Did Lampard mean to score or cross?

If he'd taken the ball down, faced the keeper, then done it, it would have been hailed as one of the best goals of the CL ever

Is there a video of it yet?

Have you tried typing 'Lampard' and 'Barcelona' into youtube?

italian_hammer(DEANO!) wrote:Was meant to be a cross IMO...I think this because if you see the way Lampard looked up when he struck the ball, it was as if he was looking for a player to play in...

That's true, but I don't think this necessarily means he didn't mean to shoot. In the position Lampard was in, you will always look to pass first. But since Drogba was so far away and surrounded by Barca defenders, I think he decided to shoot. He may not have looked at the goal directly, but he didn't have to. His peripheral vision and sense of positioning could have definitely given him enough leeway to try what he did. He also didn't have much time to take a good look at the goal because he was being closed down.

Nope Obi.. is it not on SSN this morning?

Obispo wrote:Is there a video of it yet?

http://www.rojadirecta.com/foros/viewtopic.php?t=6688

I think he meant it

http://www.vi.nl/vi/show/id=62802/contentid=85106/sc=683c11

all highlights of last nights cl

Totti scored quite a good goal but missed a penalty.

Moutinho hit the cross bar with a free kick, can't remember anything else of note except the Levski keeper having a nightmare

HAHAHAH... How is that even up for dispute?! it's a bloody cross!

But if he meant it it was a cracker

Obispo wrote:HAHAHAH... How is that even up for dispute?! it's a bloody cross!

Let's face it, the only reason why it's even on dispute is because it's Lampard who scored the goal.

I dont see how its conclusive that its a cross. He looked yeah...but how can we know that wasnt just a fake look to fool everyone

The man's the 2nd best player in the world after all.

Tweedledum wrote:But if he meant it it was a cracker

But he didn't, so it doesn't matter.

You can see him looking at Drogba - clearly expecting him to pull away from his marker, and you can see someone else - I can't really see who it is, though I think it may be Robben - Running towards the back post expecting a cross.

Of course it was a fluffed cross for christsakes. Since when does Lampard take a shot that he doesn't absolutely smack? He's as subtle as a kick to the groin.

But Lampard ALWAYS shoots Tone!

Surely you of all people know that

What the f--k does it all matter? Most of the goals you need alot of luck! When Van Basten scored his goal against the USSR you think he already knew he would go in??? He just blindly hitted the ball without thinking!

When Van Persie scored his "Goal of the Season". Was he thinking what he was going to do????

NO

Most of the goals scored are blindly taken so was the goal of Lampard! Does that make Lampard a worse player???? NO, he still is a very good midfielder and one of Englands best midfielders!!

Its sure to boost Lampards morale anyhow and he seems 'back' now, in terms of form.

May well get WPOTY this year

If Bergkamp had done it, he would have meant it though - thats the point I think - If certain players had done it they would mean it whereas others its regarded as a fluke

Deflection.

Obispo wrote:

Tweedledum wrote:But if he meant it it was a cracker

But he didn't, so it doesn't matter.

You can see him looking at Drogba - clearly expecting him to pull away from his marker, and you can see someone else - I can't really see who it is, though I think it may be Robben - Running towards the back post expecting a cross.

Of course it was a fluffed cross for christsakes. Since when does Lampard take a shot that he doesn't absolutely smack? He's as subtle as a kick to the groin.

what i said

Parks Lives wrote:Deflection.

What I said

Isar Truppe wrote:lampard is a better player than most...ballack etc included

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha



Anywho.....it was a fluke of a goal, but if there was even a minute chance that he meant to shoot then he is even more selfish than I thought. Trying that from there when he had players in good positions. Shows what fat frank is all about I guess.

whats so funny....i know some players need time to fit in with a new team but what exactly did ballack do yesterday apart from continually purse his lips and miss a good chance?...not a great deal.

Torrente wrote:

Isar Truppe wrote:lampard is a better player than most...ballack etc included

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha



Anywho.....it was a fluke of a goal, but if there was even a minute chance that he meant to shoot then he is even more selfish than I thought. Trying that from there when he had players in good positions. Shows what fat frank is all about I guess.

I have to admit this is a funny post, but you're being a bit harsh on Lampard. Would you then say the same about Van Basten's goal in the Euro 88 final where he decided to shoot from an impossible angle when he had much better options?

