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    Post by S4P Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:16 am

    I see the refs are helping Chelsea's march to the title again. Rolling Eyes
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:24 am

    S4P wrote:I see the refs are helping Chelsea's march to the title again. Rolling Eyes

    Non-Call for Mikel on Bale - CORRECT

    Malouda offside - CORRECT

    1st Yellow on Terry (Pavlyuchenko) - CORRECT

    2nd Yellow on Terry (Bale) - CORRECT

    Penalty on Terry for Handball - That's just karma Biggrin

    Lampard should've gone too - terrible tackle on Modric, and then stamped on Huddlestone immediately afterwards which is what kicked off the handbags.

    Pierre - would you still be saying the same about Luka Modric had Alex Song been there on Wednesday & Michael Essien yesterday?


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    Post by S4P Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:25 am

    Özil wrote:lol chelsea dont deserve the title, neither do manu

    this will be the worst english champion since a decade

    We've played most of this season without our best player (Essien), instead having to field the old legs of Ballack & Deco on a regular basis. Fortunately Malouda has hit form this season, otherwise we would have been nowhere near the title.

    If we win the league without having had Essien for most of it, I'd consider it a better achievement than either of the 2 previous winning campaigns (that doesn't mean that I think the team is better now than it was in 2004-06, but the achievement is certainly greater).
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    Post by S4P Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:26 am

    The Santa Stalker™️ wrote:
    S4P wrote:I see the refs are helping Chelsea's march to the title again. Rolling Eyes

    Non-Call for Mikel on Bale - CORRECT

    Malouda offside - CORRECT

    1st Yellow on Terry (Pavlyuchenko) - CORRECT

    2nd Yellow on Terry (Bale) - CORRECT

    Penalty on Terry for Handball - That's just karma Biggrin

    Lampard should've gone too - terrible tackle on Modric, and then stamped on Huddlestone immediately afterwards which is what kicked off the handbags.

    Lerd and a few others were frequently posting that referee failures to give decisions against us had decided the title.
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    Post by Aristoskank Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:33 am

    One game in which the odd decision went against you doesn't really refute that.

    But the top three this season have largely been the top three because of referees.
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:35 am

    The Santa Stalker™️ wrote:
    Lampard should've gone too - terrible tackle on Modric, and then stamped on Huddlestone immediately afterwards which is what kicked off the handbags.

    I didn't see any of that as it wasn't in MOTD's highlights Rolling Eyes

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    Pierre - would you still be saying the same about Luka Modric had Alex Song been there on Wednesday & Michael Essien yesterday?

    Good point.

    I noticed from the highlights too that Modric seemed to be getting in quite a few advanced positions still.
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    Post by L r dd Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:35 am

    Bolton were denied two clear pens. United one clear pen and you scored a goal 3 hundred metres offside. in the first chelsea united game you scored a goal from an unjust free kick and then had 3 fouls during the free kick. I don't think Terry RIGHTFULLY getting sent off or a debateable pen changes any of that dude. Mikel on Bale looked a pen to me BTW. Spurs should have won 6-0 would have helped the GD but hopefully it wont come down to that.
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:37 am

    S4P wrote:
    We've played most of this season without our best player (Essien)

    scratch

    Everyone knows JT and Frank are the heartbeat of that Chelsea side.
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:38 am

    L r dd wrote:Bolton were denied two clear pens. United one clear pen and you scored a goal 3 hundred metres offside. in the first chelsea united game you scored a goal from an unjust free kick and then had 3 fouls during the free kick. I don't think Terry RIGHTFULLY getting sent off or a debateable pen changes any of that dude. Mikel on Bale looked a pen to me BTW. Spurs should have won 6-0 would have helped the GD but hopefully it wont come down to that.

    ...and me.
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    Post by Aristoskank Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:42 am

    The Santa Stalker™ wrote:Pierre - would you still be saying the same about Luka Modric had Alex Song been there on Wednesday & Michael Essien yesterday?

    I cannot BELIEVE you just put Song and Essien on a parallel.


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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:44 am

    Dr Adel Sabah wrote:
    The Santa Stalker™️ wrote:Pierre - would you still be saying the same about Luka Modric had Alex Song been there on Wednesday & Michael Essien yesterday?

    I cannot BELIEVE you just put Song and Essien on a parallel.


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    Essien is better but they're very different.

    Song is good at holding in front of back 4 and passing whereas Essien is box to box.

    I think Essien would be more likely to have exposed Modric as CM.
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    Post by Dualist Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:46 am

    Dr Adel Sabah wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:Doesn't say much for Chelsea's 3 man midfield although one of those is Mikel and one is a striker (great striker's goal).

    I did think when I was watching Loompard's goal 'that was just like a Van Nistelrooy goal'.

    He's the most attack-minded midfielder in the league.

    Deco and Mikel were given the defensive duties, but had bad days at office. Ballack came on for Mikel and didn't improve much defensively. But provided a lovely ball to Frank Lampard to score.

    Lampard's stats this season:
    10 open play goals + 8 penalties = 18 goals
    13 assists.

    That's 31 goals contributed in the league. Equaling Cesc Fabregas's combined g+a figures for this season.

    Much more disappointed by Joe Cole (well played Assou-Ekotto) and Malouda (Kaboul had him easy). Anelka has carried over his bad form this season. Drogba missed few chances. Zhirkov alone was giving some life, with no pressure/tracking back by Bentley.

    With a no-show by most of Chelsea players, Lampard can't do much on his own..
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    Post by Aristoskank Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:52 am

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    Dr Adel Sabah wrote:
    The Santa Stalker™ wrote:Pierre - would you still be saying the same about Luka Modric had Alex Song been there on Wednesday & Michael Essien yesterday?

