Question

How many times did Brazil win a WC with more european-based players than Brazilian-based players in the squad?

Never?

and how many time has that happen?

mongrel hawk wrote:How many times did Brazil win a WC with more european-based players than Brazilian-based players in the squad?

I know this one... NEVER!

Agenda questions

yeh, agenda question.

as far as I know, it happened in 1998 and 2006, and from now on it will probably happen every time.

in the first 3 titles, I guess all players played in Brazil, but I'm not sure about 58 and 62.

mongrel hawk wrote:yeh, agenda question.

as far as I know, it happened in 1998 and 2006, and from now on it will probably happen every time.

in the first 3 titles, I guess all players played in Brazil, but I'm not sure about 58 and 62.

So we can write you off as well...

Only Germany remains then....

mongrel hawk wrote:yeh, agenda question.

as far as I know, it happened in 1998and 2006, and from now on it will probably happen every time.

in the first 3 titles, I guess all players played in Brazil, but I'm not sure about 58 and 62.

I remember in 1994 there were a lot of brasil based players.... I just checked, and you had 10 brasil based, 10 europe based, & 2 Japan based

In 2002, you had more brasil based players....

...yeah, I guess from now on it may happen most of the time - there are more and more brasilians playing in europe these days...

Ricardo Wetzel wrote:

mongrel hawk wrote:yeh, agenda question.

as far as I know, it happened in 1998 and 2006, and from now on it will probably happen every time.

in the first 3 titles, I guess all players played in Brazil, but I'm not sure about 58 and 62.

So we can write you off as well...

Only Germany remains then....

No, only Argentina remains, cause Euro teams can't win outside Europe.

mongrel hawk wrote:

Ricardo Wetzel wrote:

mongrel hawk wrote:yeh, agenda question.

as far as I know, it happened in 1998 and 2006, and from now on it will probably happen every time.

in the first 3 titles, I guess all players played in Brazil, but I'm not sure about 58 and 62.

So we can write you off as well...

Only Germany remains then....

No, only Argentina remains, cause Euro teams can't win outside Europe.

But they have Maradonna so every opponent has a chance...

mongrel hawk wrote:
No, only Argentina remains, cause Euro teams can't win outside Europe.

Well, no WC in Africa yet, and the so called "EMEA" (Europe, the Middle East and Africa) region includes Africa. We'll basically have home tournament, according to the business people at least...

So what's the point Mongrel?

I don't know that it will make that great an impact. The current side is filled with European based players yet they seem a very solid unit that doesn't have any egos. So if this is where you are headed I don't agree. Also European football is just that much better nowadays so I think it works to Brazil's advantage.

Super Madrid wrote:So what's the point Mongrel?

I don't know that it will make that great an impact. The current side is filled with European based players yet they seem a very solid unit that doesn't have any egos. So if this is where you are headed I don't agree. Also European football is just that much better nowadays so I think it works to Brazil's advantage.

there's no point, don't take it seriously. it's just a new topic cause it's monday morning here and things are still slow at work.

mongrel hawk wrote:

Super Madrid wrote:So what's the point Mongrel?

I don't know that it will make that great an impact. The current side is filled with European based players yet they seem a very solid unit that doesn't have any egos. So if this is where you are headed I don't agree. Also European football is just that much better nowadays so I think it works to Brazil's advantage.

there's no point, don't take it seriously. it's just a new topic cause it's monday morning here and things are still slow at work.

Ok fair enough.
We could also just talk about who Brazil's next coach will be? Luxa

How many times were there more Brazilians playing for foreign teams than for Brazil itself ?

But if we take a look at 1994 and 2002 Starting XIs, Brazil had more european based players

Taffarel - Parma
Jorginho - Bayern
Leonardo - São Paulo
Márcio Santos - Bordeaux
Aldair - Roma
Mauro Silva - Deportivo
Dunga - Frankfurt
Zinho - Palmeiras
Mazinho - Palmeiras
Bebeto - Deportivo
Romário - Barcelona

Overall - 8 European based players

Marcos - Palmeiras
Lúcio - Leverkusen
Roque Jr. - Milan
Edmílson - Lyon
Cafu - Roma
Roberto Carlos - Real Madrid
Gilberto Silva - Atlético Mineiro aka biggest club in the world
Kléberson - Atlético Paranaense
Ronaldinho - PSG
Rivaldo - Barça
Ronaldo - Inter

Overall - 9 players based on Europe

So I don't think that changes anything at all.

Formerly known as sheva7 wrote:
Gilberto Silva - Atlético Mineiro aka biggest club in the world

Really convincing if you explicitly have to mention that they are "the biggest club in the world"

But is Robinho being counted as a European-based player or local-based player?

That could tip the balance

Axeslammer wrote:

Formerly known as sheva7 wrote:
Gilberto Silva - Atlético Mineiro aka biggest club in the world

Really convincing if you explicitly have to mention that they are "the biggest club in the world"

They are. At least for me.