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    Post by Calidad Mon May 17, 2010 5:36 pm

    Noah and the Bale wrote:
    Calidad wrote:
    Romford Pele wrote:How do you work that one out?

    Rooney got on the end of a lot of crosses this season, and his finishing has become more consistent. Wouldn't say I was particularly wowed by any of his performances however.

    Spurs at WHL

    West Ham at OT

    Hull at KCstadium

    Arsenal at Emirates

    4 examples off the top of my head where he did much more than just get on the end of crosses Ale

    Baines over Bale and Evra?

    @all,

    Does Richard Dunne deserve to be in a EPL team of the season after scoring 7 own goals?

    Bale's been ripped to pieces whenever he's played LB, which is the reason he now plays LM, so yes, I would take Baines over him.

    Evra as usual has been consistent, but he still can't cross to save his life. Baines isn't much worse defensively, but is much more productive going forward. Think he's very underrated myself.

    I don't remember any of those games you mentioned, maybe I didn't even see them. Eitherway. doesn't change the fact that I have not been wowed by Rooney's overall play this season. I still miss the Rooney of 04' even if this one is a lot more clinical and efficient. Drogba & Torres for me, particularly the former, have impressed me more with their all round game this season and the quality of their goals.
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    Post by d gorgeous one haz spoken Mon May 17, 2010 7:30 pm

    Noah and the Bale wrote:
    d gorgeous one haz spoken wrote: rooney's been good, but drogba has been on a class of his own in the epl.

    which makes rooney not even the best in his league.

    nobody can come close to this year's european golden boot winner messi though.

    I don't think there's been that much of a difference between Rooney and Drogba at all.


    yes there is, look at the difference in assist as well. Smile

    rooney 3 assist, 26 goals

    drogba 10 assist, 29 goals.

    they've both played 32 league games.
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    Post by S4P Mon May 17, 2010 8:06 pm

    L r dd wrote:--------Gomes------

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    --------Valencia--Cesc--Milner--Nani

    -------------Rooney----Drogba

    Drogba over Berbatov?
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    Post by bluenine Mon May 17, 2010 10:15 pm

    d gorgeous one haz spoken wrote:
    Noah and the Bale wrote:
    d gorgeous one haz spoken wrote: rooney's been good, but drogba has been on a class of his own in the epl.

    which makes rooney not even the best in his league.

    nobody can come close to this year's european golden boot winner messi though.

    I don't think there's been that much of a difference between Rooney and Drogba at all.


    yes there is, look at the difference in assist as well. Your League's Team of the Season - Page 2 Icon_smile

    rooney 3 assist, 26 goals

    drogba 10 assist, 29 goals.

    they've both played 32 league games.

    You don't need to look at stats for this.... Drogs been da man this season... Rooney had a run of good form, but Drogs been better overall... Your League's Team of the Season - Page 2 F_ale2
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    Post by Kroos Mon May 17, 2010 10:38 pm

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    Post by Super Progress Mon May 17, 2010 10:41 pm

    Saw this list on the Guardian comments page for Paolo Bandini's article:
    Goalkeeper: Salvatore Sirigu (Palermo). A highly impressive breakthrough campaign. Justly rewarded with a place in Italy's squad for the World Cup.

    (Honorary mention: Marco Storari (Sampdoria). Arguably the best performer in his position during the second half of the season.)

    Left-back: John Arne Riise (Roma). Admittedly a choice based partly on patriotism. However the Norwegian, absolutely hapless in recent seasons at Liverpool, did make the unlikeliest of comebacks and had arguably the finest nine months of his professional career.

    (Honorary mention: Javier Zanetti (Inter). Supermodel of consistency who did well in a slightly unfamiliar position.)

    Right-back: Maicon (Inter). Quite simply the world's best full-back. Tireless in attack as well as defence and scored some outstanding goals, including a wonder strike against Juventus, into the bargain.

    (Honorary mention: Mattia Cassani (Palermo). Another rosanero who played his way into the Italy squad.)

    Centre-back: Lucio (Inter). Arguably even better in European competition than in Serie A, the imposing Brazilian nonetheless had an outstanding debut season in Milano.

