Real Madrid C.F. 2011/12 - Campeones de España!

Cristiano wrote:

Jaime wrote:Squad for the 2nd leg vs APOEL:

Porteros: Casillas, Adán y Tomás Mejías
Defensas: Pepe, Ramos, Marcelo, Coentrão, Albiol y Varane
Centrocampistas: Sahin, Kaká, Özil, Granero, Alonso, Altintop, Callejón y Di María
Delanteros: Ronaldo, Benzema e Higuaín

Lesionados: Arbeloa, Khedira, Lass, Carvalho

Will be interesting to see if Jose moves Sergio Ramos back to the right or if he will use Altintop as right back. My guess is the latter.

Anyone know which players, if any, are in danger of a suspension if they pick up a booking tomorrow?

Why is Alonso even in the squad. I'm gonna get really wound up if he plays the full 90mins.

Yeah me too. It doesn't make sense to keep playing him this much especially since he is starting to get old so we have to be more careful about overextending him.

Would like to see Di Maria/Sahin/Granero/Callejon/Varane playing.

RIP

When asked about the two semi-finals in a television interview in the tunnel straight after the final whistle, Mourinho told TeleMadrid: "For me the big question is knowing who will play against Barca in the final.

"It will be a great semi-final, Bayern against Real Madrid, and the best team will go on to play against Barca."

TM wrote:

When asked about the two semi-finals in a television interview in the tunnel straight after the final whistle, Mourinho told TeleMadrid: "For me the big question is knowing who will play against Barca in the final.

"It will be a great semi-final, Bayern against Real Madrid, and the best team will go on to play against Barca."

Target Man didn't realise you were part of Team Progress

Cristiano wrote:

TM wrote:

When asked about the two semi-finals in a television interview in the tunnel straight after the final whistle, Mourinho told TeleMadrid: "For me the big question is knowing who will play against Barca in the final.

"It will be a great semi-final, Bayern against Real Madrid, and the best team will go on to play against Barca."

Target Man didn't realise you were part of Team Progress

The Special One will lead us to glory!

This is how I see it:


People: Mourinho-----------------------Perez-----------------------------------------------------------Valdano


Fans:Super Progress----Torrente----TM-----------------Pipita---Cristiano-----------------------------------Jaime


Ideology:Progressive-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Traditionalism

(reasonable/pragmatic/forwardlooking/winning) ---------------- (unreasonable/rigid/stuckinthepas/"beauty")



Mourinho has done much for the party and I see that in the Madrid fans I talk to. They are much smarter than they used to be. I'm afraid of what will happen once Mourinho leaves though. Then the fans,media and crucially our football will lapse back into the stone ages and start calling for patriots like Pepe to be sold.

That is why the party needs to plan for a sensible successor once the Saviour leaves and the powerstruggle begins.

I have the ideal candidate





"10 men behind the ball" he even screams with his body language

To the future

I am in favour of PROGRESS just as much as the next guy, but please keep Rafa as far away from the Bernabeu as possible.

Super Pepe wrote:This is how I see it:


People: Mourinho-----------------------Perez-----------------------------------------------------------Valdano


Fans:Super Progress----Torrente----TM-----------------Pipita---Cristiano-----------------------------------Jaime


Ideology:Progressive-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Traditionalism

(reasonable/pragmatic/forwardlooking/winning) ---------------- (unreasonable/rigid/stuckinthepas/"beauty")



Mourinho has done much for the party and I see that in the Madrid fans I talk to. They are much smarter than they used to be. I'm afraid of what will happen once Mourinho leaves though. Then the fans,media and crucially our football will lapse back into the stone ages and start calling for patriots like Pepe to be sold.

That is why the party needs to plan for a sensible successor once the Saviour leaves and the powerstruggle begins.

I have the ideal candidate





"10 men behind the ball" he even screams with his body language

To the future

This is a top post, for many reasons. But still a wee bit mistaken.

