Barcelona v Chelsea (The European Classic) (Oct 18 & 31)

Effenberg wrote:Does anybody know anything about Gudjohnsen's injury?

I read somewhere it could be cruciate ligament damage. That would mean 6 months out (and not many strikers left in the squad). What a season, eh?

Gudjohnsen`s injury report, but its in spanish.

SAVIOLA PODRÍA SER EL PUNTA AZULGRANA

Gudjohnsen, posible baja ante el Deportivo por una lesión de tobillo
El delantero islandés del FC Barcelona, Eidur Gudjohnsen, sufrió una lesión en la cola del astrágalo del tobillo izquierdo y será sometido a diversas pruebas que determinarán el alcance de la lesión y el tiempo que estará de baja, según informaron los médicos del equipo barcelonista, aunque seguramente se perderá varios partidos, empezando por el de la próxima jornada de Liga ante el Deportivo de La Coruña en Riazor.

Gudjohnsen se lesionó el día que marcó su primer gol como azulgrana en el Camp Nou, precisamente ante su anterior equipo, que supuso el 2-1 para el Barcelona, y tuvo que retirarse del campo a falta de 13 minutos para el final.

El islandés se había hecho con la titularidad debido a la grave lesión de rodilla de Samuel Eto'o, que estará de baja hasta principios de marzo, por lo que su lesión puede darle un sitio en el equipo titular al argentino Javier Saviola, aunque en su lugar entró Ludovic Giuly.

http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/champions/es/desarrollo/704834.html

Anyone out there 'REALLY' think lampard actually meant to score that goal????


After seeing drogba's again it was an exceptionally cool finish... not much space at all to work with

People say cole is crap going forward because he hardly crosses the ball but what people fail to realise is he has played almost his life in a team that doesn't cross. his main attributes going forward are his short one-two's and dragging defenders away to create space for the incoming midfielders to run into( pires was good at that).

La Saeta Rubia wrote:

Effenberg wrote:Does anybody know anything about Gudjohnsen's injury?

I read somewhere it could be cruciate ligament damage. That would mean 6 months out (and not many strikers left in the squad). What a season, eh?

Gudjohnsen`s injury report, but its in spanish.

SAVIOLA PODRÍA SER EL PUNTA AZULGRANA

Gudjohnsen, posible baja ante el Deportivo por una lesión de tobillo
El delantero islandés del FC Barcelona, Eidur Gudjohnsen, sufrió una lesión en la cola del astrágalo del tobillo izquierdo y será sometido a diversas pruebas que determinarán el alcance de la lesión y el tiempo que estará de baja, según informaron los médicos del equipo barcelonista, aunque seguramente se perderá varios partidos, empezando por el de la próxima jornada de Liga ante el Deportivo de La Coruña en Riazor.

Gudjohnsen se lesionó el día que marcó su primer gol como azulgrana en el Camp Nou, precisamente ante su anterior equipo, que supuso el 2-1 para el Barcelona, y tuvo que retirarse del campo a falta de 13 minutos para el final.

El islandés se había hecho con la titularidad debido a la grave lesión de rodilla de Samuel Eto'o, que estará de baja hasta principios de marzo, por lo que su lesión puede darle un sitio en el equipo titular al argentino Javier Saviola, aunque en su lugar entró Ludovic Giuly.

http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/champions/es/desarrollo/704834.html

summary please?

Basicly it says he will possibly miss the next few games, and wont be playing against Depor this weekend. Also says Saviola could start against Depor ...

Ankle injury. They'll do various tests do determine how bad it is.

Cheers, LSR.

La Saeta Rubia wrote:Basicly it says he will possibly miss the next few games, and wont be playing against Depor this weekend. Also says Saviola could start against Depor ...

cheers!

I think most barca fans here would be pleased to hear saviola starting.

Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:

Rosy wrote:

Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:

Rosy wrote:

Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:@cule

Just let them gloat.. seems all the pastic fans are out tonight, hurrying to congratulate Chelsea and their "amazingly fair play" team..

Tomorrow

COTR = COTM
Cesc-Fab = Drog-Fab
Obispo = Chelsea till I die

etc etc

It was probably a fair result in the end so what are you complaining about? Sadly I can't afford to go to many home matches let alone fly to Spain for a game. None of the above are plastic Chelsea fans they are all usually very critical of Chelsea. Perhaps they are just speaking the truth?

They just love it when the Dunkerque "battle till the end" Championship semi-rugby English footballing style prevails..

" We showed those continentals tonight what England is all about, cheating cunts"

What on earth are you talking about? Where did this garbage come from?

From eating too many sour grapes..

