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    Post by Torrente Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:36 am

    Marca and AS are reporting it as a done deal. It's meant to also facilitate Ribery's transfer to Real Madrid next summer Doh

    Fucking Valdano and Perez never learn. We just got rid of one of our most impressive players in pre-season, and after a seemingly looking great squad just a few days ago, our squad is thin once again, at least for attacking positions Mad
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:38 am

    Crazy

    So without Robben and with no Ribery, who plays on the left?

    Ronaldo?
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    Post by Romford Pele Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:39 am

    Kaka? Granero?
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    Post by Torrente Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:41 am

    Ronaldo has been playing on the left most of pre-season, so I guess it will be him. Although since Pellegrini doesn't play with wingers and expects the fullbacks to provide the width, it doesn't really matter if it's Ronaldo, Granero, Kaka, etc.
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    Post by Torrente Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:43 am

    There's also rumors floating around that Ribery could very well be signed before the transfer window closes, which would explain why the club pushed Sneijder so hard to leave and now have sold Robben. But looking at the past, Valdano hasn't always been the smartest with transfers so anything is possible.
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:49 am

    Well the way Real have handled themselves has made it a buyers market.

    By pushing the players out, they're never going to get the same money as they would get if they were sold for how much their true value in the current market is.

    That's where the whole Perez experimnt might financialy fall flat on its face.
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    Post by Fey Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:49 am

    Is this for real, since no Dutch source has reported it yet..and since the spanish press says Robben would go to Bayern for 3 months now..
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    Post by Axeslammer Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:56 am

    Fey wrote:Is this for real, since no Dutch source has reported it yet..and since the spanish press says Robben would go to Bayern for 3 months now..

    kicker is also in the dark on this subject...
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    Post by Torrente Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:59 am

    Tweedle wrote:Well the way Real have handled themselves has made it a buyers market.

    By pushing the players out, they're never going to get the same money as they would get if they were sold for how much their true value in the current market is.

    That's where the whole Perez experimnt might financialy fall flat on its face.

    It was reported at the beginning of the summer that Perez intended to spend close to 300 million (the amount spend so far has been 248 million), while making back about 100 million. If Ribery is purchased for let's say 40-45 million, then things would still come close to the original plan.

    Having sold Javi Garcia (6m), Saviola (5m), Sneijder (15m), Robben (25), Negredo (15), Heinze (free), Salgado (free), the club has made close to 70 million.

    Assuming that VDV is sold for 5-10 million, while Torres is sold for 3-5 million, the club would come close to the original calculations, though still falling about 20 million short (which isn't a surprise given how other clubs were well aware of Madrid's desperation to offload players.)
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    Post by fcb Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:02 pm

    It was said earlier in the summer that part of Perez's "business plan" was not just to cover the cost of these signings through shirt sales and marketing/TV revenue, but also by raising at least 100m in instant cash via player sales. They were struggling to reach that thanks to all the Dutch players, but now with Sneijder and Robben going for around 40m, his financial plan may actually work Shocked

    But of course, it's tipped the balance away from the football project, because as Torrente said, they've sold one of their most impressive players from the pre-season, and also the only pure winger in the squad, someone who could really come on, stretch the field of play, and cause "disequilibrium" in the opposition.
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    Post by Romford Pele Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:03 pm

    Where did Saviola go?
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    Post by Torrente Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:04 pm

    Ray Parlour wrote:Where did Saviola go?

    Benfica bought both Saviola and Javi Garcia
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    Post by Romford Pele Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:06 pm

    Cheers ok
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    Post by toon h Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:25 pm

    Torrente wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:Well the way Real have handled themselves has made it a buyers market.

    By pushing the players out, they're never going to get the same money as they would get if they were sold for how much their true value in the current market is.

    That's where the whole Perez experimnt might financialy fall flat on its face.

    It was reported at the beginning of the summer that Perez intended to spend close to 300 million (the amount spend so far has been 248 million), while making back about 100 million. If Ribery is purchased for let's say 40-45 million, then things would still come close to the original plan.

    Having sold Javi Garcia (6m), Saviola (5m), Sneijder (15m), Robben (25), Negredo (15), Heinze (free), Salgado (free), the club has made close to 70 million.

    Assuming that VDV is sold for 5-10 million, while Torres is sold for 3-5 million, the club would come close to the original calculations, though still falling about 20 million short (which isn't a surprise given how other clubs were well aware of Madrid's desperation to offload players.)

    I must also admit the squad starts to look thinner now. Who would provide cover for Ramos if Torres goes?

    though, surely Bayern aren't after all this going to sell Ribery for 40-45M€???
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    Post by Kroos Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:27 pm

    how many injuries did he have last season ?

    is he actually now that injury prone?


    we lack of quality and depth in defence, a new goalkeeper would be nice,

    honess is completly losin it


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    Post by Ricardo Jol Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:28 pm

    Axeslammer wrote:
    Fey wrote:Is this for real, since no Dutch source has reported it yet..and since the spanish press says Robben would go to Bayern for 3 months now..

    kicker is also in the dark on this subject...

