Manchester United 2006/2007

l r d wrote:september 1 is the deadline for cl players. so he would be able to play.
Not gonna argue whether he will come or not you cant be sure, but i believe him and senna will be put infront of the crowd before the game v fulham it is the plan.

My uncle lives in spain, and watches like all the games on tv, and he said that senna was nothing special, an above average player, but hradly the type of player you would expect man u to go for

Well i will bear that in mind when talking to Alex tomorrow

l r d wrote:Well i will bear that in mind when talking to Alex tomorrow

okay

A and B lists
The 32 clubs in the group stage will then have a week to sign and enlist players ahead of the 1 September final deadline. A club is entitled to field 25 players from their A list over the course of the Champions League season. Youth players (born on or after 1 January 1984 and eligible to play for the club concerned for any uninterrupted period of two years since the player's 15th birthday) on the B list do not form part of that squad.

senna was quality against arsenal. he wasent a threat togoal but could become a different type of keane

There were quite a few discussions about the CL deadline in German forums. Some say August 15th, while others say Septermber 1st. The latter refer to some documents on the UEFA site, while the former point to the Mertesacker deal I mentioned earlier. Don't think that our management would have put pressure on themselves for no reason, wouldn't have made any sense.

Edit: Here is a link

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/SPORT/football/08/08/germany.metesacker/index.html


Bremen have been chasing Mertesacker since the middle of last season and were keen to sign the 1.98 meter centre-half before the Champions League deadline in mid-August.

Sept 1st

I too dont think that Bayern will sell Hargreaves.

Slighty worrying

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=409905&CPID=8&clid=1&lid=4161&title=Rossi+dreams+of+Italy+return

Where are you getting this info that Hargreaves and Senna will join before the end of the week.

I find it kind of strange from Hargreaves comments and the reported interest, he actually said i don't know what is goind to happen between now and the deadline day.

@Parky of course Rossi wants tio play for the Rossenieri what Italian kid doesn't? Not really appropriate comments to make though ahead of hopefully his breakthrough season, i hate in when players say shit like that

Thats sure to upset Fergie and I wouldn't blame Fergie for being pissed.

As much as I like Rossi and think he's a very good prospect, he's got to prove himself at Man United before anything.

I thought LRD's comment 'United will sign Hargreaves and Senna by the end of the week'

Came from an actual reliable source

We'd have such depth in midfield though

I think that the words have been taken out of context to make a story. If you asked Ronaldo if he wanted to play for Madrid or Barca then he's say 'I'd love to'. Ask Rossi if he'd like to play in Italy during his career (he's 19 ffs, he's got about 15 years left) then he'll say yes.

I wouldn't worry about it - Man U wouldn't sell Rossi to Milan anyway.

saintgoingmarching wrote:I think that the words have been taken out of context to make a story. If you asked Ronaldo if he wanted to play for Madrid or Barca then he's say 'I'd love to'. Ask Rossi if he'd like to play in Italy during his career (he's 19 ffs, he's got about 15 years left) then he'll say yes.

I wouldn't worry about it - Man U wouldn't sell Rossi to Milan anyway.

I know.

I suppose alot of fans dreams are to see a forward line consisting of Rooney, Rossi and Ronaldo causing teams loads of problems for years to come and it would be upsetting to see it broken up in say 3 - 4 years time.

To counter that though, I guess if we are successful it will help them stay.

poiuy1 wrote:I thought LRD's comment 'United will sign Hargreaves and Senna by the end of the week'

Came from an actual reliable source

We'd have such depth in midfield though

Alex will have a good chat with him today or tomorrow, he wants to come, and we want him. there is a problem over the fee. senna is as good as done

Sir Parks Lives wrote:

saintgoingmarching wrote:I think that the words have been taken out of context to make a story. If you asked Ronaldo if he wanted to play for Madrid or Barca then he's say 'I'd love to'. Ask Rossi if he'd like to play in Italy during his career (he's 19 ffs, he's got about 15 years left) then he'll say yes.

I wouldn't worry about it - Man U wouldn't sell Rossi to Milan anyway.

I know.

I suppose alot of fans dreams are to see a forward line consisting of Rooney, Rossi and Ronaldo causing teams loads of problems for years to come and it would be upsetting to see it broken up in say 3 - 4 years time.

To counter that though, I guess if we are successful it will help them stay.

Well, if you find the right way to blend the three then you've got all the qualities needed for a great forward line - plenty of pace, all three players can dribble past people, Rooney and Ronaldo can both score from 20-25 yards, Rossi is a good poacher, all have vision and like to play other people through, two right footers and one left footer. Rossi's not there yet, but I can see him doing very well this season.

saintgoingmarching wrote:

Sir Parks Lives wrote:

saintgoingmarching wrote:I think that the words have been taken out of context to make a story. If you asked Ronaldo if he wanted to play for Madrid or Barca then he's say 'I'd love to'. Ask Rossi if he'd like to play in Italy during his career (he's 19 ffs, he's got about 15 years left) then he'll say yes.

I wouldn't worry about it - Man U wouldn't sell Rossi to Milan anyway.

I know.

I suppose alot of fans dreams are to see a forward line consisting of Rooney, Rossi and Ronaldo causing teams loads of problems for years to come and it would be upsetting to see it broken up in say 3 - 4 years time.

To counter that though, I guess if we are successful it will help them stay.

Well, if you find the right way to blend the three then you've got all the qualities needed for a great forward line - plenty of pace, all three players can dribble past people, Rooney and Ronaldo can both score from 20-25 yards, Rossi is a good poacher, all have vision and like to play other people through, two right footers and one left footer. Rossi's not there yet, but I can see him doing very well this season.

