Guess the 2009-10 champions?

My picks:

Serie A: Inter
EPL: Chelsea
La Liga: Barcelona

CL: Chelsea
Europa: Roma

inter
bayern
chelsea
barca

chelsea
a side nobody expects

Özil wrote:
chelsea
a side nobody expects

Every year everybody tips them for the title.

L r dd wrote:

Özil wrote:
chelsea
a side nobody expects

Every year everybody tips them for the title.

Those last 2 are his picks for the CL and the Europa League.

can't say yet : till september 1st anything can still dramatically change....

Although it would seem that in Holland AZ have sold the title to Ajax for a mere 6M euros.

kas wrote:

L r dd wrote:

Özil wrote:
chelsea
a side nobody expects

Every year everybody tips them for the title.

Those last 2 are his picks for the CL and the Europa League.

ahhh well for that as well really.

Serie A: Inter
EPL: Chelsea
La Liga: Barcelona
Ligue 1: OM
Bundesliga: Bayern
Liga 1: CFR Cluj
Holland: Ajax
Scotland: Aberdeen

CL: Chelsea
Europa: Genoa

I really do hope Marseille win Ligue 1 this year.

Barcelona
Chelsea
Bayern
Juventus
Marseille

? Have no idea - maybe Chelsea
?

Serie A: Juventus
EPL: ???
La Liga: Barcelona
Ligue 1: Marseille
Bundesliga: Watched Wolfsburg this weekend, I like them to do a repeat.
Holland: ???
Scotland: ???

CL: London Club
Europa: Fenerbahce

Why is everyone predicting Chelsea to win everything? They're no better than the last couple of years, and have another new manager to get used to.

I'll say:

Juventus
Liverpool
Barcelona
Bayern
Bordeaux

CL: Inter
EL: Aston Villa

Spain: Barcelona (rather worrying that nobody has picked Real Madrid)

Italy: Inter

Germany: Bayern

England: Man. Utd.

France: Marseille

Portugal: Benfica

Holland: Ajax

Turkey: Galatasaray

Scotland: Celtic

CL: Chelsea

Europa: Too early to predict anything

Serie A: Juventus
EPL: Liverpool
La Liga: Barcelona
Bundesliga: Bayern Munich

CL: Too early to predict. Maybe Real Madrid!!!

debaser wrote:Why is everyone predicting Chelsea to win everything? They're no better than the last couple of years, and have another new manager to get used to.

I'll say:

Juventus
Liverpool
Barcelona
Bayern
Bordeaux

CL: Inter
EL: Aston Villa

Now they have the best manager since Mourinho. And with Jose they almost won everything.

debaser wrote:Why is everyone predicting Chelsea to win everything? They're no better than the last couple of years


CL: Inter

I think Real will win one the league or CL this year. The £400 billion has been well spent

bluenine wrote:My picks:

Serie A: Inter
EPL: Chelsea
La Liga: Barcelona

CL: Chelsea
Europa: Roma

Stop hyping Italian coaches Blue

If Ancelloti plays 4-1-2-1-2 all season there is no way Chelsea will win the EPL.

My favourites are Liverpool, unless Utd sign a top class winger/forward type player.

For the rest.

La Liga: Barca
Serie A: Inter

CL: Real Madrid
Europa: ???? - someone dropping out of the CL.

Tweedle wrote:

bluenine wrote:My picks:

Serie A: Inter
EPL: Chelsea
La Liga: Barcelona

CL: Chelsea
Europa: Roma

Stop hyping Italian coaches Blue

If Ancelloti plays 4-1-2-1-2 all season there is no way Chelsea will win the EPL.

My favourites are Liverpool, unless Utd sign a top class winger/forward type player.

For the rest.

La Liga: Barca
Serie A: Inter

CL: Real Madrid
Europa: ???? - someone dropping out of the CL.

Its not just the coach, ManUtd ve lost their best player. I think Chelsea ve the edge now, if Ancellotti can stay for the entire season. He is an accomplished coach, and now has a complete squad with him. Liverpool could win it too if they start the season well. Ditto ManUtd. But IMO Chelsea will be the team to beat.

Problems for Chelsea I see are:

*maybe taking a while to adapt to whatever changes Ancellotti makes. Could mean they drop points early on.
*probably losing several key players in Jan/Feb for African Cup of Nations (don't really have replacements for Essien & Mikel)
*squad looks a bit old, overall. This is sometimes good - I'd probably put them more likely to win CL than PL due to this experience - but may make a difference in latter stages of season in the league when facing glut of fixtures, against younger, fresher sides

Tweedle wrote:If Ancelloti plays 4-1-2-1-2 all season there is no way Chelsea will win the EPL.

