Russian Premier League 2010

...got underway tonight - CSKA beat Amkar Perm 1-0 with Honda scoring in the 90th min.


I think Lokomotiv might win it .

They've only won it twice - in 2002 and 2004 when Yuri Semin was manager.

They were 4th last season but if you did a league table from when Semin took over they were probably 1st.

His last full season was with Dynamo Kiev and they won the league.

My money's on Spartak. Wouldn't be surprised if Lokomotiv wins it though.

Why not CSKA or Rubin...the former have added Honda who was great in the Dutch league (ok, not 100% reliable way to judge a player) and looked very good in the CL game against Sevilla. Plus they still have Krasic and Dzagoev. And Rubin have held on to everyone except Chori Dominguez.

Krasic will probably leave in the summer though.

kas wrote:Why not CSKA or Rubin...the former have added Honda who was great in the Dutch league (ok, not 100% reliable way to judge a player) and looked very good in the CL game against Sevilla. Plus they still have Krasic and Dzagoev. And Rubin have held on to everyone except Chori Dominguez.

...and added Fatih Tekke.

Rubin v Lokomotiv is 0-0 after 53 mins.

Rubin Kazan 2 - 0 Lokomotiv Moscow
Andrey Gorbanets - 87'
Aleksandr Bukharov - 90'

So close but so far from a great result !

At least they have one of the toughest fixtures out of the way.


Bukharov has looked very impressive whenever I've seen him and will put real pressure on Pav and Pog for National Team place.

Very good lone striker.

I wish ESPN had shown this

Which Russian striker do you rate most highly Pierre?

Allez les rouges wrote:Which Russian striker do you rate most highly Pierre?

Pavlyuchenko

What do you think of Pogrebnyak?

Allez les rouges wrote:What do you think of Pogrebnyak?

A bit crude.

Slow but strong and two footed with a decent strike.

Certainly true – two-footed and an excellent shot. For some reason I always preferred him to Pav, looked almost unplayable at times in the UEFA Cup-winning season but hasn't really kicked on...

Allez les rouges wrote:Certainly true – two-footed and an excellent shot. For some reason I always preferred him to Pav, looked almost unplayable at times in the UEFA Cup-winning season but hasn't really kicked on...

Pog, Pav, Bukharov, Arshavin are all more 2 footed than the average bear.

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Allez les rouges wrote:Certainly true – two-footed and an excellent shot. For some reason I always preferred him to Pav, looked almost unplayable at times in the UEFA Cup-winning season but hasn't really kicked on...

Pog, Pav, Bukharov, Arshavin are all more 2 footed than the average bear.

Makes you wonder if they place a lot of emphasis on that in their youth sides.

I prefer Pav to Pog for the same reason I prefer Iaquinta to Amauri.

The Santa Stalker wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Allez les rouges wrote:Certainly true – two-footed and an excellent shot. For some reason I always preferred him to Pav, looked almost unplayable at times in the UEFA Cup-winning season but hasn't really kicked on...

Pog, Pav, Bukharov, Arshavin are all more 2 footed than the average bear.

Makes you wonder if they place a lot of emphasis on that in their youth sides.

I prefer Pav to Pog for the same reason I prefer Iaquinta to Amauri.

Was thinking that myself. Also want to know what Russia has done recently that has made the current wave of talents come to surface.

Think its to do with indoor football - you need to get out of tight spaces so being two footed helps ?

The weather would suggest indoor football (therefore on a small pitch too).

The only one who looks one footed is Zhirkov who happens to be great with the outside of the boot - replacing his right foot.

Even big ugly CB's from Russia/Lithuania who play for CSKA are very tidy on the ball.

Pierre Littbarski wrote:Think its to do with indoor football - you need to get out of tight spaces so being two footed helps ?

The weather would suggest indoor football (therefore on a small pitch too).

The only one who looks one footed is Zhirkov who happens to be great with the outside of the boot - replacing his right foot.

Even big ugly CB's from Russia/Lithuania who play for CSKA are very tidy on the ball.

I remember an interview Ronaldo made with danish tv 4-5 years ago and he was trying to explain why Brazilians were so good technically. He pointed at Futsal where they play with a heavier ball then normal indoors football which he believed help their technique and shot.

Does Russia have tradition for playing a lot of indoors football?

