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    Post by Forza It Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:09 pm

    In continuing with tradition, Raymond Domenech and Willy Sagnol have been crying about the Final and have called for a cleansing of Materazzi-like figures in the game (no not World Champions but in their view wind-up merchants and cheats). Sagnol even thought it was scandalous that Materazzi is allowed on the field still. I guess the question is do they want cheese with what they are having?

    But Materazzi’s response was priceless…he said Willy who, when asked about Sagnol but he reserved the more piercing comment for Domenech: “As a champion of the World I do not have time to respond to a coach who bases his selections on horoscopes (alluding to reports that Domenech strongly believe in astrology and even makes team selections based on it. Allegedly, Trez was ommitted because he was a scorpio).

    Long live Materazzi, the champion of the world Smile
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    Post by Axeslammer Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:34 pm

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

    Long live Materazzi, the best cheat of the world Smile

    He's a disgrace for the sport, although not for the reasons Domenech has mentioned.
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    Post by Forza It Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:53 pm

    Axeslammer ! wrote:
    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

    Long live Materazzi, the best cheat of the world Smile

    He's a disgrace for the sport, although not for the reasons Domenech has mentioned.

    What worse than Roy Keane? Poulsen? Kluivert (was he not involved in gang-rape accusations)? Mihajlovic the racist?

    Materazzi can play football also, as France and many others can testify.
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    Post by Parks lives Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:56 pm

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    Axeslammer ! wrote:
    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

    Long live Materazzi, the best cheat of the world Smile

    He's a disgrace for the sport, although not for the reasons Domenech has mentioned.

    What worse than Roy Keane?

    Suspect
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    Post by Deano Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:56 pm

    Why is Materazzi a cheat??
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    Post by Forza It Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:01 pm

    Parks Lives wrote:
    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    Axeslammer ! wrote:
    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

    Long live Materazzi, the best cheat of the world Smile

    He's a disgrace for the sport, although not for the reasons Domenech has mentioned.

    What worse than Roy Keane?

    Suspect

    My point was I don't think Roy Keane is a disgrace (Halland episode was brutal though)...the others verge on it. But branding someone a disgrace because they use their head and try to get your opponent to lose focus smacks of bitterness.
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    Post by Forza It Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:02 pm

    italian_hammer(DEANO!) wrote:Why is Materazzi a cheat??

    Right...why is he? He stays on his feet is a tough tackler who likes to $h!t talk.

    I keep bringing this debate up because the French camp CANNOT LET IT GO!
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    Post by Deano Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:07 pm

    hahaha

    FORZA MATRIX Ale
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    Post by theflyingfrenchman Fri Sep 29, 2006 6:55 pm

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    italian_hammer(DEANO!) wrote:Why is Materazzi a cheat??

    Right...why is he? He stays on his feet is a tough tackler who likes to $h!t talk.

    I keep bringing this debate up because the French camp CANNOT LET IT GO!

    Because he kicks Sheva in the bollocks and elbows Sorin in the face?

    Apart from getting ZZ sent off and scoring a goal, MM wasn't that good in the final.
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    Post by TheCrazy58 Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:18 pm

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote: Allegedly, Trez was ommitted because he was a scorpio).

    Actually that was Robert Pires. Trezeguet (born on 15/10/1977) is a Libra. Domenech is reportedly suspicious of Leos though that hasn't stopped him selecting Henry. According to his theory Taureans (me!) make good footballers. Smiley
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    Post by Tom Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:18 pm

    TheCrazy58 wrote:
    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote: Allegedly, Trez was ommitted because he was a scorpio).

    Actually that was Robert Pires. Trezeguet (born on 15/10/1977) is a Libra. Domenech is reportedly suspicious of Leops though that hasn't stopped him selecting Henry. According to his theory Taureans (me!) make good footballers. Smiley
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    Post by TheCrazy58 Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:40 pm

    You know Domenech might be onto something there....

    List of Taurean footballers (and this is just a quick survey of those who are currently playing)

    van Bommel (22/4)
    Pauleta (28/4)
    Borowski, Beckham (2/5)
    Fabregas (4/5)
    Wiltord (10/5)
    Iniesta (11/5)
    Pirlo (19/5)
    Cech, Casillas(20/5)
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:43 pm

    what about piecses?
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    Duff (2/3)
    Veron (9/3)
    Sagnol (18/3)
    Nesta (19/3)
    Torres (20/3)
    Ronaldinho (21/3) - this might be Aries depending on which horoscope you read.