    (Honorary mention: Alessandro Nesta (Milan). As usual, injury took its toll on the former Lazio captain, however showed his outstanding ability whenever he took to the pitch.)

    Centre-back: Simon Kjær (Palermo). Supremely-talented young Dane who had an exceptional season and, mark my words, will develop into the finest defender on the planet.

    (Honorary mention: Leonardo Bonucci (Bari). Did well enough in his Serie A campaign to be called up for international duty.)

    Central midfield: Angelo Palombo (Sampdoria). The rock on which Samp's successful challenge for Champions League qualification was built.

    (Honorary mention: Massimo Ambrosini (Milan). One of very few players to give a decent account of himself in an inconsistent and increasingly desperate side.)

    Central midfield: Davide Pizarro (Roma). The key man in midfield for the Giallorossi. Such a shame he won't be going to the World Cup.

    (Honorary mention: Omar Milanetto (Genoa). Former Juventus youth team player who's been enjoying an Indian summer to a journeyman career.)

    Attacking midfield: Wesley Sneijder (Inter). Absurdly cast aside by Real Madrid. Responded in brilliant fashion and was the brains of his team's attack, although, like several of his team-mates, he did tend to save his best for European nights.

    (Honorary mention: Marek Hamsik (Napoli). Exuberant Slovak who could be on his way to greatness. Inevitably the subject of much transfer speculation.)

    Forward: Antonio Di Natale (Udinese). Capocannoniere. A ray of light in the overcast Friuli sky.

    (Honorary mention: Mirco Vucinic (Roma). In outstanding form throughout the second half of the season.)

    Forward: Giampaolo Pazzini. Whenever his team needed it, the Tuscan could be relied on for goals. A strong candidate for Italy's starting line-up at the World Cup. This year's Toto Schillaci?

    (Honorary mention: Diego Milito (Inter). Argentinian Sylvester Stallone-lookalike who didn't get a break with a truly major club until he'd turned 30. Did for Inter what he's done wherever he's played: score goals, goals, goals.)

    Forward: Fabrizio Miccoli (Palermo). Absurdly overlooked by Marcello Lippi in spite of a consistently excellent campaign.

    (Honorary mention: Antonio Cassano (Sampdoria). Absurdly overlooked by Marcello Lippi in spite of a consistently excellent campaign.)
    I think Pizzaro has been incredible and I feel for Chile because they could have used him in South Africa even if he wasn't an obvious fit for Bielsa's tactic.
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    Post by Guest Mon May 17, 2010 11:47 pm

    Super Madrid wrote:Saw this list on the Guardian comments page for Paolo Bandini's article:
    Goalkeeper: Salvatore Sirigu (Palermo). A highly impressive breakthrough campaign. Justly rewarded with a place in Italy's squad for the World Cup.

    (Honorary mention: Marco Storari (Sampdoria). Arguably the best performer in his position during the second half of the season.)

    Left-back: John Arne Riise (Roma). Admittedly a choice based partly on patriotism. However the Norwegian, absolutely hapless in recent seasons at Liverpool, did make the unlikeliest of comebacks and had arguably the finest nine months of his professional career.

    (Honorary mention: Javier Zanetti (Inter). Supermodel of consistency who did well in a slightly unfamiliar position.)

    Right-back: Maicon (Inter). Quite simply the world's best full-back. Tireless in attack as well as defence and scored some outstanding goals, including a wonder strike against Juventus, into the bargain.

    (Honorary mention: Mattia Cassani (Palermo). Another rosanero who played his way into the Italy squad.)

    Centre-back: Lucio (Inter). Arguably even better in European competition than in Serie A, the imposing Brazilian nonetheless had an outstanding debut season in Milano.

    (Honorary mention: Alessandro Nesta (Milan). As usual, injury took its toll on the former Lazio captain, however showed his outstanding ability whenever he took to the pitch.)

    Centre-back: Simon Kjær (Palermo). Supremely-talented young Dane who had an exceptional season and, mark my words, will develop into the finest defender on the planet.

    (Honorary mention: Leonardo Bonucci (Bari). Did well enough in his Serie A campaign to be called up for international duty.)

    Central midfield: Angelo Palombo (Sampdoria). The rock on which Samp's successful challenge for Champions League qualification was built.

