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    Who has the better defence - Inter or Chelsea?

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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:44 pm

    Inter:

    Julio Cesar + Maicon, Lucio, Samuel, Chivu

    backups - Toldo + Cordoba, Materazzi, Santon, Zanetti

    Chelsea:

    Cech + Bosingwa, Carvalho, Terry, Cole

    bakcups - Hilario + Ivanovic, Ferreira, Alex, Belletti
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    Post by Chris 23* Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:47 pm

    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:Inter:

    Julio Cesar + Maicon, Lucio, Samuel, Chivu

    backups - Toldo + Cordoba, Materazzi, Santon, Zanetti

    Chelsea:

    Cech + Bosingwa, Carvalho, Terry, Cole

    bakcups - Hilario + Ivanovic, Ferreira, Alex, Belletti

    Vey close, but i think Chelsea just edge it IMO
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    Post by Calidad Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:53 pm

    Chris_LFC_Manc_Hater wrote:
    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:Inter:

    Julio Cesar + Maicon, Lucio, Samuel, Chivu

    backups - Toldo + Cordoba, Materazzi, Santon, Zanetti

    Chelsea:

    Cech + Bosingwa, Carvalho, Terry, Cole

    bakcups - Hilario + Ivanovic, Ferreira, Alex, Belletti

    Vey close, but i think Chelsea just edge it IMO

    Would be inclined to agree.

    Granted I don't see much of Inter but as a neutral you'd probably say Inter would get two spots out of the back 5 (Cesar + Maicon) - but that said Samuel, Lucio, Chivu are all good players too.

    Both have good backups - Chelsea with Alex, Zhirkov + Ivanovic; Inter with Zanetti, Cordoba + Santon
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    Post by bluenine Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:53 pm

    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:Inter:

    Julio Cesar + Maicon, Lucio, Samuel, Chivu

    backups - Toldo + Cordoba, Materazzi, Santon, Zanetti

    Chelsea:

    Cech + Bosingwa, Carvalho, Terry, Cole

    bakcups - Hilario + Ivanovic, Ferreira, Alex, Belletti
    You should put Zhirkov instead of Belletti.

    Both are very good defenses, quality and depth. I guess only "personal bias" separates them.
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    Post by Parks lives Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:54 pm

    Chelsea's has proved itself on an equal playing field better than Inter's, so Chelsea's.
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    Post by L r dd Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:56 pm

    In terms of names who knows, in reality i am not impressed with Chelsea's defence at all. Don't watch Inter enough to comment on them.
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    Post by stinger Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:58 pm

    Inter, only because Julio Cesar is more reliable these days than Cech.
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:03 pm

    Parks lives wrote:Chelsea's has proved itself on an equal playing field better than Inter's, so Chelsea's.

    I assume you're referring to previous CL seasons. Not really fair IMO since Inter lost it's CBs when the KO stages arrived and ended up playing shit like Rivas and Burdisso (who are now gone).
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    Post by Chris 23* Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:04 pm

    stinger wrote:Inter, only because Julio Cesar is more reliable these days than Cech.

    I dont think Cech has ever been the same since the Injury Shocked
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    Post by abundance Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:14 pm

    I'm obviously biased, but to me:
    Cesar > Cech
    Maicon > Bosingwa
    Lucio = Carvalho
    Samuel > Terry
    Chivu < Cole

    Chelsea CB backups are way better than our ageing legends though
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    Post by Super Progress Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:36 pm

    This season I would say it is Inter's defence but I don't know if you can simply judge a defence by the defence as a whole because the midfield is heavily linked in protecting it. With that in mind I would say Chelsea without a doubt.
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:16 pm

    abundance wrote:I'm obviously biased, but to me:
    Cesar > Cech
    Maicon > Bosingwa
    Lucio = Carvalho
    Samuel > Terry
    Chivu < Cole

    Chelsea CB backups are way better than our ageing legends though

    Lucio equals Carvalho does he? Interesting... Coffee
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    Post by bluenine Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:44 pm

    abundance wrote:I'm obviously biased, but to me:
    Cesar > Cech
    Maicon > Bosingwa
    Lucio = Carvalho
    Samuel > Terry
    Chivu < Cole

    Chelsea CB backups are way better than our ageing legends though

    I would agree with that, except Lucio < Carvalho. Carvalho is one of the most gifted CB's of this generation, next to perhaps only Nesta in terms of talent.
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    Post by L r dd Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:47 pm

    Why do you think this? I don't get it. Carvalho is a pretty clumsy defender sometimes and can be very dodgy. He's always been rated very high but he's had one and a half good seasons with Chelsea for my money still was slightly suspect then.
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    Post by Football Genius Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:52 pm

    L r dd wrote:Why do you think this? I don't get it. Carvalho is a pretty clumsy defender sometimes and can be very dodgy. He's always been rated very high but he's had one and a half good seasons with Chelsea for my money still was slightly suspect then.

    Agree with you here LRD, hes been the better half of the Terry + Carvalho partnership, however only for a short period of time.

    Longetivity makes players good, not spells. Ala Giggs for you LRD and Gerrard for us.

    If it weren't for Kings knees he'd be a far better defender than Carvalho.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:07 pm

    L r dd wrote:Why do you think this? I don't get it. Carvalho is a pretty clumsy defender sometimes and can be very dodgy. He's always been rated very high but he's had one and a half good seasons with Chelsea for my money still was slightly suspect then.

    Ranks with the best ball playing CBs I have ever seen. Up there with Laurent Blanc and the like.

    I'm with Bluenine that Carvalho is one of the most gifted of his generation.
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    Post by Super Progress Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:44 am

    The Professor wrote:
    L r dd wrote:Why do you think this? I don't get it. Carvalho is a pretty clumsy defender sometimes and can be very dodgy. He's always been rated very high but he's had one and a half good seasons with Chelsea for my money still was slightly suspect then.

    Ranks with the best ball playing CBs I have ever seen. Up there with Laurent Blanc and the like.

    I'm with Bluenine that Carvalho is one of the most gifted of his generation.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:48 am

    Yakubu raped him.
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    Post by L r dd Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:01 pm

    Super Cassano wrote:
    The Professor wrote:
    L r dd wrote:Why do you think this? I don't get it. Carvalho is a pretty clumsy defender sometimes and can be very dodgy. He's always been rated very high but he's had one and a half good seasons with Chelsea for my money still was slightly suspect then.

    Ranks with the best ball playing CBs I have ever seen. Up there with Laurent Blanc and the like.

    I'm with Bluenine that Carvalho is one of the most gifted of his generation.
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    I think people obviously go more on a name than consistent performances. He's not bad on the ball but hardly out of this world. Not very skillful, he's got a few goals in his time but mostly headers. I don't think many will class him as one of the best defenders to have graced the prem at all. And this summer there was talk of him going and nobody seemed too fussed. Not to mention he was 3rd choice CB at Chelsea behind Gallas and Terry for a year... people really do come out with strange things sometimes.
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    Post by toon h Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:58 pm

    both Inter and Chelsea defended very well against Barcelona in the last games they played each other. I would really though feel that you should also heap praise on their midfields for making 90 minute cameos as defenders.

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