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    Post by Axeslammer Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:48 pm

    Antarion wrote:
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    kas wrote:This was something Marca put out a few days back, but I hope it's not finalised.

    For some reason (is it based purely on FIFA rankings? ) all the shite European teams (bar Holland and to a certain extent Portugal) have gone into Pot 2, while Pot 3 looks much stronger with all the African and a couple of South American teams there.

    If it stays like this there'll be lots of potential Groups of Death. Good from a neutral's perspective, but it'll result in some top teams getting knocked out early, and garbage teams ending up in the knockout stages.

    The pots (except pot 1) are not based on strength. Thats why "shit" teams are in pot 2. It's so that the confederations are separated. And it wouldnt really matter if you switch pot 2 with pot 3 Razz
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    It wouldn't matter if you switch any 2 pots : they're still drawing one team from each pot....

    The only thing that matters is if the members of a pot are changed.
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    Post by bluenine Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:30 pm

    Teams which I want Italy to avoid...

    Pot2: Holland/Serbia
    Pot3: Ivory Coast / Ghana / Chile
    Pot4: South Korea / Australia / Mexico

    Worst possible group: Italy, Serbia, Ivory Coast, Mexico

    But then, you gotta win such groups to win the world cup.... so it doesn't really matter.
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    Post by Fey Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:46 pm

    Puro wrote:
    Fey wrote:Okay, as things stand the seedings are like this! And I believe the draw will be in a few weeks.

    FIRST POT: South Africa, Spain, Brazil, Italy, Germany, Argentina, England, France

    SECOND POT: Netherlands, Portugal, Slovenia, Switzerland, Greece, Serbia, Denmark, Slovakia

    THIRD POT: Ivory Coast, Ghana, Cameroon, Nigeria, Algeria, Paraguay, Chile, Uruguay / Costa Rica

    FOURTH POT: Japan, South Korea, North Korea, Australia, New Zealand, USA, Mexico and Honduras.

    Pot three looks stronger then two, so Holland will be in the Group of Death as always.

    In this thread you can also predict your favourite possible group and also the group Germany will be in!

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    Alright Fey, you know I like you, but Holland SHOULD be in one of the toughest groups in the WC since you were practically given a free pass to South Africa 2010.

    The pots have nothing to do with relative strengths of the countries, but rather continent affiliation. IF we were to judge actual strengths of the given pots, then pot 4 (them Concacaf and AFC teams) is stronger than pot 2 (where the Euro shite lies, bar Portugal and Holland of course).

    Portugal or even Holland should be top seeds instead of England. Some people will make the case "but England have been to the last two quarterfinals in the WCs"...BULL FUCKING SHITE! England were given a HUGE push by the refs to make it to the quarterfinal. Remember that Ecuador game last time, and the refs givings Becks like 20 free kicks in the game?

    Just for fun I'd like to see our English friends get Portugal, Chile, and a CONCACAF team. It's too bad that they don't get an African team along with a South American team. Lucky c**ts! The World Cup draw thread! - Page 2 F_biggri The World Cup draw thread! - Page 2 F_ale

    By the way Fey, who's that in your avatar? Pretty please, is that Vida Guerra? name please. The World Cup draw thread! - Page 2 F_biggri The World Cup draw thread! - Page 2 F_ale

    Holland is always in the toughest group! And perhaps Holland got a bye in the qualifiers..but thats cause of to much Euro shite Puro The World Cup draw thread! - Page 2 F_biggri The World Cup draw thread! - Page 2 F_ale Not Holland's fault.

    On the other hand..you should be able to beat them all like Bluenine says though its better not to win a group of death, better be a slow starter. Fact

    I dont rate Holland really high, but are Italy, France, Argentina, South Africa and Germany really better then Holland? I doubt it. You do underrate England though. I rate them highly this time, not cause they are so much better this time, but the rest is all very average. I fear pot 3 more tbh. It should be an exciting WC, after the dissapointing one in Germany. I expect many upsets since most teams are all equal.
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    Post by bluenine Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:50 am

    Isn't it this week? Should be fun!
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    Post by fcb Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:01 pm

    Yup, on Friday.
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    Post by Axeslammer Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:08 pm

    what are the rules of drawing more than one team from the some continent into the same group ?

    And what changes have they made this time to make it easier for Adidas and Nike Germany and Brazil to make the final ?
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    Post by Black Magic Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:23 pm

    Yeah because the Dutch are repping Russell Athletic jerseys arent they.
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Tue Dec 01, 2009 6:53 pm

    Provisional kick off times for group games are 16:00 and 19:30 Grr

    Why 16:00 ? Should be 17:00 !
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Tue Dec 01, 2009 6:54 pm

    Axeslammer wrote:what changes have they made this time to make it easier for Adidas and Nike Germany and Brazil to make the final ?