    (Honorary mention: Massimo Ambrosini (Milan). One of very few players to give a decent account of himself in an inconsistent and increasingly desperate side.)

    Central midfield: Davide Pizarro (Roma). The key man in midfield for the Giallorossi. Such a shame he won't be going to the World Cup.

    (Honorary mention: Omar Milanetto (Genoa). Former Juventus youth team player who's been enjoying an Indian summer to a journeyman career.)

    Attacking midfield: Wesley Sneijder (Inter). Absurdly cast aside by Real Madrid. Responded in brilliant fashion and was the brains of his team's attack, although, like several of his team-mates, he did tend to save his best for European nights.

    (Honorary mention: Marek Hamsik (Napoli). Exuberant Slovak who could be on his way to greatness. Inevitably the subject of much transfer speculation.)

    Forward: Antonio Di Natale (Udinese). Capocannoniere. A ray of light in the overcast Friuli sky.

    (Honorary mention: Mirco Vucinic (Roma). In outstanding form throughout the second half of the season.)

    Forward: Giampaolo Pazzini. Whenever his team needed it, the Tuscan could be relied on for goals. A strong candidate for Italy's starting line-up at the World Cup. This year's Toto Schillaci?

    (Honorary mention: Diego Milito (Inter). Argentinian Sylvester Stallone-lookalike who didn't get a break with a truly major club until he'd turned 30. Did for Inter what he's done wherever he's played: score goals, goals, goals.)

    Forward: Fabrizio Miccoli (Palermo). Absurdly overlooked by Marcello Lippi in spite of a consistently excellent campaign.

    (Honorary mention: Antonio Cassano (Sampdoria). Absurdly overlooked by Marcello Lippi in spite of a consistently excellent campaign.)
    I think Pizzaro has been incredible and I feel for Chile because they could have used him in South Africa even if he wasn't an obvious fit for Bielsa's tactic.

    Not if Pique has anything to say about it.
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    Post by L r dd Mon May 17, 2010 11:55 pm

    bluenine wrote:
    d gorgeous one haz spoken wrote:
    Noah and the Bale wrote:
    d gorgeous one haz spoken wrote: rooney's been good, but drogba has been on a class of his own in the epl.

    which makes rooney not even the best in his league.

    nobody can come close to this year's european golden boot winner messi though.

    I don't think there's been that much of a difference between Rooney and Drogba at all.


    yes there is, look at the difference in assist as well. Your League's Team of the Season - Page 2 Icon_smile

    rooney 3 assist, 26 goals

    drogba 10 assist, 29 goals.

    they've both played 32 league games.

    You don't need to look at stats for this.... Drogs been da man this season... Rooney had a run of good form, but Drogs been better overall... Your League's Team of the Season - Page 2 F_ale2

    lol! Rooney won all the player of the season awards. Since March he hasnt scored a goal due to fitness or injuries without this interference it's 9 months ''good form'' with probably 30+ goals in the prem. As seen v Sunderland he's insanely creative unfortunately Berbatov is insanely shit.

    He was up there with Messi and Ronaldo.
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    Post by A & K Tue May 18, 2010 1:30 am

    For France:

    Lloris(Lyon)-Cisshoko (Lyon)-Rami (Lille)- Trémoulinas (Bordeaux)-Toutalan (Lyon)-Cabaye(Lille)- Bastos (Lyon)-Lucho (Marseille)- Niang (Marseille)-Lisandro (Lyon)

    Not too sure that's the best team tough.
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    Post by bluenine Tue May 18, 2010 8:46 am

    L r dd wrote:
    bluenine wrote:
    d gorgeous one haz spoken wrote:
    Noah and the Bale wrote:
    d gorgeous one haz spoken wrote: rooney's been good, but drogba has been on a class of his own in the epl.

    which makes rooney not even the best in his league.

    nobody can come close to this year's european golden boot winner messi though.

    I don't think there's been that much of a difference between Rooney and Drogba at all.


    yes there is, look at the difference in assist as well. Your League's Team of the Season - Page 2 Icon_smile

    rooney 3 assist, 26 goals

    drogba 10 assist, 29 goals.

    they've both played 32 league games.

