Premier League discussion 17/18/19/21 April 2010

Manuel has a wrist injury apparently. As long as we get 3 points I don't care how we play. But Silvestre in front of Fabianski is a fearful prospect.

Lrdd,
I'm not comparing Modric to Lennon, even if they both primarily played as wingers in majority of the games. Modric does play CM time to time. Just saying Lennon has been phenomenal this season.

Super de la red,
Modric was disappointing in CM and was moved to wings. Before being moved back to CM in absence of Palacios. Has surpassed expectations in last two games with his work ethic. But isn't quite attacking and has been conservative. Still doesn't make good use of his vision. But will hopefully come in time as others have said. At the moment, he is cutting out mistakes. He gave needless penalties and fouls in the earlier CM stint.

Pierre,
Rooney, Saha and Ronaldo made up for RVN's absence. What is your point? Stats aren't conclusive and end all. But much better than use words to express uninformed opinions and agendas.

TheCrazy58 wrote:Manuel has a wrist injury apparently. As long as we get 3 points I don't care how we play. But Silvestre in front of Fabianski is a fearful prospect.

This is clearly a cover up. For Manuel to have a wrist injury, he would have actually had to save some shots. We all know this cannot be true.

Hlebagone wrote:

TheCrazy58 wrote:Manuel has a wrist injury apparently. As long as we get 3 points I don't care how we play. But Silvestre in front of Fabianski is a fearful prospect.

This is clearly a cover up. For Manuel to have a wrist injury, he would have actually had to save some shots. We all know this cannot be true.

I disagree. We may get a new No.1 keeper in the summer, but there is absolutely no point in switching the keeper at this stage in the season especially after yesterday's events. Fabianski doesn't have the match awareness or nerves, that's been proved time and again and he has been a liability every time he's played for us this season - have everyone forgotten Porto first leg already? - and I don't understand this insanity of preferring him to Manuel just because he isn't Manuel.

That said Manuel may be having a bad time mentally after Barca and Spurs (though I didn't think it was all his fault then) and AW may have seen fit to give him a break. But a switch at this stage in the season is absolutely crazy.

TheCrazy58 wrote:

Hlebagone wrote:

TheCrazy58 wrote:Manuel has a wrist injury apparently. As long as we get 3 points I don't care how we play. But Silvestre in front of Fabianski is a fearful prospect.

This is clearly a cover up. For Manuel to have a wrist injury, he would have actually had to save some shots. We all know this cannot be true.

I disagree. We may get a new No.1 keeper in the summer, but there is absolutely no point in switching the keeper at this stage in the season especially after yesterday's events. Fabianski has been a liability every time he's played for us this season and I don't understand this insanity of preferring him to Manuel just because he isn't Manuel.

That said Manuel may be having a bad time mentally after Barca and Spurs (though I didn't think it was all his fault then) and AW may have seen fit to give him a break. But a switch at this stage in the season is absolutely crazy.

I agree. he probably does have a wrist injury.

Sol is the skipper today

TheCrazy58 wrote:Sol is the skipper today

You know what they say about Navy Sailors...

Dualist wrote:Lrdd,
I'm not comparing Modric to Lennon, even if they both primarily played as wingers in majority of the games. Modric does play CM time to time. Just saying Lennon has been phenomenal this season.

Super de la red,
Modric was disappointing in CM and was moved to wings. Before being moved back to CM in absence of Palacios. Has surpassed expectations in last two games with his work ethic. But isn't quite attacking and has been conservative. Still doesn't make good use of his vision. But will hopefully come in time as others have said. At the moment, he is cutting out mistakes. He gave needless penalties and fouls in the earlier CM stint.

Pierre,
Rooney, Saha and Ronaldo made up for RVN's absence. What is your point? Stats aren't conclusive and end all. But much better than use words to express uninformed opinions and agendas.

Not many Am's is able to be conservative when playing in that position. But obviously he won't be able to play with the same freedom because in modern football I have rarely seen it work. One exception was Makelele-Zidane but otherwise it just doesn't work. So if Modric can develop to become something like a deeplying midfield then that is just great because it will give Harry some options when he wants to change tactics.

