a high defensive line. I'll keep an eye out next time.
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    Post by Fey Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:15 pm

    WHAT!!!

    I thought we could have him back for 5 the other day!! FFS, Dirk doesnt belong in Italy, he is too nice for that!

    He is worth more though..but he has to come home after next year FFS!!!

    Our transfer kitty is 30 million next summer...but if that's how much he costs then Imo we should do anything to get him for that money

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    Post by Lordanger Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:46 pm

    flubber-flubber.
    please god, please.
    mercy! I beg of you.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:17 pm

    Ade wrote:Laugh

    I'd gladly take £8M(and Giovinco or Chiellini Whistle ).

    Could finally get Valencia(awaits EMP reply) or my guy, Whackeen cheers

    Rafa would never sell him though, as Kuyt would end their affair.

    Kuyt is liverpool without him they'll collapse to death like Feyenoord...ok

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