bluenine wrote:Jaime wrote:I can't figure this group out. I have no idea who will qualify.
Benfica and Leverkusen I think.
The first 60 minutes have shat all over my predictions
bluenine wrote:Jaime wrote:I can't figure this group out. I have no idea who will qualify.
Benfica and Leverkusen I think.
Murray wrote:It was not a good idea to have a thread for each group
Luis wrote:Anfield on a European night!
Fey wrote:Lovely goal immobile to make it 1-0 for Dortmund. Arsenal look weak. Though Wellback should have scored.
bluenine wrote:Fey wrote:Lovely goal immobile to make it 1-0 for Dortmund. Arsenal look weak. Though Wellback should have scored.
Good goal by Immobile. Balotelli also scored for Liverpool. Now for Cerci to score for Atletico, and Conte will be happy.
Interesting how so many Italian players are involved today for non-italian teams. That in itself is a sign of the decline of Serie A, it cannot keep hold of its best local talents.
Well he included him in the 30 pre-call notices he sent out before the Holland and Norway games.Fey wrote:bluenine wrote:Fey wrote:Lovely goal immobile to make it 1-0 for Dortmund. Arsenal look weak. Though Wellback should have scored.
Good goal by Immobile. Balotelli also scored for Liverpool. Now for Cerci to score for Atletico, and Conte will be happy.
Interesting how so many Italian players are involved today for non-italian teams. That in itself is a sign of the decline of Serie A, it cannot keep hold of its best local talents.
Yet Conte refuses to give Pelle a shot...
Yep Balotelli has never been, and never will be, a proper first striker.Crouching Tiger wrote:Balotelli couldn't lead the line by himself but started playing a lot better when Borini came on and freed him up some space. Thought Lallana was poor and didn't contribute much at all - it was strange starting him and Coutinho because they kind of do the same job and having them both on the pitch seems to mean we play more in front of the opposition defence rather than behind it.
Crouching Tiger wrote:Bit worried about how the seasons going to pan out based on recent viewing. We were VERY lucky to win today.
Balotelli couldn't lead the line by himself but started playing a lot better when Borini came on and freed him up some space. Thought Lallana was poor and didn't contribute much at all - it was strange starting him and Coutinho because they kind of do the same job and having them both on the pitch seems to mean we play more in front of the opposition defence rather than behind it.
Defense is again looking very fragile with lots of mistakes. We were opened up whenever they came forward and we couldn't seem to deal with Villa at the weekend either. Still not fully convinced by Lovren and Sakho. Don't think Manquillo can cut it at this level either.
We would have hammered that team with Suarez last season and even though it's early days I'm not convinced how all of Brendan's spending is going to help us this year. Maybe I'm being too pessimistic, but I think we've lost our mojo.
TheCrazy58 wrote:My thread disappeared just as I finished writing the rant below
FT 2 - 0. Absolute shocker. I've rarely seen us play so badly collectively. Never mind the patched up defence, Bellerin did very little wrong under the circumstances. It was Kos and Mert who were well off the boil and let Dortmund through time and again. To be fair the real problem in MF - Arteta was woeful, the fact that AW hooked him on the hour (something he rarely does, he always leaves substitutions far too late to meaningfully impact the match) shows how desparate it was.Wilshere seems to have developed a perverse habit of insisting on extra touches when there are five oppositions players bearing down on him. Ramsey has disappeared since the opening day; Wellbeck channelled his inner Sanogo. The only one to have come out with any credit was AOC. We were actually lucky to get away with 2 - 0. Had it not beeen for Mkhitaryan's uselessness in front of goals, it could have been another 6 - 0.
Having said this, this was always going to be the hardest fixture. Nothing to do but dust ourselves down and do better next.
bluenine wrote:TheCrazy58 wrote:My thread disappeared just as I finished writing the rant below
FT 2 - 0. Absolute shocker. I've rarely seen us play so badly collectively. Never mind the patched up defence, Bellerin did very little wrong under the circumstances. It was Kos and Mert who were well off the boil and let Dortmund through time and again. To be fair the real problem in MF - Arteta was woeful, the fact that AW hooked him on the hour (something he rarely does, he always leaves substitutions far too late to meaningfully impact the match) shows how desparate it was.Wilshere seems to have developed a perverse habit of insisting on extra touches when there are five oppositions players bearing down on him. Ramsey has disappeared since the opening day; Wellbeck channelled his inner Sanogo. The only one to have come out with any credit was AOC. We were actually lucky to get away with 2 - 0. Had it not beeen for Mkhitaryan's uselessness in front of goals, it could have been another 6 - 0.
Having said this, this was always going to be the hardest fixture. Nothing to do but dust ourselves down and do better next.
I have been saying this for a while now... what Arsenal are missing (and missing badly) is a proper DM. Something like what Vieira and Petit used to be. Arteta looks uncomfortable in that role, and Flamini just doesn't have the quality for it. Against weaker opposition, the quality in the attack makes up for this issue. But against big teams, this weakness gets exposed almost everytime.
I just cannot understand why Wenger refuses to do anything about it. I don't buy the "its not our philosophy to play a DM" or the "Attractive football" arguments, Arsenal used to play with Vieira and Petit, and were a more attractive team to watch in those days. I also don't buy the "no such opportunity existed in the summer" argument either, because a lot of quality DMs were available - hell, Inter got M'Vila and Medel and we hardly had any money. City got Fernando on a cheap. There were many options.
Apparently it's 3 at the back: Alaba, Boateng, Benatia with Rafinha and Benat as wingbacks.Kroos wrote:neuer
rafinha-benatia-boateng-bernat
-lahm--alonso-alaba
-------götze
--müller-----lewa
something like that
Fey wrote:Watching Roma's Gervinho...how could Arsenal let him go, he gave such a liquid pass for the 1-0...could he be the one?
Murray wrote:Fey wrote:Watching Roma's Gervinho...how could Arsenal let him go, he gave such a liquid pass for the 1-0...could he be the one?
He's scored 2 goals now.
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