    Also, Kaka (22/4), Sorin (5/5) and Forlan (19/5) are also Taureans.
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    Post by theflyingfrenchman Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:12 am

    You forgot me, i'm a taurean.
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    Post by A & K Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:14 pm

    Forza get over it! I think the main problem in all these childish stories about Materazi comes from the media. In fact, it's their fault because they keep asking stupid questions to players or Domenech and obviously they don't respond well. I find this strange because not a long time ago, Domenech was saying well done to Italy, you are world champions, end of story. But the medias keep going on and they should stop about it, there's no point argying on that, what happened happened. I think they asked Sagnol, who's not very clever and apparently childish, because he was facing Inter in the Champions league.
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    Post by theflyingfrenchman Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:59 pm

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:In continuing with tradition, Raymond Domenech and Willy Sagnol have been crying about the Final and have called for a cleansing of Materazzi-like figures in the game (no not World Champions but in their view wind-up merchants and cheats). Sagnol even thought it was scandalous that Materazzi is allowed on the field still. I guess the question is do they want cheese with what they are having?

    But Materazzi’s response was priceless…he said Willy who, when asked about Sagnol but he reserved the more piercing comment for Domenech: “As a champion of the World I do not have time to respond to a coach who bases his selections on horoscopes (alluding to reports that Domenech strongly believe in astrology and even makes team selections based on it. Allegedly, Trez was ommitted because he was a scorpio).

    Long live Materazzi, the champion of the world Smile

    You do realise Sagnol said this about Materazzi after he made a horror tackle on lucio, and Grosso elbowed Sagnol in the face?
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    Post by Pirlo Sun Oct 01, 2006 8:14 pm

    If you cut the 'provocation' and 'gamesmanship' from Materazzi's game he could be one of the best defenders on the planet - no question.

    Off the pitch, he is a really nice person - the old cliche, but true.

    Unfortunately, he seems to be schooled in this art - he is overly physical to and beyond the point of brutality - admittedly Sorin is no angel, but his behaviour in the Milan derby a few years ago is legendary - and he clearly loves to provoke.

    I am no fan of Materazzi, but he exists as a means to an end. He will provoke, and the opposition generally ends up as the worse for it. It's all a matter of taste of what people's philosophies on how to obtain results, how far you will go to win. I love to win, and i generally will advocate 'intelligent' gamesmanship and tactics, rather than the unsubtle sheer brutality of people like Keane, Materazzi, Navarro etc.
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    Post by bluenine Sun Oct 01, 2006 11:24 pm

    I never thought I would live to see this day.... Milan fans defending Matterazzi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is hope, Pirlo/Forza, you could be kissing blue n black colours soon Laughing
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    Post by Pirlo Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:10 am

    bluenine wrote:I never thought I would live to see this day.... Milan fans defending Matterazzi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is hope, Pirlo/Forza, you could be kissing blue n black colours soon Laughing

    Steady on Bluenine Wink

    I am not 'defending' him as such, i just don't like it for people to dismiss him just because he's a 'target' or they are unhappy with their teams performance and look to blame him for their defeat.

    Make no mistake, i am no fan of his 'style' of play. On the pitch, he is a complete THUG.

    I just happen to believe though that if he cut that shit from his game then he would comfortably occupy a space amongst the worlds best defenders. Look at his performances in the World Cup without all the 'shit' in his game! <Ale>

    If the French are thinking 'WOW, Materazzi is a thug because he says naughty words' then HA! They havn't seen ANYTHING this man is capable of! Wink His provocation of Zidane - no problems with that, perhaps distasteful yes, but hey it goes on ALL THE TIME! The situation was massively overhyped by the medias because: It was a World Cup Final and Zidane's last game. Therefore, it is not the INCIDENT that is the problem, but rather the situational context within which it was placed.

    What was Marco supposed to do? Go 'Hey, it's Zidanes last game i must let him show the world how amazing he is and let him win the World Cup??'

    Come on! Rolling Eyes

    Materazzi's attitude on the pitch STINKS, but his defensive ability and his conduct OFF the pitch are unreproachable.
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    Post by bluenine Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:27 am

    To be honest, he is too accident prone to be among the best in the world, even if you take that mean streak outta him. Luckily for Italy, his "accidents" in teh world cup (a red card and a penalty given in the Final!) did not cost the team and he always made up for it. Many times, they do cost the team, ask any Inter fan.

    His game has a bit of everything - scoring own goals, getting red cards, scoring goals, giving away penalties, awesome tackles, brutal tackles, provoking other to red cards, getting tackled brutally, etc.... The Matrix takes total football to another dimension! Laughing






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    bluenine wrote:I never thought I would live to see this day.... Milan fans defending Matterazzi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is hope, Pirlo/Forza, you could be kissing blue n black colours soon Laughing

    Steady on Bluenine Wink

    I am not 'defending' him as such, i just don't like it for people to dismiss him just because he's a 'target' or they are unhappy with their teams performance and look to blame him for their defeat.

    Make no mistake, i am no fan of his 'style' of play. On the pitch, he is a complete THUG.

