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    Post by ginola999 Mon May 17, 2010 6:23 pm

    I think the powers that be at HSV only realised how good Jol was after he left. Having made a net profit of 20 mio euros during his season there, and competed on 3 fronts, they then went and spent a net 30 million euros and flopped. Jol's HSV only finshed 8 pts off the top and Magath had had an extra year at WOlfsburg to build his team. Surely had he stayed and spent the 30 mio as he wanted, he would have taken HSV close to the Bundesliga title.

    I don't think Jol left because he didn't thin they'd spend, but because he wanted full control over transfers, which he was given at Ajax. Jol lost his job at Tottenham because another man was buying the players and I suspect there was some disagreement over targets at HSV and this would have left him feeling uncomfortable. But I can't see him going back. He's transformed Ajax and has them playing superbly. And HSV now have a new D of F, so Jol would be in the same position again. Jol needs to be a manger, not just a coach. At Spurs he had one transfer window when he was in charge of transfers and that was at the start of the season when SPurs nearly finished 4th, having not been even in top 8 for close to a decade. At Ajax, other than Atouba, he's also been very good in the transfer market. He's known as an excellent head coach, but this is only because he's rarely had chance to prove himself as a manager, but in the short periods he has, he's shown real promise. HSV should have given him what he wanted.
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    Post by Axeslammer Mon May 17, 2010 6:59 pm

    Stiftung Haeschentest wrote:The board did make good on the promise to strengthen the squad. HSV have spent a net transfers sum of €30m on new players last summer. They have never, in their entire history, had a higher transfer deficit, Axe.

    They did, but *after* they had also fetched a new manager.

    I distinctly remember that when they had a falling out with Jol, it was about him not being able to strengthen/deepen the squad like he was promised....and the board publically told him that was not going to happen.

    The irony is that in the end they *did* spend the money, but under a way lesser manager. If they had told Jol they'd keep their word, they would have won the UEFA league this season.

    Just another blunder in a long line of blunders by the HSV board.

    I don't think Jol will be in a hurry to leave Amsterdam right now : he's building an excellent young and talented team over there....and I'm quite curious to see how well they'll do in his second year : I have high expectations.
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    Post by Ä Tue May 18, 2010 8:04 pm

    Hoogma had talks

    could not agree terms with HSV

    and is now OUT

    cheers

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    Daum could get the sack at Fener

    would be an excellent choice at HSV , me thinks
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    Post by chrissicross Tue May 18, 2010 8:12 pm

    Ä wrote:Hoogma had talks

    could not agree terms with HSV

    and is now OUT

    cheers
    Probably some Kompetenzgerangel with Siegenthaler...
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    Post by Ä Wed May 19, 2010 2:39 pm

    Hoogma now tells Bild that he was very keen to join HSV but could not agree financial terms

    ie: he was too greedy or HSV were too stingy

    still: FANTASTIC news cheers

    the BAD news is that HSV continue their DUTCHIFICATION

    Grr

    STRONG rumour:

    Affely will join HSV

    Grr Doh

    I am beginning to hope HSV get relegated

    Yikes

    they can join the Eredivise for all I care

    true Hamburgers will support St Pauli from now on Ale
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    Post by Axeslammer Wed May 19, 2010 2:49 pm

    HSV not good enough for Hoogma Laugh

    Can someone tell me who this Hoogma is anyway ?
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    Post by Ä Wed May 19, 2010 3:09 pm

    everything about Hoogma and the deal that never happened

    http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/bundesliga/1005/Artikel/hamburger-sv-sportchefsuche-nico-hoogma-absage-sergej-barbarez-kandidat-horst-becker.html

    unbelievably chaotic

    was für ein Chaosclub

    Laugh

    the supervisory board are said to have decided that IF the next manager is no success within ONE year, they will sack Hoffmann

    and hire Bierhoff

    Laugh

    SCHEISSLADEN

    UNVERBESSERLICH

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    according to Bild

    Affely will play for HSV next year

    the deal is done

    the Nederlander cost 9 million Euro

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    PREDICTION

    the Dutch c**t will tell Hamburg journalist at his FIRST press conference , that if Barcelona come calling he will join them IMMEDIALTEY

    Laugh

    Dutchies now at HSV:

    Ruud, who physically assaulted Torun

    Elia: who really just wants to join Real

    Matthijsen: who just attacked the HSV board as incompetent

    Castelen: ALWAYS injured

    Affely: probably a c**t as well

    Moniz: 110% clueless: threw away an entire season

    something tells me that the new manager will be Jol, Moniz, van Basten or Rijkaard

