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Brian2468
Hlebagone
Pras_tama
Kimbo
Isco Benny
S4P
Puro
fcb
Jaime
blutgraetsche
Aristoskank
TM
A & K
DD
Deluded F*ck™
rosenthal
Di Caniooooo!
Pierre Littbarski
Glenarch of the Glen
TheCrazy58
COTR
debaser
Luis
Fade out
Matt_AFC
Murray
30 posters
New Chelsea Manager
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Who is it going to be?
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Total Votes: 25
Murray- Number of posts : 10247
Age : 54
Registration date : 2006-08-07
- Post n°1
New Chelsea Manager
So who's next for a mega multi million pound compensation package for being sacked by Chelsea?
Matt_AFC- Number of posts : 922
Supports : Arsenal,Benfica
Registration date : 2009-10-25
- Post n°2
Re: New Chelsea Manager
Have a feeling they will want Villa Boas because of Portos fantastic season and His comparisons to Mourinho But I think Hiddink is also a strong possibilty
Fade out- Number of posts : 6128
Age : 60
Favourite Player : Baggio (he outshone Zidane when played together at Juve)
Registration date : 2008-07-06
- Post n°3
Re: New Chelsea Manager
Grant.
Luis- Number of posts : 26262
Age : 33
Supports : Liverpool
Favourite Player : Luis Garcia, Danny Agger, Pedro, Pepe Reina, Luis Suarez, Raul Meireles, Juan Mata, Jordan Henderson
Registration date : 2007-03-28
- Post n°4
Re: New Chelsea Manager
Hodgson
debaser- Number of posts : 22064
Age : 39
Supports : Aston Villa and Shrewsbury Town
Registration date : 2006-08-08
- Post n°5
Re: New Chelsea Manager
I guessed Deschamps earlier in season, so I'll stick with that.
COTR- Number of posts : 26580
Age : 40
Supports : Liverp8-0l
Favourite Player : Xabier Alonso, Fabio Aurelio, Daniel Agger, Pepe Reina, Alberto Aquilani, Elano, Luis Suarez, Glen Johnson
Registration date : 2006-08-06
- Post n°6
Re: New Chelsea Manager
Whoever it is will have a few tricky decisions to make on who to get rid of to make that side work again.
Well actually it isn't really tricky at all but good luck finding someone else willing to pay The Flump £130k per week
Well actually it isn't really tricky at all but good luck finding someone else willing to pay The Flump £130k per week
Matt_AFC- Number of posts : 922
Supports : Arsenal,Benfica
Registration date : 2009-10-25
- Post n°7
Re: New Chelsea Manager
arry
TheCrazy58- Number of posts : 8151
Age : 104
Supports : Arsenal
Registration date : 2006-08-07
- Post n°8
Re: New Chelsea Manager
Villas Boas or Hiddink.
Glenarch of the Glen- Number of posts : 30157
Age : 38
Supports : Palestine
Favourite Player : Hélder Barbosa
Registration date : 2006-08-06
- Post n°9
Re: New Chelsea Manager
Dalglish?
Pierre Littbarski- Number of posts : 12424
Age : 114
Registration date : 2006-08-07
- Post n°10
Re: New Chelsea Manager
It won't be Hoodwink.
He took over when they were 4th so (at that time) they were in the lowest position they could possibly finish (before the pogress of Spurs and City).
He would have no excuse for failure if he took over at the start of the season, had loads of money spent on players and was up against a United without VDS and with ana geing Scholes and Giggs, a City side who are only CL for the 1st time and will lose Tevez, a dismal Arsenal, a Spurs side who have reached their peak and Liverpool who won't be anything like as good when playing under pressure.
He will publicly distance himself from the job but rather than admit to being a man who can only achieve as a perceived underdog he will say its because he has a contract with Turkey (manager/player contracts really mean a lot nowadays) thereby presenting himself as a man of honour - his adoring press will lap it up and, should the new Chelsea manager disappoint, they will all speculate as to how good Chelsea would have been had the great Guus taken over.
He took over when they were 4th so (at that time) they were in the lowest position they could possibly finish (before the pogress of Spurs and City).
He would have no excuse for failure if he took over at the start of the season, had loads of money spent on players and was up against a United without VDS and with ana geing Scholes and Giggs, a City side who are only CL for the 1st time and will lose Tevez, a dismal Arsenal, a Spurs side who have reached their peak and Liverpool who won't be anything like as good when playing under pressure.