I am just disappointed by the result (eventhough it probably was a fair reflection of the game), our failure to cope with physical teams and finally the fact that some people are acting as if we were the only ones "bending" the rules..

I just pointed out that the three people you mentioned are normally very critical of Chelsea so they might just be saying the truth rather than viewing the teams through rose coloured glasses. Nobody has said Barcelona were the only ones 'breaking the rules'. However they could have had two players sent off in the first half so I think it could be argued that they set the tone of the game.

Gudjohnsen suffered an injury to the main bone in the left ankle and that he will have to undergo tests to see what the extent of the injury is and the time he will be out.

He will definitely miss several games which means that Saviola will probably start the next games

COTR wrote:Anyone out there 'REALLY' think lampard actually meant to score that goal????

i do

Hardrada wrote:

COTR wrote:Anyone out there 'REALLY' think lampard actually meant to score that goal????

i do

Me too

Rosy wrote:
I just pointed out that the three people you mentioned are normally very critical of Chelsea so they might just be saying the truth rather than viewing the teams through rose coloured glasses. Nobody has said Barcelona were the only ones 'breaking the rules'. However they could have had two players sent off in the first half so I think it could be argued that they set the tone of the game.

I just think that people on the board, being mainly premiership fans, will probably have a different view of what is a foul than somebody from Spain.. I don't think we were any worse than you lot in the fouling department. On the contrary I think that many of the times that the Chelsea players were pressuring for the ball, they were comitting fouls..

But it is basically down to the referee that completely failed to set a standard early on, allowing too many rough fouls from both teams, which meant the game degenerated into a semi-violent thing..

@ oleguer...

to be fair drogba started the whole thing with his outrageous antics.... he was a total and utter disgrace.. that lit the touch paper and then everyone joined in. worst incident for me though was when essien won a perfectly good header and suddenly ronaldinho and deco come storming in to the ref indicating an elbow had been used (it hadn't) and waving cards in the ref's face...sickening stuff

however there were so many incidents in this game you could pick out any number to support just about any case you wish to make.

has rikkard made any comments yet?.. I love to know what on earth he thought the ref had done wrong to barca

to be fair the ref did stop the match about 45 secs early...

but tbh Marquez and Motta should have both been sent off in the 1st half.

btw I agree Drogba was a bit disgraceful in the 1st 20 mins (altho he was bleeding at one point that was like his 5th injury) but I dont give a shit cos he scored vs Barsa home and away :D:D

Fucking cooper, us Barça fans cheering for the Boro chavs and you're saying fuck the cules, shame on you!

Rijkaard said something along the lines that he "was disappointed with the referee, because he didn't let the added time run out and that it had been a clear benefit for the team that had caused it in the first place with the many fouls"

He also said that he didn't have a problem with Mourinho's celebrations since he obviousely would be very happy.

He also said that the game had been very equal, that it had been a good game, and that Chelsea was a very solid/physical team.

Finally he said that our players left Chelsea too much space to counterattack in and that the players should be better at commiting tactical fouls, despite the fact that it isn't the team's style..

Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:

Rosy wrote:
I just pointed out that the three people you mentioned are normally very critical of Chelsea so they might just be saying the truth rather than viewing the teams through rose coloured glasses. Nobody has said Barcelona were the only ones 'breaking the rules'. However they could have had two players sent off in the first half so I think it could be argued that they set the tone of the game.

I just think that people on the board, being mainly premiership fans, will probably have a different view of what is a foul than somebody from Spain.. I don't think we were any worse than you lot in the fouling department. On the contrary I think that many of the times that the Chelsea players were pressuring for the ball, they were comitting fouls..

But it is basically down to the referee that completely failed to set a standard early on, allowing too many rough fouls from both teams, which meant the game degenerated into a semi-violent thing..

I think we would both agree that a foul is not Deco or indeed Drogba throwing himself to the floor when there is no contact or attemped contact. However the difference is that Drogba gets booed by his own fans when he does it at Stamford Bridge. Deco does it week in week out. Mourinho has something to answer for here as it started at Porto.

chelsea should let bremen win for revenge, barca could be in big trouble if bremen beat chelsea

l r d wrote:chelsea should let bremen win for revenge, barca could be in big trouble if bremen beat chelsea

Then I really hope you draw Werder in the second round and that they crush you..

Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:Rijkaard said something along the lines that he "was disappointed with the referee, because he didn't let the added time run out and that it had been a clear benefit for the team that had caused it in the first place with the many fouls"

He also said that he didn't have a problem with Mourinho's celebrations since he obviousely would be very happy.

He also said that the game had been very equal, that it had been a good game, and that Chelsea was a very solid/physical team.