    I cannot BELIEVE you just put Song and Essien on a parallel.


    DohDohDohDohDohDoh

    Essien is better but they're very different.

    Song is good at holding in front of back 4 and passing whereas Essien is box to box.

    I think Essien would be more likely to have exposed Modric as CM.

    Ale

    Much more likely in my opinion. Song's not bad at defending, but he isn't up to much against dribblers of Modric's quality. He's a bit flat-footed, not that quick from a standing/turning start. I'm as surprised as you that Modric is putting in a good show from CM, but I don't think Song would have offered Arsenal much defensively on Wednesday, or at least not against Modric.
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    Post by L r dd Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:54 am

    Think the key was booting out the Irishman he's a lot happier when he scores these days

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    Post by Aristoskank Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:55 am

    That's ridiculous.
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    Post by EM Seleção e Selecção Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:55 am

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    To think Messi would struggle in this league Wink
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    Post by EM Seleção e Selecção Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:57 am

    Fenomeno wrote:Destined for a big big club, this boy Bale.
    Ryan Giggs real replacement?
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    Post by L r dd Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:58 am

    EM La Liga wrote:
    Fenomeno wrote:Destined for a big big club, this boy Bale.
    Ryan Giggs real replacement?

    Man how i'd love to give back Carrick and Berbatov for Gomes and Bale
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    Post by EM Seleção e Selecção Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:59 am

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:Fair play to Redknapp - I really didn't think you could play Modric as part of a 2 man CM in today's EPL.

    You have to credit managers who make these decisions rather than just going with the norm.

    Doesn't say much for Chelsea's 3 man midfield although one of those is Mikel and one is a striker (great striker's goal).

    I think it would still be a problem to play Modric in midfield against the more physical sides - especially away from home.



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    Post by EM Seleção e Selecção Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:01 pm

    L r dd wrote:
    EM La Liga wrote:
    Fenomeno wrote:Destined for a big big club, this boy Bale.
    Ryan Giggs real replacement?

    Man how i'd love to give back Carrick and Berbatov for Gomes and Bale
    throw Modric into the deal because I see him as the only guy who can replace Scholes IMHO.
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    Post by L r dd Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:05 pm

    Jesus Spurs have so many good players...they might win the title next year.
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    Post by Dualist Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:08 pm

    Modric hasn't been all that great attacking wise. He doesn't create any chances, that's evident in both the big games. Kept it to simple distribution. He isn't having a good season. Maybe he isn't interested anymore.

    In Glory glory & other THFC forums, they think he should be sold to a big club and get good money. Much rather him than Bale or Gomes..
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    Post by L r dd Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:10 pm

    Dualist wrote:Modric hasn't been all that great attacking wise. He doesn't create any chances, that's evident in both the big games. Kept it to simple distribution. He isn't having a good season. Maybe he isn't interested anymore.

    In Glory glory & other THFC forums, they think he should be sold to a big club and get good money. Much rather him than Bale or Gomes..

    What the fuck?
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    Post by stinger Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:11 pm

    Thing is, when Palacios (but wasn't he supoosed to be interested in moving to bigger club already) and Huddlestone are healthy they will be playing as CMs, Modrić was used as LM by Harry (which was smart), but now Bale looks great there and Assoue Ekotto as LB give them good balance. And Harry would never play 4-2-3-1 with Modrić as AM.
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    Post by Dualist Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:12 pm

    Question
    L r dd wrote:
    Dualist wrote:Modric hasn't been all that great attacking wise. He doesn't create any chances, that's evident in both the big games. Kept it to simple distribution. He isn't having a good season. Maybe he isn't interested anymore.

    In Glory glory & other THFC forums, they think he should be sold to a big club and get good money. Much rather him than Bale or Gomes..

    What the fuck?
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    Post by EM Seleção e Selecção Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:12 pm

    L r dd wrote:Jesus Spurs have so many good players...they might win the title next year.
    No chance.
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    Post by L r dd Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:13 pm

    Not to keen on that Palacios fella he struggles to pass the ball sometimes. Think Spurs have many underated or talented potential top bracket players but he's one who's overated, bit like Corluka. Not saying crap or anything though.
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    Post by L r dd Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:14 pm

    Dualist wrote:Question
    L r dd wrote:
    Dualist wrote:Modric hasn't been all that great attacking wise. He doesn't create any chances, that's evident in both the big games. Kept it to simple distribution. He isn't having a good season. Maybe he isn't interested anymore.

    In Glory glory & other THFC forums, they think he should be sold to a big club and get good money. Much rather him than Bale or Gomes..

    What the fuck?

    Most bizarre post i seen in a few weeks mate. I cant quite get my head around it.
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    Post by debaser Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:16 pm

    L r dd wrote:Jesus Spurs have so many good players...they might win the title next year.

    If they do make the CL, that could well be a downer on their league form. They may not be ready to compete on two fronts yet.

    Anyway, Bale's not going to keep up this form forever and he's been carrying them the last few weeks Wink
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    Post by debaser Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:19 pm

    L r dd wrote:
    Dualist wrote:Question
    L r dd wrote:
    Dualist wrote:Modric hasn't been all that great attacking wise. He doesn't create any chances, that's evident in both the big games. Kept it to simple distribution. He isn't having a good season. Maybe he isn't interested anymore.

    In Glory glory & other THFC forums, they think he should be sold to a big club and get good money. Much rather him than Bale or Gomes..

    What the fuck?

    Most bizarre post i seen in a few weeks mate. I cant quite get my head around it.

    Modric was good what I saw yesterday, but he's not been on great form otherwise. His league stats are 2 goals, 3 assists. Not particularly great for a player in his position, even if he has had injuries.

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