Champions League Quarter-finals Thread

Fey wrote:

Kroos wrote:

Fey wrote:It's more recent that Feyenoord won a European cup then any given German team..I think that says it all. Though the German league is on the rise for sure, they do need to get some silverware fast. I did enjoy the tedious Bundesliga propaganda commercials in asia. It could have been made by Kroos!

thats awesome, tell me about it, maybe you find something on youtube

Already tried, I only get WW2 stuff, fuckin asians It was so awesome, it was about the fact that you have the best youngsters in the world. The most goals per game, which is nonsense cause the Eredivisie has more I believe. Also you had the best stadiums in the world with the best atmosphere, best referees etc.

I swear you could have made it, needless to say I was thinking about you when I watched it

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

Kroos wrote:Italy has no golden generation, just a few gems, but the backbone for every top league are homegrown players

FFP

no money from Berlusconi, Moratti........

building new arenas and infrastructure will hinder clubs to strengthen there squads



thats good reasons why i believe that italien club football will need some time to reach top level again

2006 was completly different, the MILAN side peaked at this time, and your golden generation from italy too,

italy made just 2 semifinals since 2007, hardly impressive, and both snatched the title

All this goes to show is that Germans these days are a bunch of bottle jobs as shown by Bayern last year and 2010. When italian clubs reached the final, they finished the job.

Tarun wrote:Buddy...I find your words like 'utterly raped' a bit out of place! This is our first CL QF after a long gap & this is a side that is rebuilding. And what do you expect Buffon & Pirlo to do after losing? Laugh!!!

That said congratulations to Bayern for the win! They were the better side by miles over the 2 legs & there is no embarrassment to lose to a side like them.

Had we drawn against sides like Barca & RM I would have expected the same outcome. We are not a side that is ready yet & yesterday's loss shows that there is much to improve for the personnel in the team as well as the experience of the relatively new coach in Conte. But I am sure we will be featuring a bit more regularly in the UCL from now on.

Kroos wrote:A SWEET WIN IN ITALY

LOVED THE SAD FACES FROM BUFFON AND PIRLO

UTTERLY RAPED


and compared to gomez, mandz. is way slower, like i said numerous times, beside his workrate he is utter shit, 2 goals in the cl, gomez scored 12 last season,, but i can`t deny it, he is an animal in terms of working and pressing, thats also helpful for teammates, not sure if it`s as helpful as a nice lead, thats would gomez offer

PURO i wouldn`t be to excited, i am sure gomez will play

Kroos wrote:i expect a german final

THINK ABOUT IT

dortmund is more balanced, there first 11 is as good as madrids, they defend as team, they create chances for fun, they just have to convert them


barca is beatable, our wingplay, our steel in midfield, our world class full backs and pressing will RIP THEMA APART

messiah wrote:Certainly won't be a all Spanish final but their could be a all Germany won.
We need to give pep a call in order to beat Bayern so we can get back our awesomeness and by awesomeness I mean xavi gives us one of those games if he does as always zero percent change we lose.

Jaime wrote:

Kroos wrote:i expect a german final

THINK ABOUT IT

dortmund is more balanced, there first 11 is as good as madrids, they defend as team, they create chances for fun, they just have to convert them


barca is beatable, our wingplay, our steel in midfield, our world class full backs and pressing will RIP THEMA APART

I was more impressed with Dortmund when we played them in the group stages than what I saw against Malaga. It will be a Bayern-Real Madrid final methinks.

Pierre Littbarski wrote:Mandzukic suspended for 1st leg of semi.

He works hard for the team and is maybe a better penalty box striker than Gomez but Gomez is quicker and can strike the ball with either foot from outside the box and I think is better.

Jaime wrote:

Kroos wrote:i expect a german final

THINK ABOUT IT

dortmund is more balanced, there first 11 is as good as madrids, they defend as team, they create chances for fun, they just have to convert them


barca is beatable, our wingplay, our steel in midfield, our world class full backs and pressing will RIP THEMA APART

I was more impressed with Dortmund when we played them in the group stages than what I saw against Malaga. It will be a Bayern-Real Madrid final methinks.

Super Mourinho wrote:

Jaime wrote:

Kroos wrote:i expect a german final

THINK ABOUT IT

dortmund is more balanced, there first 11 is as good as madrids, they defend as team, they create chances for fun, they just have to convert them


barca is beatable, our wingplay, our steel in midfield, our world class full backs and pressing will RIP THEMA APART

I was more impressed with Dortmund when we played them in the group stages than what I saw against Malaga. It will be a Bayern-Real Madrid final methinks.

Yeah Dortmund were very dangerous at Malaga but they looked uninspired at home and were not for that absolute fool that is Demichelis they would have gone through. In that respect I'm happy we are playing away first.

bluenine wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:Bayern comfortable over the 2 legs and without Kroos tonight that's no mean feat.

Juventus one of the best teams in Europe (prob 5th) but clearly a step down from Bayern.

Which is fine but its not too easy to see where they can strengthen - if you take tonight's 1st team but with Lichsteiner RWB its only really Quagliarella (occasionally brilliant) who is the obvious one to be upgraded.

The most satisfying thing about this is that we have the 4 best teams in Europe in the semis so the draw has worked out well.

Its not just Litchsteiner, but also Vidal who is one of the best in the world in his position IMO. Juve are clearly a step below the european heavyweights at the mo, and that showed last night. To close the gap, Juve need to make a few changes:

1. A top striker or two. Quag & Vucinic could be decent options for the bench, but Juve need top quality starting strikers. A player like Suarez will make all the difference. I would suggest that they get rid of Anelka, Bendtner, Giovinco, and Matri, and get two forwards, a top CF like Suarez/Martinez and a support striker like Sanchez. This is the most obvious step up that uve need, and they have to spend big here to make that step up. There is no shortcut here.

2. Get rid of the 3-man defense. Its too tactically limiting for Europe.

3. If they have money after point 1, then they need to improve on Bonucci. Or get a top LB, and play Chiellini-Barzagli in the middle.

4. If they still have money left, get a Pirlo replacement - he cannot go on forever at this level.

In an ideal world, this would mean 4 top player buys for Juve, for example players like:

IN: Suarez, Baines, Verratti, Sanchez

The first two are critical, the latter two are desirable. Imagine a Juve starting XI like this, those 3 new players transform the quality of the team:

SUAREZ
Asamoah -------------------------- SANCHEZ
Marchisio --- Vidal
Pirlo
BAINES - Chiellini - Barzagli - Litchsteiner
Buffon

Of course this is unrealistic under the current financial climate. But if I were Marrotta, I would focus all the transfer budget to get two players of Suarez and Baines quality. Vucinic/Quag could fill in for Sanchez for now. And Pirlo replacement could wait another year.

Its time for Juve to focus on world class or near world class players. 1-2 such players every window, and they will get there sooner rather than later.