The real ORANJE-ENGLAND topic; before and after the game!

borocooper wrote:Good to see Lawrenson has done his research as always.

"Seen much of Huntelaar?"

"..nothing!"

nice

then the main commenatator (martin tyler?) goes "Right then, well... Hes got 12 in 18 for Ajax, 2 in the U21 final, scored twice on his full debut.... "

Ballack wrote:

borocooper wrote:Good to see Lawrenson has done his research as always.

"Seen much of Huntelaar?"

"..nothing!"

nice

then the main commenatator (martin tyler?) goes "Right then, well... Hes got 12 in 18 for Ajax, 2 in the U21 final, scored twice on his full debut.... "

dont know who the main guy is, havent done my research either. Not Tyler though.

decent effort from Carrick, probably has a nose bleed now.

Best Dutch player: Robben

oh bollocks

shite defending all round there..

borocooper wrote:shite defending all round there..

Lawrenson (for once) is right though.

If the keeper comes and punches that, he either wins a free kick or it gets cleared

aye most likely, but when you cant defend a throw-in...

Gerrard misses sitter no.2 of the game.

Both sides were utter, utter shite.

Can Gerrard and Lampard just retire from International football, Lampard especially.

what a brilliant game eh

S4P wrote:Gerrard misses sitter no.2 of the game.

what about the fact he made the chance jesus.

england were not great, but look much better than the dutch team who looked a bit of a mess to be honest. should of won really but doesnt matter. Johnson never international class. richards did good.

Carrick was shit other than the shot aswell....

If there's anything which will cheer me up a bit it's:

Cyrpus 1-1 World's best ever team

It appears that, without Ballack, the undefeatables may have come home empty handed.

Yes, obviously. Well pointed out because every player had a barn storming game for England, epsecially the midfield.

You're both shit and shouldn't be allowed on TV when you continue to play football like that.

Take note of how Toshak's wales pass the ball. Gorgeous.

Carrick did not much but the player is international class, put lennon on the right and take out lampard for hargreaves or gerrard

S4P wrote:If there's anything which will cheer me up a bit it's:

Cyrpus 1-1 World's best ever team

It appears that, without Ballack, the undefeatables may have come home empty handed.

At least it should shut the reatrd that is deisler up.

l r d wrote:

S4P wrote:Gerrard misses sitter no.2 of the game.

what about the fact he made the chance jesus.

england were not great, but look much better than the dutch team who looked a bit of a mess to be honest. should of won really but doesnt matter. Johnson never international class. richards did good.

Yeah, he did well lifting it over the defender. But I could score from 6 yards out and I'm not earning £100,000 a week.

Owen Thomas wrote:

Both sides were utter, utter shite.

Best analysis I've heard so far

Robinson - 4 Awful, ridiculous kicking, at fault for goal
Cole - 7 Decent
Rio - 6 Good defensively but awful distribution
Terry - 6 Didn't do much
Richards - 7 Good debut
Cole - 6 Played alright but only did one good thing all match
Lampard - 6 Good defensively but poor passing
Carrick - 5 Anonymous
Gerrard - 7 Two sitters, both missed but made both. Good energy but poor passing
Johnson - 6 Poor technically but tried hard
Rooney - 6 Poor decision making and passing

That was just chance Gerrard has vs Chelsea, right into the keepers hands.

LAMPARD - GO!

I love how the BBC just keep banging on about how shit the Dutch are - what about how shit england are! Worse than the Dutch. Zero guile, imagination, endeavour. Hardly strung more than 2 or 3 passes together at a time. Truly it was dismal. I'm glad the Dutch scored - an England win would have disguised how rubbish we were.

Richardson was shit when he came on, SAF sell him in Jan.

Michael Carrick needs to stop being such a fucking pussy in an England midfield. He's better than the rest of that dross.

Lets be honested as an England fan do you like the style of game we play?...........We deserve to lose because of the boring crap we play.....

Freddie Or Not wrote:I love how the BBC just keep banging on about how shit the Dutch are - what about how shit england are! Worse than the Dutch. Zero guile, imagination, endeavour. Hardly strung more than 2 or 3 passes together at a time. Truly it was dismal. I'm glad the Dutch scored - an England win would have disguised how rubbish we were.

This is correct. Lawro was banging on and on about the Dutch passing when they had 70% possession

It was their final ball that was crap Lawro, you useless cock

Owen Thomas wrote:Robinson - 4 Awful, ridiculous kicking, at fault for goal
Cole - 7 Decent
Rio - 6 Good defensively but awful distribution
Terry - 6 Didn't do much
Richards - 7 Good debut
Cole - 6 Played alright but only did one good thing all match
Lampard - 6 Good defensively but poor passing
Carrick - 5 Anonymous
Gerrard - 7 Two sitters, both missed but made both. Good energy but poor passing
Johnson - 6 Poor technically but tried hard
Rooney - 6 Poor decision making and passing

think i'd agree apart from i'd knock them all down 1. Apart from Cole and Richards.

Richardson 1 - Shit
SWP 2 - slightly less shit

Brian3-5-2 wrote:Lets be honested as an England fan do you like the style of game we play?...........We deserve to lose because of the boring crap we play.....

I second that. We are dire, boring, dismal, prosaic, unimaginative...and technically poor.