    Laugh

    HOPELESS, these Hamburgers

    Doh
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    Post by blutgraetsche Wed May 19, 2010 3:12 pm

    Holland Sport Verein cheers
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    Post by Fey Wed May 19, 2010 8:09 pm

    Affellay is a massive c**t

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    But decent player for HSV I guess, not much money either. French muslims go for 3 times that kind of money. Dunno if the difference between PSV and HSV is that big, but lets see if can play in such a league before he goes to the real top.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Wed May 19, 2010 8:39 pm

    Afellay is a fabulous defensive playmaker. If you use him right this could be an excellent buy. He almost went to barcelona but stupidly they didn't buy him.

    ok well done hoogma you did a great job
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    Post by blutgraetsche Wed May 19, 2010 8:49 pm

    Hoogma? He isn't even working there yet, if ever.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Wed May 19, 2010 9:04 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:Hoogma? He isn't even working there yet, if ever.
    o what ever... Laughing
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    Post by blutgraetsche Wed May 19, 2010 11:15 pm

    Otto will go apeshit now. Bierhoff to replace president Hoffman in 2011?

    http://sportbild.bild.de/SPORT/bundesliga/vereine/hamburger-sv/2010/05/19/oliver-bierhoff-soll-bernd-hoffmann/als-hsv-boss-abloesen.html


    Laugh

    You can't make this up....
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    Post by Ä Thu May 20, 2010 11:59 am

    blut

    I mentioned this "Bierhoff to HSV" above and still cannot believe it

    Grr

    Siegenthaler works for them now

    Klinsi advises them

    Löw will probably be their next-but-one-manager

    and Bierhoff is on his way

    Yikes

    you BREMER must be having the BEST TIME of your FAN-EXISTENCE

    I bet Bremen is the CENTRE of CHAMPAGNE CONSUMPTION these days

    if I was YOU, I would make MOPO or the ABENDBLATT my homepage

    and just check their HSV-news-update-ticker

    ALL THE TIME

    the HSV clowns are almost on a minutely suicide mission

    the truth is, you could buy the entire ORANJE for 10 Euro and sell them for 1 Gazillion Euro and they would still not be in conention to win the Bundesliga

    Yikes

    next season, St Pauli are likely to OVERTAKE HSV in the Liga

    at the latest, the season afterwards

    Doh

    the Holland Sport Verein should join the Eredivisie

    I am FINISHED with them

    Doh
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    Post by Ä Mon May 24, 2010 9:43 pm

    http://www.sueddeutsche.de/sport/fussball-bundesliga-veh-wird-trainer-des-hamburger-sv-1.948832

    HSV appoint VEH as the new coach Yikes

    no Schuster, Keegan, Daum....

    but VEH Doh

    the guy who just BLEW the Wolfsburg season

    and BEFORE that got the sack at VfB

    Grr

    UNBELIEVABLE incompetence by the HSV (supervisory-) board

    I am OFFICIALLY finished with those clowns

    Yikes
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    Post by OrangeSky Mon May 24, 2010 11:02 pm

    I wonder if VEH could help me with my communication skills during job interviews. How he can justify all those incidents and still manage to get jobs is beyond me. Razz

    Hamburg transfer window is wide open now, all Dutchies quick--RUN!
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    Post by Antarion Tue May 25, 2010 8:17 am

    As a coach you really can do what you want, you will always find a new team.
    I mean what he has done for VfB was a great archievement, but after his VfL disaster...can't believe HSV gave him the job. The other options would have been great fun for the Buli - after several coaching FAILURES the past few years at HSV they should have realized how important a good coach is. And then they go with another whacky option. Doh
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    Post by Kroos Tue May 25, 2010 9:43 am

    the averagenes of HSV holds on

    how can thy appoint such an limited coach

    hsv need an international class coach, why all german clubs go for german coaches, most of them suck
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    Post by OrangeSky Tue May 25, 2010 4:45 pm

    Antarion wrote:As a coach you really can do what you want, you will always find a new team.
    I mean what he has done for VfB was a great archievement, but after his VfL disaster...can't believe HSV gave him the job. The other options would have been great fun for the Buli - after several coaching FAILURES the past few years at HSV they should have realized how important a good coach is. And then they go with another whacky option. Doh

    You think Jol was a failure at HSV?

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