Premier League Squad Cap and Home Grown Player Quota

Is to start next season apparently..

Breaking news on SSN

Just saw that as well.....

We're pretty sorted

I hope its extended to the Championship

We had 6 in our starting XI on saturday !

A clean sheet with a keeper and back 4 from the academy

Bit ridiculous to announce it with only a year notice. I mean surely teams need time to prepare.

Good news. It's not perfect though, by 'home grown' they just mean English, rather than from that clubs academy.

Kimbo wrote:Good news. It's not perfect though, by 'home grown' they just mean English, rather than from that clubs academy.

Shit

They are also going to hand out harsher punishments to clubs in the financial shit apparently.

what are the details? Thread title doesn't really say a lot.

Home grown means trained at the club, or local and trained at the club? There was an 'ascotiation trained' rule is it that one?

borocooper wrote:They are also going to hand out harsher punishments to clubs in the financial shit apparently.

Shit

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Kimbo wrote:Good news. It's not perfect though, by 'home grown' they just mean English, rather than from that clubs academy.

Shit

Exactly, rather than looking at foreign kids they'll be looking at ours.

Kimbo wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Kimbo wrote:Good news. It's not perfect though, by 'home grown' they just mean English, rather than from that clubs academy.

Shit

Exactly, rather than looking at foreign kids they'll be looking at ours.

Do you know the location of our training ground Kimbo ?

Literally over the fence from Arsenal's

I think we will look to a few but we have been producing a lot lately.

A few have the chance to break into our squad and even if they don't they always end up at a PL Club.

This is going to fuck Chelsea, they can't buy anyone.

From next season, each club will, at the end of every transfer window, have to name a squad of up to 25 players, at least eight of which will have to be "home grown" - registered for at least three seasons at an English or Welsh club between the ages of 16 and 21.

Squads can be boosted beyond the 25 limit but only by players under the age of 21.

Doesn't sound like it'll make much difference, top four clubs can still poach the kids when they're 16 and count them as 'home grown' a few yrs later

I doubt there's many teams that have more than 25 over-21 yr olds in their squad.

Essentially this just makes the top four's transfer policy legally binding. How very disappointing.

We are fine so it doesnt really bother me, could be interesting for Chelsea though if they cant buy anyone.

Limiting the squads to 25 might be interesting, it means some will have to sell before they can buy.

The financial stuff:

- Clubs must submit independently audited accounts to the Premier League by 1 March each year with requirements to note any material qualifications or issues raised by auditors.

- Clubs must submit future financial information to the Premier League by 31 March each year as early warning for any club taking undue financial risk

- An annual requirement to demonstrate to the Premier League Board that a club does not have outstanding debts to other clubs

- An annual requirement to demonstrate to the Premier League Board that a club is not in debt with regard to income tax or National Insurance and payroll taxes

None of it means anything. Point 2 is the one where the crackdown should happen, but effectively all it's saying is that Abramovich or Sheikh Abu Dhabi just need to write a note saying "FYI, I'm going to be spending billions this summer. Thanks"

The homegrown players rule also doesn't change much. At least 8 players have to be trained at an English or Welsh club for a period of 3 years...so nationality doesn't matter. The only difference is that (for example) Tosic and Obertan have to be in the academy/reserves for 3 years before being officially registered, in case Man. Utd. already have 8 non-homegrown players under 21, which is unlikely anyway.

So really the only noteworthy change is the limiting of the squad size to 25 (just like Spain) something I posted about earlier in the season. It'll be a good change.

kas wrote:None of it means anything. Point 2 is the one where the crackdown should happen, but effectively all it's saying is that Abramovich or Sheikh Abu Dhabi just need to write a note saying "FYI, I'm going to be spending billions this summer. Thanks"

Abramovich and Mansour never spent £60 million+ on a single player.

MASSIVE

Not sure what the point is here - is that a reference to Ibrahimovic? If so, I won't bother responding because it should be obvious what the difference is.

kas wrote:Not sure what the point is here - is that a reference to Ibrahimovic? If so, I won't bother responding because it should be obvious what the difference is.

Your club (part of football's elite) have spent more on an individual player (by approximately 100%) than Mansour or Abramovich have.

You rolling your eyes at their expenditure is nothing short of ludicrous. It's like Man U fans rolling their eyes at Real Madrid's expenditure.

kas wrote:The financial stuff:

- Clubs must submit independently audited accounts to the Premier League by 1 March each year with requirements to note any material qualifications or issues raised by auditors.

- Clubs must submit future financial information to the Premier League by 31 March each year as early warning for any club taking undue financial risk

- An annual requirement to demonstrate to the Premier League Board that a club does not have outstanding debts to other clubs

- An annual requirement to demonstrate to the Premier League Board that a club is not in debt with regard to income tax or National Insurance and payroll taxes

None of it means anything. Point 2 is the one where the crackdown should happen, but effectively all it's saying is that Abramovich or Sheikh Abu Dhabi just need to write a note saying "FYI, I'm going to be spending billions this summer. Thanks"

The homegrown players rule also doesn't change much. At least 8 players have to be trained at an English or Welsh club for a period of 3 years...so nationality doesn't matter. The only difference is that (for example) Tosic and Obertan have to be in the academy/reserves for 3 years before being officially registered, in case Man. Utd. already have 8 non-homegrown players under 21, which is unlikely anyway.

So really the only noteworthy change is the limiting of the squad size to 25 (just like Spain) something I posted about earlier in the season. It'll be a good change.