    They'll make sure one of them draws Holland <Ale>
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    Post by Axeslammer Tue Dec 01, 2009 7:28 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    Axeslammer wrote:what changes have they made this time to make it easier for Adidas and Nike Germany and Brazil to make the final ?

    They'll make sure one of them draws Holland <Ale>

    You can bet your house on that *not* happening Ale
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    Post by 110% Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:39 am

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:Provisional kick off times for group games are 16:00 and 19:30 Grr

    Why 16:00 ? Should be 17:00 !

    Is that UK times?
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    Post by Fey Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:53 am

    I have a feeling we are gonna get Germany, please let it be true! In 2004 we had a build-up of more then 6 months for that game with them, every week one German player got highlighted and mocked obviously. They should do that again.

    For the ones that want to watch this draw event, bare in mind its 3 hours or so with the usual bullshit.
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    Post by fcb Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:00 am

    The final seeding pots:

    One: Argentina, Brazil, England, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, South Africa, Spain.

    Two: Australia, Honduras, Japan, Korea DPR, Mexico, New Zealand, South Korea, USA.

    Three: Algeria, Cameroon, Chile, Ghana, Ivory Coast, Nigeria, Paraguay, Uruguay.

    Four: Denmark, France, Greece, Portugal, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Switzerland.


    Looking at the African teams in Pot 3 and some of the European teams in Pot 4, at least one Group of death is inevitable.
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    Post by debaser Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:08 am

    Possibility of a Group of Life too...e.g. South Africa, NZ, Algeria, Slovenia

    Hope SA get a decent group as it's good for hosts to at least get through to KOs
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    Post by Antarion Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:13 am

    So finally Holland get into pot 1.

    Africa with South America together is also a good choice. Balanced groups, good thing.
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    Post by Fey Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:15 am

    Where did you get this Kas? Is this for Realz? Looks better then the one I copied from Marca. Lucky Germans, just when I thought we would get them and HUMILIATE them again!

    Now watch us get France or POrntugal
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    Post by fcb Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:18 am

    It's from F365, they claim it's official. The Marca one they posted a couple of weeks back was their prediction anyway, so it's changed since then.
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    Post by Kroos Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:21 am

    omg so many shit teams at the world cup
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    Post by Axeslammer Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:36 am

    Axeslammer wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    Axeslammer wrote:what changes have they made this time to make it easier for Adidas and Nike Germany and Brazil to make the final ?

    They'll make sure one of them draws Holland <Ale>

    You can bet your house on that *not* happening Ale

    Right as usual ok
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    Post by Fey Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:36 am

    It's for real since VI reported as well! Chinteresting the frogs are in pot 4..and since they got to the final last time I reckon it has a lot to do with Henry's handball!
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    Post by L r dd Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:47 am

    Going to be some tough groups. Hope we get Portugal in the group instead of the quarters. For all their boasting they havent come close to winning in 90 minutes against us in recent years.
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    Post by Fey Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:01 am

    Easy group for Holland:

    Netherlands
    New Zealand
    Algeria
    Denmark

    Tough group for Holland:

    Netherlands
    Australia
    Ivory coast
    Portugal
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    Post by Di Caniooooo! Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:25 pm

    Fey was just a little off on France Razz
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    Post by SuperMario Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:46 pm

    So basically IF we finally win a WC, it's because of Henry's cheating.
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    Post by Antarion Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:47 pm

    Today was the sample draw and they put in Ireland instead of France as a joke
    Poor Ireland, now they get make fun of from the official sides

    lol!
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    Post by SuperMario Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:50 pm

    lol!

    they deserve tht for being poor losers.
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    Post by Fey Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:53 pm

    Di Caniooooo! wrote:Fey was just a little off on France Razz

    Razz

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    Post by Axeslammer Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:59 pm

    Antarion wrote:Today was the sample draw and they put in Ireland instead of France as a joke
    Poor Ireland, now they get make fun of from the official sides

    lol!

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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:08 pm

    Özil wrote:omg so many shit teams at the world cup

    i agree, teams like New Zealand, Honduras and Germany shouldn't be there.
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:10 pm

    L r dd wrote:Going to be some tough groups. Hope we get Portugal in the group instead of the quarters. For all their boasting they havent come close to winning in 90 minutes against us in recent years.

    I reckon if you did get them, you'd probably get revenge, like you did against Argentina in 2002.

    When was the last time England beat a big team in a competitive game?

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