    You don't need to look at stats for this.... Drogs been da man this season... Rooney had a run of good form, but Drogs been better overall... Your League's Team of the Season - Page 2 F_ale2

    Your League's Team of the Season - Page 2 Lol Rooney won all the player of the season awards. Since March he hasnt scored a goal due to fitness or injuries without this interference it's 9 months ''good form'' with probably 30+ goals in the prem. As seen v Sunderland he's insanely creative unfortunately Berbatov is insanely shit.

    He was up there with Messi and Ronaldo.

    Sorry lerdy, don't buy it.

    And I always thought that those PFA, etc awards were a joke... who won it last season, Giggs?

    Rooney was good, but IMO Drogs has been better this season.
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    Post by Six Tue May 18, 2010 10:57 am

    Rooney carried United the whole season and they came a close second. Drogba benifitted from Chelsea having a more attacking approach.

    No contest really.
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    Post by L r dd Tue May 18, 2010 11:01 am

    Six wrote:Rooney carried United the whole season and they came a close second. Drogba benifitted from Chelsea having a more attacking approach.

    No contest really.

    He also benifitted from a few dodgy linesman
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    Post by Tweesus Tue May 18, 2010 11:11 am

    Droba has edged it this season but that shouldn't undermine how good Rooney has been and without the injury in Munich, he'd have broken the 30 goals in one EPL season mark.

    Its not just the goals though - even before the goals he was regarded as a top class player and that's because of his supreme vision - and he hasn't lost that. Some of his passes this season have been a joy to watch.
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    Post by Isco Benny Tue May 18, 2010 11:30 am

    d gorgeous one haz spoken wrote:
    Noah and the Bale wrote:
    d gorgeous one haz spoken wrote: rooney's been good, but drogba has been on a class of his own in the epl.

    which makes rooney not even the best in his league.

    nobody can come close to this year's european golden boot winner messi though.

    I don't think there's been that much of a difference between Rooney and Drogba at all.


    yes there is, look at the difference in assist as well. Smile

    rooney 3 assist, 26 goals

    drogba 10 assist, 29 goals.

    they've both played 32 league games.

    Those assists stats should be taken with a pinch of salt- I was reading somewhere the other day that Rooney had managed 0 assists up until November, despite having created over 16 direct goalscoring chances in that time. The fact that he has had to rely upon the likes of Berbatov (whose been shockingly poor) and Carrick to put away these "assists" whilst Drogba has had the likes of Anelka and Lampard in comparison tells it's own story.

    Drog's been brilliant, but also remember Rooney scored 5 times in the knock out stages of the CL. Drog scored none.

    In my opinion, very evenly balanced on who had the better season.

    Love Bluey's understatement of the year - Rooney has been in "good form" Laugh
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    Post by bluenine Tue May 18, 2010 11:51 am

    Noah and the Bale wrote:
    d gorgeous one haz spoken wrote:
    Noah and the Bale wrote:
    d gorgeous one haz spoken wrote: rooney's been good, but drogba has been on a class of his own in the epl.

    which makes rooney not even the best in his league.

    nobody can come close to this year's european golden boot winner messi though.

    I don't think there's been that much of a difference between Rooney and Drogba at all.


    yes there is, look at the difference in assist as well. Your League's Team of the Season - Page 2 Icon_smile

    rooney 3 assist, 26 goals

    drogba 10 assist, 29 goals.

    they've both played 32 league games.

    Those assists stats should be taken with a pinch of salt- I was reading somewhere the other day that Rooney had managed 0 assists up until November, despite having created over 16 direct goalscoring chances in that time. The fact that he has had to rely upon the likes of Berbatov (whose been shockingly poor) and Carrick to put away these "assists" whilst Drogba has had the likes of Anelka and Lampard in comparison tells it's own story.

    Drog's been brilliant, but also remember Rooney scored 5 times in the knock out stages of the CL. Drog scored none.

    In my opinion, very evenly balanced on who had the better season.

    Love Bluey's understatement of the year - Rooney has been in "good form" Your League's Team of the Season - Page 2 Laugh

    How is that an understatement?