But you can expand your squad to include players that are under 21, so I can't see it particularly affecting any team at all. Most of Liverpool's huge squad are under 21, same with Arsenal and Man United. Even with Chelsea I can't see it being a particular problem.

Six wrote:

kas wrote:The financial stuff:

- Clubs must submit independently audited accounts to the Premier League by 1 March each year with requirements to note any material qualifications or issues raised by auditors.

- Clubs must submit future financial information to the Premier League by 31 March each year as early warning for any club taking undue financial risk

- An annual requirement to demonstrate to the Premier League Board that a club does not have outstanding debts to other clubs

- An annual requirement to demonstrate to the Premier League Board that a club is not in debt with regard to income tax or National Insurance and payroll taxes

None of it means anything. Point 2 is the one where the crackdown should happen, but effectively all it's saying is that Abramovich or Sheikh Abu Dhabi just need to write a note saying "FYI, I'm going to be spending billions this summer. Thanks"

The homegrown players rule also doesn't change much. At least 8 players have to be trained at an English or Welsh club for a period of 3 years...so nationality doesn't matter. The only difference is that (for example) Tosic and Obertan have to be in the academy/reserves for 3 years before being officially registered, in case Man. Utd. already have 8 non-homegrown players under 21, which is unlikely anyway.

So really the only noteworthy change is the limiting of the squad size to 25 (just like Spain) something I posted about earlier in the season. It'll be a good change.

But you can expand your squad to include players that are under 21, so I can't see it particularly affecting any team at all. Most of Liverpool's huge squad are under 21, same with Arsenal and Man United. Even with Chelsea I can't see it being a particular problem.

It'll be something for Man. City to chew on - their squad is already 24 players, with just Weiss under 21. So if they qualify for Europe next year and want a larger squad, they can only buy 2 more first team players.

But you do not need a 25 man squad full of first teamers, it's too big if anything. There are players in their squad they will want to sell either way, so I can't see them getting any sleepless nights over this specific rule.

Well, I agree that a full squad of first teamers is too big (with an exception for teams like Barça this year or Man. Utd. last year, who have ridiculous schedules...but even then, 21 or 22 first teamers should be enough)

...but try explaining that to Man. City or Real Madrid

Tell me Kas, how much net profit did Barca post recently?

How much did they spent on player transfer fees?

If the latter is higher than the former, you must have borrowed money to buy players. So what's the difference between Barca and Real?

Net profit is the difference between revenue and expenditure. Expenditure includes money spent on transfers.

Barça made a profit for the past few years, so this implies that their total revenue was in excess of all their expenditure, including transfers. This year the profit was 8m euros...I don't remember past figures.

This summer's spending was around 70m euros (plus the bonuses of 40m) so next year it's possible that the club makes a loss. And there was a story that the club has extended their line of credit (but I'm not sure if they just extended it in case it's needed for future use, or actually used it already) although the directors claim that no debt was used to buy players this summer. Guess we'll only find out when the accounts are published next year.

Hope that explains it

kas wrote:Well, I agree that a full squad of first teamers is too big (with an exception for teams like Barça this year or Man. Utd. last year, who have ridiculous schedules...but even then, 21 or 22 first teamers should be enough)

...but try explaining that to Man. City or Real Madrid

F*ck off we tried to get rid of more players but they won't leave!!!!!!

kas wrote:

Net profit is the difference between revenue and expenditure. Expenditure includes money spent on transfers.

Barça made a profit for the past few years, so this implies that their total revenue was in excess of all their expenditure, including transfers. This year the profit was 8m euros...I don't remember past figures.

This summer's spending was around 70m euros (plus the bonuses of 40m) so next year it's possible that the club makes a loss. And there was a story that the club has extended their line of credit (but I'm not sure if they just extended it in case it's needed for future use, or actually used it already) although the directors claim that no debt was used to buy players this summer. Guess we'll only find out when the accounts are published next year.

Hope that explains it

All false.

Jaime wrote:

kas wrote:

Net profit is the difference between revenue and expenditure. Expenditure includes money spent on transfers.

Barça made a profit for the past few years, so this implies that their total revenue was in excess of all their expenditure, including transfers. This year the profit was 8m euros...I don't remember past figures.

This summer's spending was around 70m euros (plus the bonuses of 40m) so next year it's possible that the club makes a loss. And there was a story that the club has extended their line of credit (but I'm not sure if they just extended it in case it's needed for future use, or actually used it already) although the directors claim that no debt was used to buy players this summer. Guess we'll only find out when the accounts are published next year.

Hope that explains it

All false.

You're kidding right? It's all true

kas wrote:

Jaime wrote:

kas wrote:

Net profit is the difference between revenue and expenditure. Expenditure includes money spent on transfers.

Barça made a profit for the past few years, so this implies that their total revenue was in excess of all their expenditure, including transfers. This year the profit was 8m euros...I don't remember past figures.

This summer's spending was around 70m euros (plus the bonuses of 40m) so next year it's possible that the club makes a loss. And there was a story that the club has extended their line of credit (but I'm not sure if they just extended it in case it's needed for future use, or actually used it already) although the directors claim that no debt was used to buy players this summer. Guess we'll only find out when the accounts are published next year.

Hope that explains it

All false.

You're kidding right? It's all true

Well, I suppose I cannot prove it is all false. But I am pretty sure you used a loan to by Chygyryrysygyskyy.