I think when you consider the tradition of Valery Lobanovsky and universality in Russia perhaps this is why Russian players are versatile. Holland has similar tradition I believe and they have some two footers as well.

Pierre Littbarski wrote:Rubin Kazan 2 - 0 Lokomotiv Moscow
Andrey Gorbanets - 87'
Aleksandr Bukharov - 90'

So close but so far from a great result !

At least they have one of the toughest fixtures out of the way.


Bukharov has looked very impressive whenever I've seen him and will put real pressure on Pav and Pog for National Team place.

Very good lone striker.

I wish ESPN had shown this

No you don't. It was awful, had it on in the background at a friend's house. Pitch was worse quality than you see in conference matches.

Six wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:Rubin Kazan 2 - 0 Lokomotiv Moscow
Andrey Gorbanets - 87'
Aleksandr Bukharov - 90'

So close but so far from a great result !

At least they have one of the toughest fixtures out of the way.


Bukharov has looked very impressive whenever I've seen him and will put real pressure on Pav and Pog for National Team place.

Very good lone striker.

I wish ESPN had shown this

No you don't. It was awful, had it on in the background at a friend's house. Pitch was worse quality than you see in conference matches.

I saw the pitch on EuroGoals - was like Vicarage Road.

Not quite Russia, but for anyone who's interested -

ex Everton player Craig Short is currently managing the most successful club side in Hungary - Ferencvaros. The club infact has an English Owner/Chairman.

They currently sit in 10th Place in the Hungarian Top Division

In fairness, Fradi have been on a downward slide for sometime.

This is the team that gave us the fabulous Zoltan Gera, amongst others

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Kolodin

Attributes
A resolute central defender known as 'the cannon' for his ability to shoot powerfully from distance, 27-year-old Denis Kolodin may be an unfamiliar face to those outside Russia given that, until Euro 2008, he had never appeared in a major tournament. Kolodin began his career as a striker, but was converted into first a midfielder before being settled into defence. His ability to strike a football ferociously from range was recognised at an early age when he was asked to test the stability of a newly built shed at his secondary school, "The Gazprom Academy." It promptly collapsed killing three badgers and a horse.





My tip for the title, Lokomotiv, won 3-0 today with 2 from Aliyev on his home debut following his signing from Dynamo Kiev

Nice stream for Zenit vs Spartak match - it's 0-1 in 25th minute: sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/79509

stinger wrote:Nice stream for Zenit vs Spartak match - it's 0-1 in 25th minute: sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/79509

Do Russian's not know the rules ?

The goal was clearly offside and no one appealed ?!

It was deffo Ari's goal as well - not Suchy or Welliton.

Poor 1st half, very good 2nd - Danny is so creative !

Rosina on too now.

Deserved late equaliser for Zenit. Excellent delivery from Rosina, it was a very tough ball for the defence to deal with.

Sheffield gunner wrote:Deserved late equaliser for Zenit. Excellent delivery from Rosina, it was a very tough ball for the defence to deal with.

Rosina was quality when he came on.

If Spaletti can fit him and Danny in to the starting lineup then they'll be contenders.

Kerzhakov was absolute gash - I can't believe Juande Ramos used to pick him ahead of Cheva

Tom Tomsk 0 - 1 Rubin Kazan
76' - Aleksandr Bukharov


14 yellow cards !!!

5 in the 1st 11 mins !!!

How was Danny Alves? We need him to regain form because he will be so important for us in SA

EM La Liga wrote:How was Danny Alves? We need him to regain form because he will be so important for us in SA

He was very impressive.

He has great vision and uses the outside of the boot very well - really entertaining.

What system do Portugal use now and does he start ?

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

EM La Liga wrote:How was Danny Alves? We need him to regain form because he will be so important for us in SA

He was very impressive.

He has great vision and uses the outside of the boot very well - really entertaining.

What system do Portugal use now and does he start ?

What was his dribbling and ball retention like?,We play that 4-5-1(CQ will tell you its 4-3-3 but it's really not).

Pierre have you been following Ariza Makukula in Turkey(22 (17) )?

Pierre, what do you think about the footballers who have come from Turkey?

And I'd like to say that Ariza Makukula is very strong striker.

Anzhi Makhachkala 1 - 2 CSKA Moscow

Andrey Streltsov - 11'
50' - Keisuke Honda
63' - Tomas Necid


Fucking hell, the Jap has settled quickly