He will publicly distance himself from the job but rather than admit to being a man who can only achieve as a perceived underdog he will say its because he has a contract with Turkey (manager/player contracts really mean a lot nowadays) thereby presenting himself as a man of honour - his adoring press will lap it up and, should the new Chelsea manager disappoint, they will all speculate as to how good Chelsea would have been had the great Guus taken over.
Di Caniooooo!- Number of posts : 10829
Age : 38
Supports : West Ham
Favourite Player : Paolo Di Canio, Moore, Hurst, Peters
Registration date : 2007-03-24
- Post n°11
Re: New Chelsea Manager
Which ever wins the race to see who can bend over for Roman fastest wins the spot.
rosenthal- Number of posts : 822
Supports : Tottenham Hotspur
Favourite Player : רוני רוזנטל
Registration date : 2008-07-15
- Post n°12
Re: New Chelsea Manager
There have been rumours for a while about Harry Redknapp being in talks with Chelsea.
Don't rule it out ..
Deluded F*ck™- Number of posts : 21765
Age : 38
Supports : The Lilywhites from N17
Favourite Player : The Hurrikane - he's on of our own!
Registration date : 2006-08-07
- Post n°13
Re: New Chelsea Manager
rosenthal wrote:
There have been rumours for a while about Harry Redknapp being in talks with Chelsea.
Don't rule it out ..
I almost want this to happen, the way he's dissed the Lilly-white faithful lately.
DD- Number of posts : 10721
Age : 44
Supports : NEC
Registration date : 2006-08-07
- Post n°14
Re: New Chelsea Manager
All of last week Hiddink was in talks to join the Ajax staff (lol), but I just read this morning he cancelled all talks now...
I'd say the likelihood of him returning to Stamford bridge just got bigger.
I'd say the likelihood of him returning to Stamford bridge just got bigger.
A & K- Number of posts : 3347
Registration date : 2006-08-12
- Post n°15
Re: New Chelsea Manager
I just can't see Mourinho, Hiddink, Deschamps because they have a contract to respect. Rijkaard, why not he is free. Benitez could be an option and he is free too. Villas Boas could be tempted to be paid huge, but does he really want to take his chance now or would he rather stay a bit with Porto and continue the adventure in the C.L. Redknapp could be the best option, he did pretty well this year and who knows what he could do with a team like Chelsea?
Zola and Sven would not be good for Chelsea, well good for other teams for sure.
Zola and Sven would not be good for Chelsea, well good for other teams for sure.
TM- Number of posts : 21218
Age : 34
Supports : PROGRESS!
Favourite Player : Luis Figo
Registration date : 2006-08-16
- Post n°16
Re: New Chelsea Manager
Hiddink with Zola as his assistant.
Aristoskank- Number of posts : 9733
Registration date : 2008-09-19
- Post n°17
Re: New Chelsea Manager
There is only one man who can revive a team built around Frank Lampard who is comfortable and has a proven track record of spending lots of money to achieve success, and that man is Sven.
I'd be amused to see what Benitez could do with the job. He could waste even more money on strikers than he did at Liverpool.
I'd be amused to see what Benitez could do with the job. He could waste even more money on strikers than he did at Liverpool.
debaser- Number of posts : 22064
Age : 39
Supports : Aston Villa and Shrewsbury Town
Registration date : 2006-08-08
- Post n°18
Re: New Chelsea Manager
Talking of Hiddink, has anyone been to the 'Guuseum'?
Fade out- Number of posts : 6128
Age : 60
Favourite Player : Baggio (he outshone Zidane when played together at Juve)
Registration date : 2008-07-06
- Post n°19
Re: New Chelsea Manager
There's also cocktail named after him in Korea
Deluded F*ck™- Number of posts : 21765
Age : 38
Supports : The Lilywhites from N17
Favourite Player : The Hurrikane - he's on of our own!
Registration date : 2006-08-07
- Post n°20
Re: New Chelsea Manager
Pinky und der Brain wrote:There is only one man who can revive a team built around Frank Lampard who is comfortable and has a proven track record of spending lots of money to achieve success, and that man is Sven.
I'd be amused to see what Benitez could do with the job. He could waste even more money on strikers than he did at Liverpool.
Liverpool more than doubled what was paid for Torres, made a £4mil profit on Crouch, broke even on Bellamy & Garcia, Kuyt is a £10mil player in this day and age, N'gog at £1.5mil they probably won't lose anything on him. Morientes he realised wouldn't adapt pretty quickly and he lost £3mil on him. Keane wasn't really his signing but for the sake of this agenda I'll allow you the £5mil loss. Babel was the one true busted flush, bought for £13mil, sold for £5mil. Cisse wasn't his signing, but again, for the sake of agendas, I'll let you have the £8mil loss on him. Baros he gained £3mil on.
