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    Post by Parks lives Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:25 am

    Tuesday week isn't it?

    We have the league cup games next week.
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:45 am

    Aye, forgot that Sad

    Damn it, no one cares about the stupid league cup Grr
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    Post by Cesc Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:48 am

    Tweedledum wrote:Damn it, no one cares about the stupid league cup Grr
    Maybe - But bare in mind that many of our young players currently in our first team have gained invaluable experience from the Carling Cup.

    We can also use it for the slightly unfit players like Senderos, Baptista etc...

    <Ale> ok
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:06 pm

    Is Baptista almost fit again?

    i thought he was out for a couple of weeks...
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    Post by S4P Thu Oct 19, 2006 1:40 pm

    TeamSpirit™️ wrote:As a side point - lets put a bit of perspective on this.

    Chelsea won't play much better than this.

    Barcelona won't play much worse than this.

    Yet the score was only 1-0... either Chelsea start taking those chances o0r Whistle

    It's been the same for the whole season, which is really frustrating. I think in every game we've played (excluding Liverpool and Man City) we should have scored 2-3 more goals (including Boro, even though we deserved to lose that one)

    I think some people are underrating just how well the defensive part of our game worked yesterday. Everyone has admitted we were excellent, but I think that Barcelona were poor because we made them play so. We always had 8 outfielders behind the ball when defending, and doubled up on their wingers, closed them down instantly, thus giving the Barca attack little to no chance of playing.
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    Post by S4P Thu Oct 19, 2006 1:41 pm

    Tweedledum wrote:Aye, forgot that Sad

    Damn it, no one cares about the stupid league cup Grr

    ok

    Especially as we face Blackburn away. Not only could we very easily go out, but I can also see 2-3 of our players getting injured in that one.
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    Post by S4P Thu Oct 19, 2006 1:49 pm

    To be fair, the Barcelona website has been very fair too. I was expecting them to say Barca were unlucky not to win/get a draw, but they did all but congratulate us and say we deserved the win.
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    Post by Calidad Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:00 pm

    Chelsea deserved the win, but I thought it was a dire game.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:28 pm

    chelsea were better...
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    Post by fcb Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:03 am

    S4P wrote:To be fair, the Barcelona website has been very fair too. I was expecting them to say Barca were unlucky not to win/get a draw, but they did all but congratulate us and say we deserved the win.

    The website is always fantastic, very very neutral on almost all match reports and articles. There's only an occasional lapse when they're writing about Real Madrid Razz

    If you want some really biased writing to the point of being absolutely hilarious, check out the official Real Madrid website. I haven't read the Getafe match report, but I'm sure it'll paint a totally different picture to what the game actually was like!
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    Post by TheCrazy58 Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:43 am



    If you want some really biased writing to the point of being absolutely hilarious, check out the official Real Madrid website. I haven't read the Getafe match report, but I'm sure it'll paint a totally different picture to what the game actually was like!

    http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/rma34241.htm

    I've seen worse Whistle Mind, if that was what they are pleased to describe as doing 'their best to get back int o the game' ........ Wink
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    Post by S4P Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:33 pm

    With just 5 days to go, Chelsea is looking excellent again. Creating a ridiculous number of chances (unfortunately not putting 80% of them away mind you Neutral) and conceding few goals.

    10 wins and 1 draw in 11 games.
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    Post by golsud Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:38 pm

    Looking forward to the game, hopefully we will be the ones singing after the game and taunting Chelsea fans in the metro!
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    Post by golsud Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:40 pm

    And S4P can you tell your fellow Chelsea fans that we are the current European Champions, it was a bit pathetic that they were singing "Who are ya?" at us. Maybe they thought we were Espanyol scratch

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    Post by S4P Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:54 pm

    cule wrote:And S4P can you tell your fellow Chelsea fans that we are the current European Champions, it was a bit pathetic that they were singing "Who are ya?" at us. Maybe they thought we were Espanyol scratch

    Wink

    Laughing

    I was there that night too cule, it was indeed a brilliant night wasn't it?

    (My flag that was on my seat pre-kick off is hanging on the wall just in front of me Wink)
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    Post by golsud Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:59 pm

    Where were you sitting in relation to the Barça fans?
    I was in the lower shed ,just on the left of the goal, a bit to the back.

    It was a pretty good night, we didn't stop signing! My mates could heard the Barça hymn at the start of the game on tv Very Happy And nobody gave a shit about the non smoking rule, even joints were being smoked in our stand lol
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    Post by S4P Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:07 pm

    cule wrote:Where were you sitting in relation to the Barça fans?
    I was in the lower shed ,just on the left of the goal, a bit to the back.