    Not bad for Gronginen all those robben moves from club to club Ale
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:29 pm

    Özil wrote:how many injuries did he have last season ?

    is he actually now that injury prone?
    he hardly missed games due to injury...
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:32 pm

    what happens if Robben outshines Ribery? Will Real drop their interest in the Frenchman and try to resign Robben?
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:33 pm

    Torrente wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:Well the way Real have handled themselves has made it a buyers market.

    By pushing the players out, they're never going to get the same money as they would get if they were sold for how much their true value in the current market is.

    That's where the whole Perez experimnt might financialy fall flat on its face.

    It was reported at the beginning of the summer that Perez intended to spend close to 300 million (the amount spend so far has been 248 million), while making back about 100 million. If Ribery is purchased for let's say 40-45 million, then things would still come close to the original plan.

    Having sold Javi Garcia (6m), Saviola (5m), Sneijder (15m), Robben (25), Negredo (15), Heinze (free), Salgado (free), the club has made close to 70 million.

    Assuming that VDV is sold for 5-10 million, while Torres is sold for 3-5 million, the club would come close to the original calculations, though still falling about 20 million short (which isn't a surprise given how other clubs were well aware of Madrid's desperation to offload players.)

    5-10 mln for a player of his calibre is really cheap....
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    Post by Kroos Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:33 pm

    we have schweinsteiger - ribery - robben pranjic for the left side


    we have rensing butt as goalkeepers

    we have görlitz and lell as rightback, and lahm is shit in that position

    enke-srna- would be better choice


    says it really everything


    i really intersted what vangaal is thinking

    he hardly cant play with 4-3-3 (klose, toni) on bench and only gomez playing, hardly to believe

    then we have olic, our best player atm, but dont have the superstar status,


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    Post by TM Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:39 pm

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    Post by Axeslammer Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:48 pm

    Ricardo Wetzel wrote:
    Axeslammer wrote:
    Fey wrote:Is this for real, since no Dutch source has reported it yet..and since the spanish press says Robben would go to Bayern for 3 months now..

    kicker is also in the dark on this subject...

    Not bad for Gronginen all those robben moves from club to club Ale

    Hehe, didn't want to say it....but you're quite right Ale

    I think we're gonna have a party over here tomorrow cheers
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    Post by Kroos Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:49 pm

    --------------Gomez---------------
    ribery-------------------Robben---
    --------------schweini--------------
    -----------Tymo----MvB------------


    hard times for klose and toni, vangaal is progressing his 4-3-3
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    Post by Axeslammer Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:49 pm

    Ricardo Wetzel wrote:


    Assuming that VDV is sold for 5-10 million, while Torres is sold for 3-5 million, the club would come close to the original calculations, though still falling about 20 million short (which isn't a surprise given how other clubs were well aware of Madrid's desperation to offload players.)

    5-10 mln for a player of his calibre is really cheap....

    They have to pay 6-7M to Ajax when they sell him, so that would mean a price tag of 11-17M.


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    Post by Axeslammer Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:50 pm

    Özil wrote:--------------GomezMüller---------------
    ribery-------------------Robben---
    --------------schweini--------------
    -----------Tymo----MvB------------


    Now we're talking ok
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:56 pm

    Axeslammer wrote:
    Ricardo Wetzel wrote:


    Assuming that VDV is sold for 5-10 million, while Torres is sold for 3-5 million, the club would come close to the original calculations, though still falling about 20 million short (which isn't a surprise given how other clubs were well aware of Madrid's desperation to offload players.)

    5-10 mln for a player of his calibre is really cheap....

    They have to pay 6-7M to Ajax when they sell him, so that would mean a price tag of 11-17M.

    Guys you can choose:

    5 mln for vdv or 30 mln for mario gomez.... Erm
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    Post by SuperMario Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:03 pm

    lol!
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    Post by Fade out Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:05 pm

    This is a stupid move. FFS Perez et Valdano should listen to the coach. Did they even watch the preseason games? Sad
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    Post by Jaime Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:11 pm

    Couldn't believe this wasn't discussed in the RM thread then I saw this. Quite a stupid move if true, which it looks like it is. We need a player with his pace and dribbling. Ok he's a bit greedy sometimes but when is fit he is still the best out-and-out winger in the game for me. Very big mistake IMO. Of all the dutchies if you told me by the end of summer we'd only be left with Drenthe, VDV, and RVN I would have laughed in your face.
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    Post by Torrente Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:14 pm

    The only explanation I can think of is that Ribery will be signed this transfer window, otherwise it has to be one of the dumbest pieces of business ever made. If Ribery is signed for about 40 million, then it's not such a bad move given that he's more of a Pellegrini type of player and doesn't get injured as often.

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