    I just happen to believe though that if he cut that shit from his game then he would comfortably occupy a space amongst the worlds best defenders. Look at his performances in the World Cup without all the 'shit' in his game! <Ale>

    If the French are thinking 'WOW, Materazzi is a thug because he says naughty words' then HA! They havn't seen ANYTHING this man is capable of! Wink His provocation of Zidane - no problems with that, perhaps distasteful yes, but hey it goes on ALL THE TIME! The situation was massively overhyped by the medias because: It was a World Cup Final and Zidane's last game. Therefore, it is not the INCIDENT that is the problem, but rather the situational context within which it was placed.

    What was Marco supposed to do? Go 'Hey, it's Zidanes last game i must let him show the world how amazing he is and let him win the World Cup??'

    Come on! Rolling Eyes

    Materazzi's attitude on the pitch STINKS, but his defensive ability and his conduct OFF the pitch are unreproachable.


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    Post by Pirlo Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:29 am

    Laughing

    Such is the engima of the Matrix Wink
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    Post by Pirlo Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:58 pm

    Matrix gives up on Zizou

    Marco Materazzi has admitted he is ready to give up on trying to make peace with Zinedine Zidane.

    The two have not met since the infamous episode during the World Cup Final, when the Frenchman was sent off for headbutting Materazzi, who had provoked Zidane with remarks about his sister.

    "I have tried every possible way to make up with him, but I am just about ready to give up,” said Materazzi from Italy’s training venue in Coverciano, where the Azzurri are preparing for Saturday’s Euro 2008 clash with Ukraine.

    “I told FIFA I was ready to resolve this, but now I’m tired of this situation. In the end I was the only one to pay.”

    Both players were fined and banned by FIFA and Zidane, who is now retired, agreed to do community service work with children and youngsters.

    “I keep on hearing nasty comments about me, including Coach Raymond Domenech’s latest statements saying I’m top of the list of the provocative players,” he added.

    “This is untrue, but I have decided I prefer to ignore these things.”

    Inter are going through a difficult moment after the new Telecom scandal and the disappointing performances on the pitch.

    “After we were assigned the last Scudetto we have been depicted in the wrong way,” Matrix insisted.

    “Someone says this Scudetto is cursed. I only know that I want to win another one on the pitch, so we can finally celebrate as we deserve to do after 17 years.”

    The Azzurri ace also sided with Christian Vieri, who threatened to sue Massimo Moratti and his club after he was informed that he was tailed by the Via Durini outfit.

    “I think Vieri only wants to protect himself, it is never nice when your personal life becomes public,” he said of his former Inter teammate.

    “He is a man of honour and has given five years of his life to Inter, I understand his disappointment.”
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    Post by OP9 Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:01 pm

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    italian_hammer(DEANO!) wrote:Why is Materazzi a cheat??

    Right...why is he? He stays on his feet is a tough tackler who likes to $h!t talk.

    I keep bringing this debate up because the French camp CANNOT LET IT GO!

    Yeah you are right...Al italians play that way so its pretty normal

    Its like trying to tell C Ronaldo to pass the ball form time to time.
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    Post by Oleguerisntthatbad Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:11 pm

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    Axeslammer ! wrote:
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    Long live Materazzi, the best cheat of the world Smile

    He's a disgrace for the sport, although not for the reasons Domenech has mentioned.

    What worse than Poulsen?

    You Italians are just upset that he managed to mark Totti out of a game (who very gentlemanly then spat on Poulsen), messed up Kaká's flair (proving that he is a mere mortal) and beat Gattusso at his own game Doh Laugh


    (I am sure that our bundesliga posters will confirm that Poulsen is a particularly dirty player..)
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    Post by Forza It Fri Oct 06, 2006 12:38 am

    [quote="Oleguerisntthatbad"]
    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    Axeslammer ! wrote:
    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

    Long live Materazzi, the best cheat of the world Smile

    He's a disgrace for the sport, although not for the reasons Domenech has mentioned.

    What worse than Poulsen?

    You Italians are just upset that he managed to mark Totti out of a game (who very gentlemanly then spat on Poulsen), messed up Kaká's flair (proving that he is a mere mortal) and beat Gattusso at his own game Doh Laugh


    (I am sure that our bundesliga posters will confirm that Poulsen is a particularly dirty player..)

    beat Gattuso at his own game? Gattuso ran up to Poulsen and started celebrating. Poulsen honestly looked like he was going to cry out of fear. Milan won that game at the San Siro btw and drew the first one. So really Milan came out the winners by all standards.
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    Post by A & K Fri Oct 06, 2006 9:00 am

    Having an important role to play to French Media and French people Domenech shouldn't say anything about Materazi coz this won't change anything anyway. He's really a twat!

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