For example, on the progress-tradition spectrum, Super is even further to the left than Mourinho himself. Mourinho has reformed his ways. Can you imagine Jose ever fielding a two man midfield of Granero and Sahin when he first arrived? Not a chance. Least of all in the Champions League. I think I mentioned in the la liga thread the following example:

2010-11 midfield vs Osasuna = Lass, Khedira, Ozil ---> result = Osasuna 1-0 Real Madrid
2011-12 midfield vs Osasuna = Granero, Alonso, Ozil ---> result = Osasuna 1-5 Real Madrid

Football is always the way forward. And until now, Jose has gotten this wrong every time we have played Barcelona. Even in the final of the Copa del Rey, although we played with a trivote, the mentality was right! We started off that game trying to play football, getting players forward, and generally speaking 'going for it'. When we started to fall back, trying to soak up the pressure we very nearly pissed the game away and if it were not for a very lucky decision on Pedrito's goal that was ruled out for offside we most likely would have lost the match. But then in the over time we swung back and indeed the build up for the winning goal game after some very nice interplay in the Barcelona half of the field. We had 6 players forward and the rest is history.

Jose's big error in every two-legged tie against Barcelona is that he has come out with the progressive tactics and mentality in the first leg, which has seen us well beaten each time. Then in the second leg when we are forced to go for it, as Real Madrid has made a habit of doing throughout its history, we have gotten favourable results against the so-called greatest team ever leaving everyone asking: If we had just played like that in the first leg, what would have happened? If we had not dug such a great hole by losing the home leg because we were not even trying to play football, maybe we could have passed?

Jose will have possibly two more opportunities to correct his past errors. IMO we have to get a positive result in the Camp Nou in the league to win the title. I have thought this even back in December when there was a 10 point lead. And if we face those f*ckers in the CL final, well, it is win or nothing.

As they say "rectificar es de sabios". It's ok Super. Mourinho is starting to see the light. It's not too late to save your footballing soul...

To FOOTBALL!

this might be old news / already covered... but this is the first time I'm seeing it, and it makes me cringe... sell-outs Madrid elect profit over tradition.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/soccer-dirty-tackle/real-madrid-small-distinct-change-crest-uae-resort-202900831.html

Jaime wrote:"Super is even further to the left than Mourinho himself"

BRING BACK THE SIGS

Well, who would have thought Valencia's shitty defence would hold us to 0-0 in the Bernabeu? Can't fault the approach really. And we created enough chances but to be fair Guaita was in really good form. I do regret Higuain coming off, these are the sorts of games where he has a habit of scoring.

Absolutely APPALLING that we were not given a single penalty after there were probably 5 or 6 times when there was shirt pulling in the box for a corner. I think it's pretty obvious that SOMEONE doesn't want us to win the league.

Pepe is back to being a disgrace. First nobody believes that little Piatti was ever going to take him out so violently and then he ends up kicking poor Arbeloa when he's rolling around on the floor.

Next three weeks are going to decide the season. Madrid derby, the CL semifinals, and the clasico...

Jose FC won't bottle this - this stage 2 years ago Roma threatened Inter in a similar manner.

(I secretly hope you do... just so Jaime will be proven right - a club like Los Blancos should never ever sell its soul to that club-hopping mercenary)

Deluded F*ck™ wrote:Jose FC won't bottle this - this stage 2 years ago Roma threatened Inter in a similar manner.

That's what I draw parallels to as well...but Madrid's run-in is tougher than Inter's run-in that year. They did play Roma away (and lost) but only had Juve as a tough game IIRC. But Madrid have to play Atletico (though given the history we can't be too optimistic about it) and Athletic away (come on Bielsa do us a favour), as well as Sevilla at home. And of course the Clasico.

Barça have the Clasico, and some 'medium' games in Levante/Rayo away (only medium due to their league positions/good form, and Barça's awful away form), and Malaga/Espanyol at home.

Could even go as far to say that Madrid are still playing more impressively than Barca. Madrid's performance against Valencia was better than Barcelona's against Zaragoza.

But Barcelona are on a 9 match winning streak in the league now, and I'd be surprised if they drop anymore points, apart from possibly el classico.

Yes, I think that's a valid point. I'd be more inclined to put money on a Madrid win in any given game, than a Barça win.

fcb wrote:Yes, I think that's a valid point. I'd be more inclined to put money on a Madrid win in any given game, than a Barça win.

No surprise here then

fcb wrote:Yes, I think that's a valid point. I'd be more inclined to put money on a Madrid win in any given game, than a Barça win.

Dats coz your tripping blud.