So with all that he's actually made, by my reckoning, a £9mil p[rofit on strikers.
Wasted Cash
Aristoskank- Number of posts : 9733
Registration date : 2008-09-19
- Post n°21
Re: New Chelsea Manager
Deluded F*ck wrote:Pinky und der Brain wrote:There is only one man who can revive a team built around Frank Lampard who is comfortable and has a proven track record of spending lots of money to achieve success, and that man is Sven.
I'd be amused to see what Benitez could do with the job. He could waste even more money on strikers than he did at Liverpool.
Liverpool more than doubled what was paid for Torres, made a £4mil profit on Crouch, broke even on Bellamy & Garcia, Kuyt is a £10mil player in this day and age, N'gog at £1.5mil they probably won't lose anything on him. Morientes he realised wouldn't adapt pretty quickly and he lost £3mil on him. Keane wasn't really his signing but for the sake of this agenda I'll allow you the £5mil loss. Babel was the one true busted flush, bought for £13mil, sold for £5mil. Cisse wasn't his signing, but again, for the sake of agendas, I'll let you have the £8mil loss on him. Baros he gained £3mil on.
So with all that he's actually made, by my reckoning, a £9mil p[rofit on strikers.
Wasted Cash
Massive inflation in transfer fees doesn't excuse the fact that of maybe a dozen strikers signed that only one (or maybe two if you include Torres) were successes. 'arry sold Lassana Diara for a massive profit. Does that mean he is some kind of midfielder transfer genius?
Abramovich doing a bit of dick wagging and buying an unfit, out of form striker who has had one great season in his entire career for a ludicrous 50 million adds no credit to Benitez whatsoever. Particularly if you include the fact that Torres fee and wages were such that Liverpool couldn't afford to also buy/employ meaningful backup. And the fact that Torres was at best inconsistent, moody and relatively frequently injured and therefore required meaningful backup.
Benitez signed an amazing goalkeeper, some very good defenders who when he coached them became an outstanding defensive unit, some excellent midfielders who combined to form a diverse and balanced group, but that's where it stops. Wide players - signed a lot, aside from Kuyt literally none of them worked out. Strikers - signed a lot, and maybe didn't lose shocking amounts of money on any of them, but again aside from Kuyt few if any worked out.
Ferguson has signed maybe 10 players to try and find the right partner for Rooney and maybe ManYoo haven't lost (to them) significant amounts of money on any of them, but it hasn't been a successful process by any meaningful standard. He has wasted money. Take Tosic, for example. Man Utd signed him, bigged him up, didn't sign the other lad they had agreed to sign alongside him, played Tosic in a handful of meaningless appearances, invested in his wages and his training and in finding a club to loan him out to, loaned him out, he did alright and then they sold him for a small profit. That is not a successful signing of a player, because Championship Manager is not reality. It is wasted time, and it is wasted money. If Fergie deserves criticism, which he does, then Benitez deserves criticism, which he does.
I know you have something of a flake cornetto in your pants when it comes to Benitez, but there's giving him due credit, then there's refusing to accept justified criticism.
Glenarch of the Glen- Number of posts : 30157
Age : 38
Supports : Palestine
Favourite Player : Hélder Barbosa
Registration date : 2006-08-06
- Post n°22
Re: New Chelsea Manager
Keane was a horrible signing. Babel was an expensive mistake, the rest we got what we paid for. I don't think Benitez made bad signings, he bought what he could afford. He just doesn't have an overachieving bargain striker signing like so many other managers in his position have. 'Justified criticism' would be better off focusing on the wingers and fullbacks.
Luis- Number of posts : 26262
Age : 33
Supports : Liverpool
Favourite Player : Luis Garcia, Danny Agger, Pedro, Pepe Reina, Luis Suarez, Raul Meireles, Juan Mata, Jordan Henderson
Registration date : 2007-03-28
- Post n°23
Re: New Chelsea Manager
Rafa didn't want Babel, he wanted Malouda but Parry messed about and we lost out in the end. Babel was an alternative that we only wanted to pay around 8 million for, again Parry messed that one up.