Tweeds, don't tell me your buying this "Lamps isn't as good when he isn't playing off Drogba" crap spouted by the Sky pundits?

Given the players they've got it's their best formation: Room for the Cole and Bosingwa to bomb forward, Essien and Lampard playing in their correct positions - Malouda also played CM at Lyon so it shouldn't be a problem in that formation - and the goalscoring threat of Anelka and Drogba.

If Lampard isn't playing well he could drop back into Malouda's position and you could play Ballack/Deco at the top.

EPL:Man utd
Spain:real madrid not
Italy: Milan(the return of dinho), most likely inter
Germany:bayern
france:OM


CL:Barcelona (in the bernabeu)
Europa:Villarreal

EPL: Chelsea
Spain: Real Madrid (flat track bullies and will be more consistent due to larger squad)
Italy: Inter
Germany: Bayern
France: Marseille
Portugal: Porto
Holland: Ajax

CL: Barcelona
Europa: Valencia

EPL: Chelsea
Spain: Barca
Italy: Juventus
Germany: Bayern/HSV
France: Lyon
Portugal: Porto
Holland: Feyenoord

CL: Chelsea
Europa: Some Soviet team

toon h wrote:
Spain: Real Madrid (flat track bullies and will be more consistent due to larger squad)
CL: Barcelona

Would you be happy with that? I think I'd rather see Barça win the league...it would be some achievement to beat out a squad worth 400 million and full of superstars.

Not that I want Madrid to win the CL...but in that tournament a team that works well, esp. in defense, is more important. And there are many other teams that can knock them out.

Olé wrote:

Tweedle wrote:If Ancelloti plays 4-1-2-1-2 all season there is no way Chelsea will win the EPL.

Tweeds, don't tell me your buying this "Lamps isn't as good when he isn't playing off Drogba" crap spouted by the Sky pundits?

No. I don't even have Sky sports!

It won't work because it lacks width and the formation may struggle to score against teams parking the bus - the same way that Scolari's team struggled.

Same thing happened with Milan in Serie A. They dropped tonnes of points against opposition that they should have beaten because they lacked the neccessary penetration in the final third.

kas wrote:

toon h wrote:
Spain: Real Madrid (flat track bullies and will be more consistent due to larger squad)
CL: Barcelona

Would you be happy with that? I think I'd rather see Barça win the league...it would be some achievement to beat out a squad worth 400 million and full of superstars.

Not that I want Madrid to win the CL...but in that tournament a team that works well, esp. in defense, is more important. And there are many other teams that can knock them out.

Always with the victim complex.

Super De La Red wrote:

kas wrote:

toon h wrote:
Spain: Real Madrid (flat track bullies and will be more consistent due to larger squad)
CL: Barcelona

Would you be happy with that? I think I'd rather see Barça win the league...it would be some achievement to beat out a squad worth 400 million and full of superstars.

Not that I want Madrid to win the CL...but in that tournament a team that works well, esp. in defense, is more important. And there are many other teams that can knock them out.

Always with the victim complex.

Do you have me confused with a Liverpool fan?

Tweedle wrote:

Olé wrote:

Tweedle wrote:If Ancelloti plays 4-1-2-1-2 all season there is no way Chelsea will win the EPL.

Tweeds, don't tell me your buying this "Lamps isn't as good when he isn't playing off Drogba" crap spouted by the Sky pundits?

No. I don't even have Sky sports!

It won't work because it lacks width and the formation may struggle to score against teams parking the bus - the same way that Scolari's team struggled.

Same thing happened with Milan in Serie A. They dropped tonnes of points against opposition that they should have beaten because they lacked the neccessary penetration in the final third.

I don't think that was Milan's problem... their main problem was a leaky aging defence, and superstars who didn't seem motivated against less glamourous sides. Penetration was not a problem (Pato, Pirlo, Kaka, Dinho, Seedorf) but the lack of a quality target man who would convert the chances probably was.... Thats why Inzaghi was so successful for them whenever fit.

Well maybe I'm basing my opinion on too few Milan game. This formation was tried by Scolari at the start of last season though and look where that got them!

bluenine wrote:but the lack of a quality target man who would convert the chances probably was.... Thats why Inzaghi was so successful for them whenever fit.

Hmm, guess what I've always called Huntelaar....

It starts with "The N..." and ends with "ew Inzaghi"

Tweedle wrote:Well maybe I'm basing my opinion on too few Milan game. This formation was tried by Scolari at the start of last season though and look where that got them!

Perhaps, but then Ancelotti is not the same as Scolari. Different coach, different approach... its too early to tell how his tactics will change, maybe Deco starts playing a pirlo-isque role soon.