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Re: The best team and best player in the world? by Glenarch of the Glen Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:49 pm
Glennegoor of Hysélink wrote:winning the league, yes, but the best team don't always win the Champions League. They should get to the semis though.
A 14 points lead means it's pretty obvious they're the best team in La Liga,
Re: The best team and best player in the world? by Glenarch of the Glen Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:56 pm
Torrente wrote:Glennegoor of Hysélink wrote:winning the league, yes, but the best team don't always win the Champions League. They should get to the semis though.
A 14 points lead means it's pretty obvious they're the best team in La Liga,
That means next to nothing this season. We're absolute garbage, yet we're second and 3 points clear from third if the score remains the same against Deportivo. Go figure.
Re: The best team and best player in the world? by Sheffield gunner Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:58 pm
Calidad wrote:I expect they will win the league.
CL is always a bit of a lottery. It's not always the case that the best team in the CL win it. You need a bit of luck generally, and a couple of poor games and you're out. That said, I have them down as favourites, but there are a few others who are definitely capable too.
What's certain is that Messi will need to keep up his good form for them to win the CL.
Messiah wrote:The league is already in the bag, when it comes to the CL anything past the QF's is always a plus for me when it comes to barca.
Madridz and the rest of the league are garbage because we're letting them look like garbage.
Torrente wrote:Messiah wrote:The league is already in the bag, when it comes to the CL anything past the QF's is always a plus for me when it comes to barca.
Madridz and the rest of the league are garbage because we're letting them look like garbage.
Of course. When Real Madrid is cruising it's because the other teams are crap, but when Barcelona is cruising it's because they are so amazing. Nevermind that Valencia, Villareal, and Sevilla are just as prone to losing against any crap team in the league.
TM wrote:Capello's first year, RM were 8 points behind in March, and won the title.
And it's only January right now. There's still a chance albeit a slim one.
Re: The best team and best player in the world? by Glenarch of the Glen Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:05 pm
TM wrote:Capello's first year, RM were 8 points behind in March, and won the title.
And it's only January right now. There's still a chance albeit a slim one.
Sheffield gunner wrote:Calidad wrote:I expect they will win the league.
CL is always a bit of a lottery. It's not always the case that the best team in the CL win it. You need a bit of luck generally, and a couple of poor games and you're out. That said, I have them down as favourites, but there are a few others who are definitely capable too.
What's certain is that Messi will need to keep up his good form for them to win the CL.
I can still see a team like Man Utd stifling them and grinding out a result (if they get a fair bit of luck) in a similar manner to last season, so there are definitely no guarantees with regards to the Champions League. They haven't come up against much quality or many resolute defences this season in Spain, so it's a little hard to judge how they would deal with such obstacles. Hopefully they will win it (if Arsenal get knocked out) because they've been a joy to watch this season.
Messiah wrote:TM wrote:Capello's first year, RM were 8 points behind in March, and won the title.
And it's only January right now. There's still a chance albeit a slim one.
But this drug ain't that drug.
Torrente wrote:Messiah wrote:The league is already in the bag, when it comes to the CL anything past the QF's is always a plus for me when it comes to barca.
Madridz and the rest of the league are garbage because we're letting them look like garbage.
Of course. When Real Madrid is cruising it's because the other teams are crap, but when Barcelona is cruising it's because they are so amazing. Nevermind that Valencia, Villareal, and Sevilla are just as prone to losing against any crap team in the league.
Re: The best team and best player in the world? by Pierre Littbarski Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:21 pm
Re: The best team and best player in the world? by Sheffield gunner Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:22 pm
Calidad wrote:Sheffield gunner wrote:Calidad wrote:I expect they will win the league.
CL is always a bit of a lottery. It's not always the case that the best team in the CL win it. You need a bit of luck generally, and a couple of poor games and you're out. That said, I have them down as favourites, but there are a few others who are definitely capable too.
What's certain is that Messi will need to keep up his good form for them to win the CL.
I can still see a team like Man Utd stifling them and grinding out a result (if they get a fair bit of luck) in a similar manner to last season, so there are definitely no guarantees with regards to the Champions League. They haven't come up against much quality or many resolute defences this season in Spain, so it's a little hard to judge how they would deal with such obstacles. Hopefully they will win it (if Arsenal get knocked out) because they've been a joy to watch this season.