    It was a pretty good night, we didn't stop signing! My mates could heard the Barça hymn at the start of the game on tv Very Happy And nobody gave a shit about the non smoking rule, even joints were being smoked in our stand lol

    Laughing

    I was West Stand Lower (just below the executive boxes). West Stand is obviously to the left of the Shed End. West Stand (lower and upper combined) holds the most number of seats (twice as many as the shed end obviously)

    Are you still allowed to smoke in public places in Spain by the way (I never actually smoke in the football ground itself now. Just 1 before I go in and 1 after I come out, although I don't go to many games nowadays - due to the inflated prices and demand for tickets)
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    Post by golsud Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:22 pm

    It's been banned in workplaces completely. In pub & clubs there has to be a smokers area, but I've never seen anyone respect the rule in clubs. In stadiums you can smoke everywhere and anything you want lol
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    Post by S4P Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:39 pm

    cule wrote:It's been banned in workplaces completely. In pub & clubs there has to be a smokers area, but I've never seen anyone respect the rule in clubs. In stadiums you can smoke everywhere and anything you want lol

    Yeah, most people do the same, although I prefer not to (even though my boss is cool with it, as at least 80% of workers smoke, and the others aren't bothered about passive smoking).

    Any idea what your line up is most likely to be on Tuesday?
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    Post by golsud Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:45 pm

    No idea tbh. I myself would start Puyol - Thuram as centre backs and Marquez infront of them, with Iniesta instead of Xavi and Saviola for Guddy.
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    Post by S4P Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:47 pm

    Just the 1 striker, with Messi and Ronaldinho behind I assume?

    As a lone striker, Gudjohnsen is poor. However, stick him as a forward playing just off another striker and he is an excellent player (I don't know if you've done this yet)
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    Post by golsud Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:58 pm

    We always play with a lone striker, but with Eto'o out we could try a 4-4-2 with a diamond in the middle.

    Marquez
    Iniesta Deco
    Ronnie

    and upfront Guddy and Saviola, it would certainly surprise Mourinho and the others. Rijkaard won't have the balls to try something new so it'll be the same 4-3-3, hopefully the players will start giving a shit about the games.
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    Post by S4P Fri Oct 27, 2006 12:07 am

    I have a funny feeling they'll be very much up for this one. If Barcelona were to lose, and Bremen win, it means that Barca have to hope Chelsea win in Bremen, or beat Bremen at home (which could be difficult with Eto'o out, and the quality of their defence).

    I won't be too bothered if we lose this one to be honest (although I obviously don't want to lose). We only need 1 win from 3 games to ensure qualification, and, with all due respect, playing Levski at home is all but a guaranteed win.

    Of course, I'd like (and expect) to win the group, but seeing some of the teams who could well finish 2nd (Inter, Real Madrid, Benfica/Celtic etc), I'm not sure finishing 2nd puts you at much more of a disadvantage (although you have to play the home leg 1st)
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    Post by golsud Fri Oct 27, 2006 12:13 am

    Bremen's weakest point is there defence, they leave so many spaces at the back. I think we really need to win on Tuesday to get our morale back, hopefully a thrashing of Recreativo this Saturday will get the spirits up.

    If our players perform then I think we will win even without Eto'o but if they are going to fuck around like Ronaldinho has been doing then we'll get destroyed.

    I'm not really looking forward to visiting Upton Park,the Reebok Stadium and St James' Park so they better qualify for the knock out round!!
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    Post by christmasborocooper Fri Oct 27, 2006 12:23 am

    at least you'd get to come up north
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    Post by S4P Fri Oct 27, 2006 12:32 am

    I wonder if the Barca board (depending on how patient they were) would consider Rijkaard's position if he failed to qualify (absurd I know, but many clubs would)
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    Post by waft the Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:05 am

    no i think rijkaard should play the diamond as cule said...it would shochk mourinho and fuck up his plans
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    Post by S4P Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:38 am

    MightyBarca wrote:no i think rijkaard should play the diamond as cule said...it would shochk mourinho and fuck up his plans

    I think Mourinho will be prepared whatever Barcelona do.

    He's had scouts watching your team play/train about 2 weeks prior to the 1st match and probably has some watching you now.

    If you play the diamond, maybe your team won't be used to it, and it won't work well.

    I think you should, imo, stick to what you know best. It did after all, win you the CL last season.
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    Post by S4P Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:23 pm

    No updates yet on Drogba or Shevchenko, but the team flies to Barcelona today.

    Hopefully the Barcelona fans will decide not to spit in the faces of the Chelsea manager again. Fortunately Mourinho was mature enough to ignore it Wink

    By the way, what has happened to your turf? Shocked Yikes Rolling Eyes I saw the ball kept bouncing off the surface last night (and Deco picked half the turf up!)

    I am surprised the London press and Jose Mourinho and the boys aren't up in arms over this Rolling Eyes Wink

    Nice interesting articles I've been seeing too: Marquez and Deco telling us we're shit compared to last year, and Ronaldinho saying "I'd love to join the blues". Shame Dinho, 'cause Chelsea doesn't want you WinkVery Happy.

    If Drogba and Sheva play, I'd expect the same line-up:

    ----------------Hilario----------------------
    Boulahrouz-Carvalho-Terry-Ashley Cole
    ----------------Makelele--------------------
    ----Essien---------------------Lampard----
    -----------------Ballack---------------------
    ----------Drogba----Shevchenko----------

    However, if they can't make it, I'd expect this line-up:

    ----------------Hilario----------------------
    Boulahrouz-Carvalho-Terry-Ashley Cole
    ----------------Makelele--------------------
    ----Essien---------------------Lampard----
    -----------------Ballack---------------------
    ----Robben----------------------------------
    -----------------------Kalou-----------------
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    Post by fcb Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:25 pm

    Where are these articles? I certainly haven't read them.

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