Is Pepe Reina the new Tim Howard?

Very good and commanding first season, shocking second season.

Have you ever seen a keeper stand behind his wall before?

In a parellel universe he could be loaned to Man City at the end of the season.

No. Is Wayne Rooney the new Stephan Hughes?

Did he make a gaff today? What was it like?

Kimbo wrote:Did he make a gaff today? What was it like?

He didn't save a freekick...

Nah tim howards mistakes were down to him being so nervous, reina's are due to him being shite

Golden Gloves what?

Obispo wrote:

Kimbo wrote:Did he make a gaff today? What was it like?

He didn't save a freekick...

Yes, the wall was in his way. But he could have done better.

Another goal from outside his area.

Kimbo wrote:Did he make a gaff today? What was it like?

He lined his wall up leaving one side of the goal open, then rather than stand in that open space he stood behind the wall.

Guess where the free kick went in.

Obispo wrote:Golden Gloves what?

I've acknowledged his good first season.

Whats happening this one though?

He's had a poor start to the season. ... Weren't you the one complaining the other day about the press writing off Rooney for a poor start to the season, yet you're now doing the exact same thing with Reina...

Obispo wrote:He's had a poor start to the season. ... Weren't you the one complaining the other day about the press writing off Rooney for a poor start to the season, yet you're now doing the exact same thing with Reina...

Ys, but Rooney has been nowhere near as abysmal as Reina.

theflyingfrenchman wrote:

Obispo wrote:He's had a poor start to the season. ... Weren't you the one complaining the other day about the press writing off Rooney for a poor start to the season, yet you're now doing the exact same thing with Reina...

Ys, but Rooney has been nowhere near as abysmal as Reina.

Reina's kept 3 clean sheets. Rooney's scored 2 goals...

Obispo wrote:

theflyingfrenchman wrote:

Obispo wrote:He's had a poor start to the season. ... Weren't you the one complaining the other day about the press writing off Rooney for a poor start to the season, yet you're now doing the exact same thing with Reina...

Ys, but Rooney has been nowhere near as abysmal as Reina.

Reina's kept 3 clean sheets. Rooney's scored 2 goals...

Rooney's been suspended a few games though.

Obispo wrote:He's had a poor start to the season. ... Weren't you the one complaining the other day about the press writing off Rooney for a poor start to the season, yet you're now doing the exact same thing with Reina...

Yes but Rooney's been struggling for fitness, since his return of the World cup. Whats Reina's excuse?

Parks Lives wrote:

Obispo wrote:He's had a poor start to the season. ... Weren't you the one complaining the other day about the press writing off Rooney for a poor start to the season, yet you're now doing the exact same thing with Reina...

Yes but Rooney's been struggling for fitness, since his return of the World cup. Whats Reina's excuse?

I'd say playing infront of an unsettled back-line is a major problem for a goal-keeper.

Rooney's been struggle for fitness for 4 months or so now. How can that still be an issue? He had a 3 game ban in which he should have been doing nothing but training. He's just playing poorly...Like Reina. The difference is that you're quite happy to write off Reina because he's not a Utd player.

Rooney was not fit for the World cup, played one pre-season game, one competitive game and then had a 3 game ban, hardly preperation for a season.

Reina has no such excuses and has made massive mental errors.

I would give him time , a very bad start of the season though.

So I guess we can judge him like people do with Valdes, forget about how good he his and pick out the silly mistkaes he makes.

Reina is crap, the weak link of the team, blah blah

cule604 wrote:So I guess we can judge him like people do with Valdes, forget about how good he his and pick out the silly mistkaes he makes.

Reina is crap, the weak link of the team, blah blah

Don't forget Sissoko. He can't pass... And Bellamy has never scored a goal in his life. Ever. ... EVER EVER EVER.

If only Alonso didn't go to Madrid

Obispo wrote:

Parks Lives wrote:

Obispo wrote:He's had a poor start to the season. ... Weren't you the one complaining the other day about the press writing off Rooney for a poor start to the season, yet you're now doing the exact same thing with Reina...

Yes but Rooney's been struggling for fitness, since his return of the World cup. Whats Reina's excuse?

I'd say playing infront of an unsettled back-line is a major problem for a goal-keeper.

Rooney's been struggle for fitness for 4 months or so now. How can that still be an issue? He had a 3 game ban in which he should have been doing nothing but training. He's just playing poorly...Like Reina. The difference is that you're quite happy to write off Reina because he's not a Utd player.

"playing in FRONT of an unsettled backline"? With your usual acumen, you've spotted it Bish. That IS a major problem for a keeper. I used to see his dad from time to time for Barsa, and we called him Cinderella, as he was always late to the ball. But we were only indulging in good-natured banter, as that's what Barsa fans are like. Seriously, Lpool have to get better, but to do so they need a new Hamman and Hyppia, or s/ that be Hyypia? Emphasis on NEW.

So are you saying Sissoko isn't good enough Terrypaine?

Intresting.

Parks Lives wrote:So are you saying Sissoko isn't good enough Terrypaine?

Intresting.

or agger ...

oh dear...

did the free kick take a deflection today or did reina just completely misread it?

misread it.

Sissoko isn't the new Hamman. Hamman sat infront of the back 4 intercepting. If anything, Alonso is the new Hamman. He's just not as defensively sound - though it's a small price to pay for his ability on the ball in comparison.

Agger will be far better than Hyypia was. That's nothing against Hyypia, it's just that Agger is going to be top notch.

He won't be as good in the air though.

borocooper wrote:misread it.

Aye. His positioning was poor, but it Speed does hit across the ball. It's almost like a planned slice. Like Ronaldo does on freekicks.

The more I see it the more I'm pissed off that no one closed it down quicker. Campo actually faked the sideways pass 10 seconds before he did it and no one caught on that they were squaring it.

Parks Lives wrote:He won't be as good in the air though.

Y'reckon? He was the only person dealing with Galatasaray's crosses on Wednesday with reasonable success. His heading one said to be one of his main attributes when we signed him.

I reckon he's good in the air, but not physically strong. His leap and his heading are great, but he has a tendancy to get knocked about a bit when a long ball is thrown into the mixer.

Still, a small price to pay for the best of Beckenbauer and Baresi combined

I was never the biggest fan of Hyypia but his heading was fantastic. Not sure Agger will ever be that good at heading, although much better on the ball obviously.

Agger's good at heading though, it's just that Hyypia was probably top 3-5 in the world in his prime and is still amongst the best now (at that). Carragher's good in the air too. It's just that neither of them attack the ball with the same ferocity as Hyypia.

Parks Lives wrote:So are you saying Sissoko isn't good enough Terrypaine?

Intresting.

I'm flattered to be intresting, parkslivs - what's an "e" amomg frindz? What I was trying to say was that don't let's blame Reina for everything. He makes mistakes, unlike us.