They have already put 12 past Atletico in 2 games, a side that Liverpool managed two 1-1 draws against.
Yes, teams have folded against them, but you can only beat who is put in front of you, and thus far they have dispatched pretty much every one fairly easy, barring Numancia which was at the start of the season, and Shaktar (where they fielded a 2nd XI).
Ofcourse the EPL big four, as well as the likes of Inter and Juve will no doubt prove much sterner opposition.
If they were to come up against Utd again, I think the games would be completely different to last season though. Last season Utd were flying, whereas Barca couldn't buy a goal, lacking confidence and cutting edge. Totatally different kettle of fish this seson though.
Pierre Littbarski wrote:They have to avoid United, Liverpool, Chelsea, Inter and Juve to win the CL ,IMO, and that's not going to happen.
If Messi can perform against one of those I might consider him best player in the world but I won't hold my breath.
TITO wrote:Pierre Littbarski wrote:They have to avoid United, Liverpool, Chelsea, Inter and Juve to win the CL ,IMO, and that's not going to happen.
If Messi can perform against one of those I might consider him best player in the world but I won't hold my breath.
How many times he has to prove that??? That he can perform against big teams. I still don't get it why is still discussed.
Sheffield gunner wrote:Calidad wrote:Sheffield gunner wrote:Calidad wrote:I expect they will win the league.
CL is always a bit of a lottery. It's not always the case that the best team in the CL win it. You need a bit of luck generally, and a couple of poor games and you're out. That said, I have them down as favourites, but there are a few others who are definitely capable too.
What's certain is that Messi will need to keep up his good form for them to win the CL.
I can still see a team like Man Utd stifling them and grinding out a result (if they get a fair bit of luck) in a similar manner to last season, so there are definitely no guarantees with regards to the Champions League. They haven't come up against much quality or many resolute defences this season in Spain, so it's a little hard to judge how they would deal with such obstacles. Hopefully they will win it (if Arsenal get knocked out) because they've been a joy to watch this season.
They have already put 12 past Atletico in 2 games, a side that Liverpool managed two 1-1 draws against.
Yes, teams have folded against them, but you can only beat who is put in front of you, and thus far they have dispatched pretty much every one fairly easy, barring Numancia which was at the start of the season, and Shaktar (where they fielded a 2nd XI).
Ofcourse the EPL big four, as well as the likes of Inter and Juve will no doubt prove much sterner opposition.
If they were to come up against Utd again, I think the games would be completely different to last season though. Last season Utd were flying, whereas Barca couldn't buy a goal, lacking confidence and cutting edge. Totatally different kettle of fish this seson though.
I'm not knocking Barca, because they have been fantastic this season, and they can't have done much more than they have this season. But facing Man Utd, and maybe Liverpool or Chelsea in form could still be a different matter although (whereas Barcelona would take us to pieces with ease).
Beating Atletico like that was impressive, but they are a team who can quickly collapse into shambolic performances. I'm thinking more of the Real Madrid game, where Madrid frustrated them for a long time at the Camp Nou despite injuries and a defence which had been woeful in previous games. That's the sort of match I can envisage Man Utd playing against Barcelona, but in a more accomplished manner. And as disjointed as they've been going forward, they've been formidable when defending. I think Barcelona would be strong favourites against any team in Europe, but I could easily envisage a couple of teams catching them out if luck was on their side.
Torrente wrote:Glennegoor of Hysélink wrote:winning the league, yes, but the best team don't always win the Champions League. They should get to the semis though.
A 14 points lead means it's pretty obvious they're the best team in La Liga,
That means next to nothing this season. We're absolute garbage, yet we're second and 3 points clear from third if the score remains the same against Deportivo. Go figure.
Gone wrote:Torrente wrote:Glennegoor of Hysélink wrote:winning the league, yes, but the best team don't always win the Champions League. They should get to the semis though.
A 14 points lead means it's pretty obvious they're the best team in La Liga,
That means next to nothing this season. We're absolute garbage, yet we're second and 3 points clear from third if the score remains the same against Deportivo. Go figure.
No, you are the same as last year. Only this year Barca are awesome. Didn't they break the record for the most points in the first half of the season?
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