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    so whats Rooney doing this season?

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    Post by Kroos Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:11 am

    i know he scored 3 goals against the last in your league, and some meaningless goals (so not the first goal in a match, he scores the 3rd or 4th goal in a game when the game is already decided )


    oh and in the cl, impressive stuff

    0 goals 0 assists
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    Post by Since 1888 Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:15 am

    How is Klose doing?
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    Post by Kroos Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:21 am

    Since 1888 wrote:How is Klose doing?

    i would never allow me to compare rooney and klose, because only the likes of messi and c.ronaldo in the same heights to rooney Rolling Eyes
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    Post by COTR Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:23 am

    I think he is currently fighting it out with Drogba for player of the season

    But yeah apart from that he has only scored 11 in 14 in the league
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    Post by Kroos Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:35 am

    COTR #6 wrote:I think he is currently fighting it out with Drogba for player of the season

    But yeah apart from that he has only scored 11 in 14 in the league


    like i said, most of his goals meaningless, and against smaller teams, he only scored against arsenal and mancity

    and we all know how low the quality is in the epl outside the usual suspects, just look at the uefa cup

    overall thats just not good enough compared to his hype
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    Post by COTR Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:43 am

    Özil wrote:
    COTR #6 wrote:I think he is currently fighting it out with Drogba for player of the season

    But yeah apart from that he has only scored 11 in 14 in the league


    like i said, most of his goals meaningless, and against smaller teams, he only scored against arsenal and mancity

    and we all know how low the quality is in the epl outside the usual suspects, just look at the uefa cup

    overall thats just not good enough compared to his hype

    So most goals are meaningless apart from the ones which are not meaningless and most of the teams in the league are meaningless apart from the few which aren't. Rooney has scored a few goals against the non meaningless teams but he should really be scoring ten goals against these teams like all the other top strikers in the world would ?

    Am I along the right lines here Otto ?
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    Post by Kroos Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:48 am

    no rooney is a player out of this world, an upcoming wpoty, a player who can lead england to wc glory, so he must deliver more than just normal players

    whey is not defoe battling it out with torres, he scored the same amout of goals for a smaller club!!!
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    Post by COTR Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:54 am

    COTR #6 wrote:I think he is currently fighting it out with Drogba for player of the season

    But yeah apart from that he has only scored 11 in 14 in the league

    Bump

    You seem to have missed it the first time


    Football is about more than goal stats Otto
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:01 pm

    Özil wrote:
    Since 1888 wrote:How is Klose doing?

    i would never allow me to compare rooney and klose, because only the likes of messi and c.ronaldo in the same heights to rooney Rolling Eyes

    The Polish scaffolder's World Cup record:


    Group - 6 apps 9 goals

    Knockout - 8 apps 1 goal


    Rooney
    only does it against small teams ?

    so whats Rooney doing this season? Saudi_arabia_squad
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    Post by Kroos Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:02 pm

    for strikers its very important (and rooney is playing as a striker this season), hes the mainstriker

    yeah i know you are talking about the so called "working rate", but no one rates ballack about his working rate (and hes a midfielder), it looks only chelsea rates him
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    Post by COTR Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:11 pm

    Özil wrote:

    yeah i know you are talking about the so called "working rate", but no one rates ballack about his working rate (and hes a midfielder), it looks only chelsea rates him

    lol!


    WTF is this

    I'm not even sure Ancelotti does rate him Otto. He spends a good bit of time on the bench
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    Post by Kroos Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:16 pm

    hmm hes always a starter, only after injurys he becomes some rest

    hes good enough to bench malouda and j.cole
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    Post by Tom Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:34 pm

    he doesnt start for us, he's not good enough
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    Post by Kroos Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:39 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    Özil wrote:
    Since 1888 wrote:How is Klose doing?

    i would never allow me to compare rooney and klose, because only the likes of messi and c.ronaldo in the same heights to rooney Rolling Eyes

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    Group - 6 apps 9 goals

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    Rooney
    only does it against small teams ?

    so whats Rooney doing this season? Saudi_arabia_squad

    klose has so much more done than rooney, englands pretty good at making money for the league and hyping players, that the rest of the world believes it
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    Post by COTR Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:41 pm

    Özil wrote:

    klose has so much more done than rooney, englands pretty good at making money for the league and hyping players, that the rest of the world is believes it

    Biggrin


    Well you are certainly providing the entertainment this morning Otto

    But Yes I do agree that England does appear to be smarter than the rest of the world
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    Post by rosenthal Sun Dec 06, 2009 2:15 pm

    COTR #6 wrote:I think he is currently fighting it out with Drogba for player of the season

    Not sure i agree about that, well he certainly wouldn't if he weren't a United player. Drogba and Fabregas have been much better,
    more a matter of whether he'd get into the team of the season in front of Defoe at this point.
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    Post by Kimbo Sun Dec 06, 2009 2:29 pm

    rosenthal wrote:
    COTR #6 wrote:I think he is currently fighting it out with Drogba for player of the season

    Not sure i agree about that, well he certainly wouldn't if he weren't a United player. Drogba and Fabregas have been much better,
    more a matter of whether he'd get into the team of the season in front of Defoe at this point.