The Keane transfer again was not what Rafa had in mind. He made it explicit to Parry, Hicks and Gillett that he only wanted Keane if he could buy Barry as well. Parry told him we had to buy Keane first but not to worry because we would definitely be signing Barry. After we signed Keane Parry came back and told him the owners were unwilling to spend money on a player of Barry's age despite Keane being the same age as him and around 8 million more. Keane couldn't fit into a system devoid of Barry and effectively Rafa was left with a player he didn't want for 20 million, I don't blame him at all for that, I blame the clowns running the club at the time.
The Keane transfer again was not what Rafa had in mind. He made it explicit to Parry, Hicks and Gillett that he only wanted Keane if he could buy Barry as well. Parry told him we had to buy Keane first but not to worry because we would definitely be signing Barry. After we signed Keane Parry came back and told him the owners were unwilling to spend money on a player of Barry's age despite Keane being the same age as him and around 8 million more. Keane couldn't fit into a system devoid of Barry and effectively Rafa was left with a player he didn't want for 20 million, I don't blame him at all for that, I blame the clowns running the club at the time.
Glenarch of the Glen- Number of posts : 30157
Age : 38
Supports : Palestine
Favourite Player : Hélder Barbosa
Registration date : 2006-08-06
- Post n°24
Re: New Chelsea Manager
Luis wrote:Rafa didn't want Babel, he wanted Malouda but Parry messed about and we lost out in the end. Babel was an alternative that we only wanted to pay around 8 million for, again Parry messed that one up.
The Keane transfer again was not what Rafa had in mind. He made it explicit to Parry, Hicks and Gillett that he only wanted Keane if he could buy Barry as well. Parry told him we had to buy Keane first but not to worry because we would definitely be signing Barry. After we signed Keane Parry came back and told him the owners were unwilling to spend money on a player of Barry's age despite Keane being the same age as him and around 8 million more. Keane couldn't fit into a system devoid of Barry and effectively Rafa was left with a player he didn't want for 20 million, I don't blame him at all for that, I blame the clowns running the club at the time.
I'm not sure how true all that is. I'm sure the board wouldn't spend 30m+ on players Rafa didn't want. I do believe that they weren't his first choice - he wanted Malouda and Villa. He wanted Dani Alves, he got Kromkamp, he wanted Simao, he got Pennant. But the Barry/Keane nonsense is just silly, Keane was/is shit and there's not much Gareth Barry could do about that.
Luis- Number of posts : 26262
Age : 33
Supports : Liverpool
Favourite Player : Luis Garcia, Danny Agger, Pedro, Pepe Reina, Luis Suarez, Raul Meireles, Juan Mata, Jordan Henderson
Registration date : 2007-03-28
- Post n°25
Re: New Chelsea Manager
Well that's according to Brian Reade in his new book which sums up the Hicks and Gillett fiasco basically. I'm not saying Rafa didn't make mistakes, all managers do but on this particular occasion I believe he genuinely had a formation in mind that Keane and Barry would play an important role in.
blutgraetsche- Number of posts : 23328
Supports : Deutsche Fußballnationalmannschaft
Registration date : 2006-08-09
- Post n°26
Re: New Chelsea Manager
Apparently, Ancelotti doesn't want to return to Italy and intends to stay in England. I wonder what club he could manage (or rather can afford him).
DD- Number of posts : 10721
Age : 44
Supports : NEC
Registration date : 2006-08-07
- Post n°27
Re: New Chelsea Manager
Spurs swap?blutgraetsche wrote:Apparently, Ancelotti doesn't want to return to Italy and intends to stay in England. I wonder what club he could manage (or rather can afford him).
blutgraetsche- Number of posts : 23328
Supports : Deutsche Fußballnationalmannschaft
Registration date : 2006-08-09
- Post n°28
Re: New Chelsea Manager
Don't think that Abramovich is seriously interested in 'arry. But Ancelotti could do well for Spurs indeed.
Jaime- Number of posts : 32027
Age : 46
Supports : Real Madrid CF
Favourite Player : Butragueño, Redondo, Raúl, Guti, Casillas, Sergio Ramos, Isco, Carvajal
Registration date : 2006-08-08
- Post n°29
Re: New Chelsea Manager
blutgraetsche wrote:Apparently, Ancelotti doesn't want to return to Italy and intends to stay in England. I wonder what club he could manage (or rather can afford him).
If that is the case he will probably just hang around like Rafa Benitez and wait for Mancini or Dalglish to get the sack.
Glenarch of the Glen- Number of posts : 30157
Age : 38
Supports : Palestine
Favourite Player : Hélder Barbosa
Registration date : 2006-08-06
- Post n°30
Re: New Chelsea Manager
he should hang around casinos looking for Mike Ashley
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