There were also hardly any Chelsea players close to Lampard. Drogba was the closes and he was surrounded by Barca defenders.

so...you seem pretty proud of the fact that you stick to your opinions even when faced with contradicting opinions from numerous experts..which is your right and completely correct...but then you go on to say that someone elses opinion is 'funny'...

lampard is better than ballack and hes WAY more consistant......hes proved it many times...yesterday was yet another example...how many more times do you guys need to be shown that this is the case?

dont panic! wrote:

Torrente wrote:

Isar Truppe wrote:lampard is a better player than most...ballack etc included

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha



Anywho.....it was a fluke of a goal, but if there was even a minute chance that he meant to shoot then he is even more selfish than I thought. Trying that from there when he had players in good positions. Shows what fat frank is all about I guess.

I have to admit this is a funny post, but you're being a bit harsh on Lampard. Would you then say the same about Van Basten's goal in the Euro 88 final where he decided to shoot from an impossible angle when he had much better options?

There were also hardly any Chelsea players close to Lampard. Drogba was the closes and he was surrounded by Barca defenders.

so...you seem pretty proud of the fact that you stick to your opinions even when faced with contradicting opinions from numerous experts..which is your right and completely correct...but then you go on to say that someone elses opinion is 'funny'...

lampard is better than ballack and hes WAY more consistant......hes proved it many times...yesterday was yet another example...how many more times do you guys need to be shown that this is the case?

I meant that the way he insulted Lampard was funny. It was meant to be complimentary. I didn't mean to say that the quality of the post was bad.

And I disagree about Lampard being more consistent than Ballack. He's been slightly better at Chelsea this season, but that's normal given that Ballack has to adapt to the Premiership. With Bayern Leverkusen, Ballack drove the team to the CL final and he was amazing with Bayern Munich as well. Internationally, he's always been miles better than Lampard as well.

COTR wrote:

ricardojol wrote:If Rooney would have scored like that he would have proven he is very creative and the New Pelé but when Lampard scores like that it was just a stupid incident...!

Don't be silly ricardo.. remember ronaldinho's free kick at the world cup against england...

he may well have meant it but only he really knows.

hopefully he comes out and tells us although I doubt he'll be too quick to owning up if it was a fluke

Dinho was 40 yards out, and had 10 or so players in the area he put the ball.

Lampard had nobody running in to the space where he put it.

Definitely meant it. If Gerrard had scored it people would be calling it a wonder strike.

By the way, it's nice to see that Gerrard is finally getting goals again

dont panic! wrote:

Isar Truppe wrote:lampard is a better player than most...ballack etc included

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha



Anywho.....it was a fluke of a goal, but if there was even a minute chance that he meant to shoot then he is even more selfish than I thought. Trying that from there when he had players in good positions. Shows what fat frank is all about I guess.

whats so funny....i know some players need time to fit in with a new team but what exactly did ballack do yesterday apart from continually purse his lips and miss a good chance?...not a great deal.

Although Ballack has been performing well with Lampard, he was poor last night.

He skied a glorious chance from 12 yards out. He hit it so high I think it went into the upper tier.

Then he also hit another free shot over the bar from the edge of the area, where you'd have expected him to hit the target. His composure last night was below-par, whilst Lampard (who was, imo, the best Chelsea player on the park) had superb composure

Although I'm no Ballack fan - I'd like to see Frank drag mediocre teams to CL and WC finals in the same season.

He can't have meant it if he never looked at the goal or the keeper - he looked over his left shoulder and decided to stand one up to teh back post for Drogba/Robben to run on to.

Someone said earlier that "if Pirlo had done it...etc".

Whilst Frank has qualities that Pirlo doesn't have, no one could possibly fail to see the huge gulf in talent between the 2 making that sort of difficult skill being something you'd more likely see from Pirlo.

Lampards goal:

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=2748192651876799220&q=lampard+duration%3Ashort

From watching it, i think he meant it to be a cross, he didn't have a chance to look up, and as a result was attempting in my opinion to simply put the ball back into the danger area, the irony would be he fucked that one up but magically and completely accidentilly scored a wonder goal.

Ive just watched it again on that link, and he does manage to look up twice, once before he gets the ball and you see him look back towards the area of the box where the space is, then looks up just before he strike the ball and sees Drogba running towards the space he just saw, i think those to elements have convinced me that it was not a shot.

I don't think Lampard's a bad player but he can't have meant it, if he meant it he is world class, but his poor ball control that took him that wide and the fact that he was looking at Drogba lead me to believe that this was a fluke. Fat Fluker.