Its part of the reason, although a striker would be nice for the short term considering Saha is injury prone, Rossi is unproven, Smith isn't prolific etc. It maybe best in the long term not to sign one as if we wait a couple of years we could have a great forward line once Rossi develops.

Signing someone like Torres may hinder that, unless we played all 4 which would mean our central midfield would have to be very strong.

--------------------VDS/Kuzszchak-------------

Gaz/Brown Rio/Silvestre---Vidic/Brown---Heinz/Evra

------------------Carrick/Fletch/O'shea-----------------

-----Senna/Hargreaves--------Scholes/Giggs/Jones

Ronaldo/Park--------Rooney/Park/Giggs/Richardson

-----------------------Saha/Smith/Rossi----------------


*Dreams*

Rossi needs to go on loan and we need to sign another striker.

Will we sign another striker? we should do because i think we need one and i think we have the money to buy one.

Assume Man Utd had a transfer budget of £25m to spend on players this summer.

We have spent £14m on Carrick.

£25m - £14m = £11m

if we sign Senna then i think he will cost around £5m.

£11m - £5m = £6m

Now add the money we got from Real for Ruuds transfer.

£6m + £10.2m = £16.2m

We should be able to buy a good striker for £16.2m. If you include the money(£12m) we got off Chelsea for Mikel then we have £28.2m still left to spend on new players.

But some of these transfer payments are over a 2-3 years, which could be problem when trying to sign new players.

We seem to be linked with two midfielders and three strikers.

Midfielders - Senna, Hargreaves.

Strikers - Torres, Tevez, Adriano.

I think if we got Torres or Adriano we could only afford Senna in midfield. If we got Tevez we maybe able to afford Hargreaves.

I'd say we have around £30 million left if needed.

Batman wrote:Rossi needs to go on loan and we need to sign another striker.

Will we sign another striker? we should do because i think we need one and i think we have the money to buy one.

Assume Man Utd had a transfer budget of £25m to spend on players this summer.

We have spent £14m on Carrick.

£25m - £14m = £11m

if we sign Senna then i think he will cost around £5m.

£11m - £5m = £6m

Now add the money we got from Real for Ruuds transfer.

£6m + £10.2m = £16.2m

We should be able to buy a good striker for £16.2m. If you include the money(£12m) we got off Chelsea for Mikel then we have £28.2m still left to spend on new players.

But some of these transfer payments are over a 2-3 years, which could be problem when trying to sign new players.

I'm going to be pissed if we don't sign either a Hargreaves or another striker after the immenent signing of Senna.
I would then expect Torres or Tevez to be arriving next summer as we currently have not even eatin in to the transfer budget

Sir Parks Lives wrote:
Its part of the reason, although a striker would be nice for the short term considering Saha is injury prone, Rossi is unproven, Smith isn't prolific etc. It maybe best in the long term not to sign one as if we wait a couple of years we could have a great forward line once Rossi develops.

Signing someone like Torres may hinder that, unless we played all 4 which would mean our central midfield would have to be very strong.

Well, you could play a 4-2-3-1:

--------Carrick--Midfielder-------

Ronaldo----Rooney-----Rossi----

--------------Torres---------------



However, I don't think that you'll get Torres. Too much money for what he offers in my opinion, and I think Ferguson might be thinking the same.

saintgoingmarching wrote:

Sir Parks Lives wrote:
Its part of the reason, although a striker would be nice for the short term considering Saha is injury prone, Rossi is unproven, Smith isn't prolific etc. It maybe best in the long term not to sign one as if we wait a couple of years we could have a great forward line once Rossi develops.

Signing someone like Torres may hinder that, unless we played all 4 which would mean our central midfield would have to be very strong.

Well, you could play a 4-2-3-1:

--------Carrick--Midfielder-------

Ronaldo----Rooney-----Rossi----

--------------Torres---------------



However, I don't think that you'll get Torres. Too much money for what he offers in my opinion, and I think Ferguson might be thinking the same.

Yeah, thats the way it would be used if we did get Torres or a young striker. The midfielder next to Carrick would have to be probably a dominant midfielder one who can also get forward abit as well as defend.

We have some coming through the ranks as well like Darren Gibson who could be up to that level like Rossi in a few years.

Like you though I'd be suprised if we get Torres.

Inter welcome bids for Adriano.

http://www.tribalfootball.com/article.php?id=8124

If only tribal football could be trusted.

adriano would be a much better buy than torres, imo. much more suited to the EPL

Emmanuele Elboue wrote:adriano would be a much better buy than torres, imo. much more suited to the EPL

Yep, I agree. Whether people think he is over rated or not, it would be a major coup for Man United.

I hate Adriano, he'll be a flop, he doesn't have the right attitude to play under Ferguson

poiuy1 wrote:I hate Adriano, he'll be a flop, he doesn't have the right attitude to play under Ferguson

He'd suit us better than Torres imo.

I duno what you on about his attitude.
Cant see it happening, and no whispers of this but it wouldnt be bad.
Adriano has all the attributes bar a right foot to become one of the best strikers in the world. He is just so inconsistent

l r d wrote:I duno what you on about his attitude.
Cant see it happening, and no whispers of this but it wouldnt be bad.
Adriano has all the attributes bar a right foot to become one of the best strikers in the world. He is just so inconsistent

You sell one striker with a bad attitude that wasn't performing and you buy another with a worse attitude that is not fit or at his ideal weight. and to top that wasn't even scoring like Ruud was (he went a whole 3 months without scoring