I thought we played well and Mou threw everything at them and you can't always win. We had our chances and we didn't take them and so you get punished. I still think we will win the league but these drops are disappointing.

Deluded F*ck wrote:(I secretly hope you do... just so Jaime will be proven right - a club like Los Blancos should never ever sell its soul to that club-hopping mercenary)

Super Pepe wrote:I thought we played well and Mou threw everything at them and you can't always win. We had our chances and we didn't take them and so you get punished. I still think we will win the league but these drops are disappointing.

P.S. When did worms become black?

Jaime wrote:

Super Pepe wrote:I thought we played well and Mou threw everything at them and you can't always win. We had our chances and we didn't take them and so you get punished. I still think we will win the league but these drops are disappointing.

P.S. When did worms become black?

Its not worms

Its a brand new poster who has amassed 1900+ posts in a day.

I had to book a plane ticket today, now nothing special. But anyone else sees the resamblance between



And Mourinho?

Both are pricefighters then will do anything to achieve their goal, now your hearth might not agree with this, but your brain says yes.

As for the collapse, the gap is still 4 points, and not 1 like some will make you believe. Infact I think we are gonna win at Nou Camp! And the CL too!

Then Moureen will fuck off, with all the fans being happy. Only to want him back after a few less succesful years later!

I happen to love Ryanair.

Decent little spell here from Getafe. Amazing what can happen when you try to play football!

Dont know if anyone has also noticed but why does Arbeloa always allow the wide players to cross the ball its really pissing me off. I dont actually get what he is trying to do, a player recieves the ball out wide and he runs off towards the center back with his hand behind his back before the player even moves towards him. Put pressure and block the FUCKING CROSS!!!

Marcelo sometimes does the same thing but then even if he goes to make a challange or block the cross he inevitably fails

Our Full-Back situation is concern for me at the moment in my opinion.

Very important win and a great performance by Ronaldo who finally gives us the one man show when we really needed it. Atletico gave us all the problems I figure they would and without Ronaldo I don't think we would have won. Atletico didn't create that many chances but we looked vulnerable on the wings. Arbeloa is not in great form at the moment so Jose should consider moving Ramos out there and Varane at Cb. Good performance by Ozil who should have started because Kaka did nothing except slow things down. He only makes sense coming in from the bench. Also this was a game for Higuain to start imo.

Anyway now it's







I love the new celebration

Progress

Super Pepe wrote:Very important win and a great performance by Ronaldo who finally gives us the one man show when we really needed it. Atletico gave us all the problems I figure they would and without Ronaldo I don't think we would have won. Atletico didn't create that many chances but we looked vulnerable on the wings. Arbeloa is not in great form at the moment so Jose should consider moving Ramos out there and Varane at Cb. Good performance by Ozil who should have started because Kaka did nothing except slow things down. He only makes sense coming in from the bench. Also this was a game for Higuain to start imo.

Anyway now it's







I love the new celebration

Progress

Yea I agree definetly Ozil should have started. I personally prefer Benzema but I can see what you mean about this game bieng one Higuain should have started.

Cristiano wrote:Dont know if anyone has also noticed but why does Arbeloa always allow the wide players to cross the ball its really pissing me off. I dont actually get what he is trying to do, a player recieves the ball out wide and he runs off towards the center back with his hand behind his back before the player even moves towards him. Put pressure and block the FUCKING CROSS!!!

Marcelo sometimes does the same thing but then even if he goes to make a challange or block the cross he inevitably fails

Our Full-Back situation is concern for me at the moment in my opinion.

I don't know what happened to Arbeloa and I honestly don't think Coentrao is that much better defensively than Marcelo. He just stays back more and is more sensible which Marcelo did as well last season next to Carvalho. The Saviour will have to fix this because Bayern are strong down the flanks. I saw Bayern today and thankfully they prefer cutting in since our problems is more with those that go to the backline and rely on crossing. So we really need Di Maria on the flank to help us defensively. I wouldn't mind a trivote at the least as we are looking a bit tired. Although it could just be with Sahin/Granero or traditional Lass/Coentrao.

Ronaldo, Di Maria, and Coentrao all one yellow card away from missing the clasisco. I wouldn't play any of them against Sporting to be honest.

Especially not Di Maria, he'll probably end up getting injured again