Finally he said that our players left Chelsea too much space to counterattack in and that the players should be better at commiting tactical fouls, despite the fact that it isn't the team's style..

Tactical fouls like the body check that got Edmilson booked? I think he is being disingenuous there. Of course he leaves his team open to counter attack if he commits so many forward. You can't blame the full back for getting beaten when he keeps getting left 2 on 1.

l r d wrote:chelsea should let bremen win for revenge, barca could be in big trouble if bremen beat chelsea

do u think chelsea prefer finishing second to barca going out of the competition? don't think so.

Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:

l r d wrote:chelsea should let bremen win for revenge, barca could be in big trouble if bremen beat chelsea

Then I really hope you draw Werder in the second round and that they crush you..

lrd isn't a Chelsea supporter so we won't take his advice

Rosy wrote:

Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:

l r d wrote:chelsea should let bremen win for revenge, barca could be in big trouble if bremen beat chelsea

Then I really hope you draw Werder in the second round and that they crush you..

lrd isn't a Chelsea supporter

I know.. Man Utd, right?

Agooner wrote:

l r d wrote:chelsea should let bremen win for revenge, barca could be in big trouble if bremen beat chelsea

do u think chelsea prefer finishing second to barca going out of the competition? don't think so.

lose by just 1 goal and crush letski and they are first?

Agooner wrote:

l r d wrote:chelsea should let bremen win for revenge, barca could be in big trouble if bremen beat chelsea

do u think chelsea prefer finishing second to barca going out of the competition? don't think so.

Definitely not. Chelsea want a nice friendy match Vs Barca in the final! Nice Scottish referee so that we can sort out Mr Deco.

Rosy wrote:

Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:Rijkaard said something along the lines that he "was disappointed with the referee, because he didn't let the added time run out and that it had been a clear benefit for the team that had caused it in the first place with the many fouls"

He also said that he didn't have a problem with Mourinho's celebrations since he obviousely would be very happy.

He also said that the game had been very equal, that it had been a good game, and that Chelsea was a very solid/physical team.

Finally he said that our players left Chelsea too much space to counterattack in and that the players should be better at commiting tactical fouls, despite the fact that it isn't the team's style..

Tactical fouls like the body check that got Edmilson booked? I think he is being disingenuous there. Of course he leaves his team open to counter attack if he commits so many forward. You can't blame the full back for getting beaten when he keeps getting left 2 on 1.

I was just translating.. But the team has suffered from a naive approach to the game, forgetting to track back, leaving too many open spaces, and, Deco being the only one willing to pull a shirt to stop an attack early on... It is not in the spirit of the game, but if you want to win it is something that has to be done at times, especially from the attacking players thereby avoiding the opponents to run directly at Márquez and Puyol.

l r d wrote:

Agooner wrote:

l r d wrote:chelsea should let bremen win for revenge, barca could be in big trouble if bremen beat chelsea

do u think chelsea prefer finishing second to barca going out of the competition? don't think so.

lose by just 1 goal and crush letski and they are first?

Never a good idea to try to lose 1-0

A few points from my view of the game -

a) Chelsea started the diving and nonsense via Drogba and Essien.
b) Marquez should have been sent off, but not for the shove. That's a booking, really, since he gave the same for Messi. Drogba hitting the deck is no measure of the force of the shove, we all know that. Marquez should have gone for the trample on Essien.
c) Carvalho should have been sent off for a high foot and then a blatant kick when going for a header. As with Marquez, UEFA should step in.
d) Both sides had a few moments of top notch football, as such a 2-2 is a fair result.
e) What the fuck happened with Ashley Cole? I can see no reason for Lampard to be the one booked for the first event.
f) Both teams were a disgrace in terms of diving, cheating, whinging, shoving, arguing, asking for cards and snide fouling. Barca in particular tried to make up for a low-tempo, somewhat dull short passing game through cheating. Not a pround night for football on the whole.

Rosy wrote:

Agooner wrote:

l r d wrote:chelsea should let bremen win for revenge, barca could be in big trouble if bremen beat chelsea

do u think chelsea prefer finishing second to barca going out of the competition? don't think so.

Definitely not. Chelsea want a nice friendy match Vs Barca in the final! Nice Scottish referee so that we can sort out Mr Deco.

We will sign George Foreman and Tyson on free for that match.. especially for you

Rosy wrote:

l r d wrote:

Agooner wrote:

l r d wrote:chelsea should let bremen win for revenge, barca could be in big trouble if bremen beat chelsea

do u think chelsea prefer finishing second to barca going out of the competition? don't think so.

lose by just 1 goal and crush letski and they are first?

Never a good idea to try to lose 1-0

What if chelsea misfire against levski? there are no guarantees in football mate