Also about stats I just don't think football lends itself to stats like other sports(especially the American sports) and so while the temptation to use stats is of course great because it gives some answers they often tend to be flawed. Charles Reep's theories is good example of that. I leave with my favourite quote on stats that never gets tired(to me):

Statistics are like mini-skirts .. they give you good ideas but hide the most important parts; - Aberdeen boss Ebbe Skovdahl on Arild Stavrum having more shots on target than Henrik Larsson

I'm aware that stats could hide nuances of the game. But the chalkboard isn't just stat, but the passes on different position of the pitch. That's a good tool. Attacking play and end product cannot be encapsulated by words.

Observation is fine, but if it helps form skewed/imaginative assertions, it's better to use stats to clarify and cross-verify.

Walcott

FIFA 10

Walcott

WALCOTT!! 0 - 1

The Santa Stalker wrote:

TheCrazy58 wrote:Sol is the skipper today

You know what they say about Navy Sailors...

Nah if you want a bit of man love, Manchester's the place to be.

This Pepsi advert is so shit.

What happened to good World Cup ads

TheCrazy58 wrote:

The Santa Stalker wrote:

TheCrazy58 wrote:Sol is the skipper today

You know what they say about Navy Sailors...

Nah if you want a bit of man love, Manchester's the place to be.

a real man, u?

VanP to come on on the hour for Rosicky.

But AW will probably wait until 80th minute after Wigan had pummelled us

Did Wigan really beat Chelsea 3-1....Away form

Diaby

Silvestre!! 0 - 2

Could have been a penalty for Wigan. Nasri had a very slight tug on Watson's shirt. Barely enough to distract a player, but definite contact - very stupid from Nasri (who already picked up an unnecessary booking). For some reason Silvestre showed the attacker inside.

Diaby then missed a great chance when through on goal, and Silvestre scores a header from the resulting corner. Bad luck for Wigan.

And N'Zogbia misses a sitter straight from the kick-off.

L r dd wrote:Did Wigan really beat Chelsea 3-1....Away form

Liverpool as well, and got a point out of Man Citeh.

N'Zogshit!!!!


"That's the difference between near the bottom & near the top"

Hear that Kimbo

The Santa Stalker wrote:

L r dd wrote:Did Wigan really beat Chelsea 3-1....Away form

Liverpool as well, and got a point out of Man Citeh.

N'Zogshit!!!!


"That's the difference between near the bottom & near the top"

Hear that Kimbo

Lennon on the otherhand never misses. Get a grip TS, you're rapidly turning into a cockney ozil.

Pav missed a couple of pretty damn easy chances yesterday.

borocooper wrote:Pav missed a couple of pretty damn easy chances yesterday.

Was excellent otherwise.

"Re 1426: Joe Hart £8m, Chamakh free, Brede Hangeland £10m, Felipe Melo £15m. Sell Almunia and Fabianski, Schzeny as number two. Sell Rosicky/Diaby, Eduardo, Vela, Silvestre, Senderos, Clichy."

Fucking hell. Not the smartest chap.

Hlebagone wrote:"Re 1426: Joe Hart £8m, Chamakh free, Brede Hangeland £10m, Felipe Melo £15m. Sell Almunia and Fabianski, Schzeny as number two. Sell Rosicky/Diaby, Eduardo, Vela, Silvestre, Senderos, Clichy."

Fucking hell. Not the smartest chap.

Whatever happened to Vela?

The Santa Stalker wrote:

borocooper wrote:Pav missed a couple of pretty damn easy chances yesterday.

Was excellent otherwise.

So?

Still missed some damn easy chances. Which apparently is the difference between the top and bottom

Series of injuries didn't allow him to have time in the first team.
Wouldn't write him off just yet.

debaser wrote:Anyway, Bale's not going to keep up this form forever and he's been carrying them the last few weeks

I assure you, he's only going to get better.