    Rooney is a top player, and he has been in good form this season. I think you are just imagining things or trying hard to invent something to WUM about... I always thought Rooney was class, even when most people here did not think so.

    Just that this season Drogs been better. And I don't think its as "evenly balanced" either.... and its a bit more difficult to shine at Chelsea this season, than at ManUtd who were dependent on Rooney (and hence everyone working for him). AND I have already agreed that its not just about the stats....

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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Tue May 18, 2010 11:59 am

    bluenine wrote:
    Noah and the Bale wrote:
    d gorgeous one haz spoken wrote:
    Noah and the Bale wrote:
    d gorgeous one haz spoken wrote: rooney's been good, but drogba has been on a class of his own in the epl.

    which makes rooney not even the best in his league.

    nobody can come close to this year's european golden boot winner messi though.

    I don't think there's been that much of a difference between Rooney and Drogba at all.


    yes there is, look at the difference in assist as well. Your League's Team of the Season - Page 2 Icon_smile

    rooney 3 assist, 26 goals

    drogba 10 assist, 29 goals.

    they've both played 32 league games.

    Those assists stats should be taken with a pinch of salt- I was reading somewhere the other day that Rooney had managed 0 assists up until November, despite having created over 16 direct goalscoring chances in that time. The fact that he has had to rely upon the likes of Berbatov (whose been shockingly poor) and Carrick to put away these "assists" whilst Drogba has had the likes of Anelka and Lampard in comparison tells it's own story.

    Drog's been brilliant, but also remember Rooney scored 5 times in the knock out stages of the CL. Drog scored none.

    In my opinion, very evenly balanced on who had the better season.

    Love Bluey's understatement of the year - Rooney has been in "good form" Your League's Team of the Season - Page 2 Laugh

    How is that an understatement?

    Rooney is a top player, and he has been in good form this season. I think you are just imagining things or trying hard to invent something to WUM about... I always thought Rooney was class, even when most people here did not think so.

    Just that this season Drogs been better. And I don't think its as "evenly balanced" either.... and its a bit more difficult to shine at Chelsea this season, than at ManUtd who were dependent on Rooney (and hence everyone working for him). AND I have already agreed that its not just about the stats....

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    Post by S4P Tue May 18, 2010 1:09 pm

    Six wrote:Rooney carried United the whole season and they came a close second. Drogba benifitted from Chelsea having a more attacking approach.

    No contest really.

    I thought United were not a one man team? Nani was terrifying defenders all season, Valencia was supreme week in week out. Evra, Giggs and Fletcher were all among the top players in the league too, while Chelsea had an aging, poor midfield, a poor away record, a weak defence and sub-standard attackers (Drogba aside)?
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    Post by S4P Tue May 18, 2010 1:11 pm

    Noah and the Bale wrote:Drog's been brilliant, but also remember Rooney scored 5 times in the knock out stages of the CL. Drog scored none.

    Rooney had 2 games against an AC Milan side who looked like they couldn't defend if their lives depended on it and 2 games against Van Buyten and co. Bit different to playing against Samuel and Lucio Ale
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    Post by L r dd Tue May 18, 2010 1:16 pm

    S4P wrote:
    Six wrote:Rooney carried United the whole season and they came a close second. Drogba benifitted from Chelsea having a more attacking approach.

    No contest really.

    I thought United were not a one man team? Nani was terrifying defenders all season, Valencia was supreme week in week out. Evra, Giggs and Fletcher were all among the top players in the league too, while Chelsea had an aging, poor midfield, a poor away record, a weak defence and sub-standard attackers (Drogba aside)?

    You don't have to put down one or the other to boost which one you think was best. But i think if you put an open mind to it you can see Rooney was on another level and rightly won all the awards. The last two months Drogba obviously did a lot better since Rooney was never fit.
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Tue May 18, 2010 1:37 pm

    Drogba was top dog the 1st couple of months as well IMO. Rooney's peak came around the middle of the season when these awards were handed out, and he is English, and the hacks hate Drogba so...

    Anyway they were the top 2 in the league. Cesc maybe pushing them if he had stayed fit
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    Post by L r dd Tue May 18, 2010 1:39 pm

    The hacks only have a say in one of the awards.

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