    I'll answer that for you, yes he would.
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    Post by L r dd Sun Dec 06, 2009 2:31 pm

    I rate Defoe, but 8 of his goals have came in 2 games. He hasnt been outstanding in enough games.
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    Post by Isco Benny Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:39 am

    What is the point of this thread?

    Ozil + Otto's complaints were that Rooney didn't score enough goals.

    So this year he scored more goals in World Cup qualifying than any German striker, only second to Gekas is the European top scorer category, but without having had the luxury of taking penalties

    He has now also scored 11 in 14 in the Premiership, and God only knows how many assists and potential goal creating chances.

    But now this isn't enough for our German pals.

    Oh no - he's not scored enough in the Champions League / the teams he's scored against are not of sufficient quality etc etc.

    That's fine, keep moving the goalposts, it won't save you or the Mannshaft for when R Day is finally upon you.
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    Post by Kroos Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:01 pm

    lol he scored against croatioa the 3rd and the 5th goal when you look at the games, then 2 goals against andorra and kasachstan, what an achievement lol!

    my point is: this guy deserves not his hype, manu looks not the same without ronaldo, rooney cannot fill the gap

    and he has no assists in the EPL
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    Post by Parks lives Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:19 pm

    You are a special kind of idiot Ozil.
    Against Croatia Rooney not only scored two, he created two of the other goals as well. I bet you've never even seen the game.

    As for direct assists, he's had less than usual seasons so far but even on Saturday he was involved in 3 of the 4 goals, with secondary assists in 3 of them.
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    Post by Isco Benny Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:27 pm

    Özil wrote:lol he scored against croatioa the 3rd and the 5th goal when you look at the games, then 2 goals against andorra and kasachstan, what an achievement so whats Rooney doing this season? Lol

    my point is: this guy deserves not his hype, manu looks not the same without ronaldo, rooney cannot fill the gap

    and he has no assists in the EPL


    Perhaps you'd like to list all the teams that Klose has scored against during his international career?

    Five of his WC goals were against Saudi Arabia FFS,

    he's only ever scored 1 goal in knock out stages of the World Cup,

    and yet you Germans think he's the best thing to have ever come out of Poland.

    You're a fickle bunch hey?

    Regarding Manchester United - of course they're going to suffer losing a player of Ronaldo's calibre.

    But they're still a formidable force both in the EPL and in Europe.

    Considerably stronger than Bayern Munich for example. Who with, or without Klose, are playing like a pile of horse manure.
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    Post by Tweesus Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:41 pm

    What bizarre timing for a thread like this scratch
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    Post by Puro Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:15 pm

    Özil wrote:i know he scored 3 goals against the last in your league, and some meaningless goals (so not the first goal in a match, he scores the 3rd or 4th goal in a game when the game is already decided )


    oh and in the cl, impressive stuff

    0 goals 0 assists

    Rooney is basically gifted PK's so that no one can wonder anymore why he isn't scoring goals even against piss poor teams from the EPL. England have no goalies, overrated central defenders, two half decent fullbacks, NO MIDFIELD, one decent striker in Defoe, AND NO BENCH!

    BUT THEY HAVE A GREAT MANAGER! so don't write Capello out, but he's got his work cut out for him managing a bunch of talentless hoofers.
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:31 pm

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    Post by Kimbo Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:24 pm

    Puro wrote:
    Özil wrote:i know he scored 3 goals against the last in your league, and some meaningless goals (so not the first goal in a match, he scores the 3rd or 4th goal in a game when the game is already decided )


    oh and in the cl, impressive stuff

    0 goals 0 assists

    Rooney is basically gifted PK's so that no one can wonder anymore why he isn't scoring goals even against piss poor teams from the EPL. England have no goalies, overrated central defenders, two half decent fullbacks, NO MIDFIELD, one decent striker in Defoe, AND NO BENCH!

    BUT THEY HAVE A GREAT MANAGER! so don't write Capello out, but he's got his work cut out for him managing a bunch of talentless hoofers.

    Hold on, Rooney has scored only 2 penalties this season, and i haven't even heard that they were controversial. scratch
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    Post by Aristoskank Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:35 pm

    The one against Arsenal was a dive.
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    Post by L r dd Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:36 pm

    He also scored a non penalty in the same game he scored two pens, just incase some nut on a forum accused him of needing pens to score against piss poor teams.
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    Post by L r dd Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:37 pm

    Xmas Package wrote:The one against Arsenal was a dive.

    Are you claiming Arsenal are a piss poor team?





    oh wait silly question
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    Post by Aristoskank Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:54 pm

    Arsenal lost against Sunderland, who are apparently managed by an incompetent and corrupt English fucko, so must therefore be a piss poor team.

    Thus, Arsenal < Piss poor.


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