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Kieron Dyer

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Kieron Dyer

by Isco Benny Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:52 pm

A genuine top class player. Has been showin it since his return, and is looking a cut above today. Great touch, mobility and vision, and is playing as a deep lying striker with Martins.

Is he good enough to force his way into the England squad should he remain fit? Or is this going to be another false dawn from the player that Del Piero once said to Capello after Juve played Newcastle in the CL : "you've got to buy him boss"....

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Re: Kieron Dyer

by Parks lives Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:54 pm

Yeah, he's quality when fit. However its the same as Woodgate. They need almost a season injury free before thinking about International football.

No point giving them games and including them in your plans and excluding others, if there just going to be injured again.

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Re: Kieron Dyer

by Owen Thomas Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:55 pm

The Real White Pele wrote:A genuine top class player. Has been showin it since his return, and is looking a cut above today. Great touch, mobility and vision, and is playing as a deep lying striker with Martins.

Is he good enough to force his way into the England squad should he remain fit? Or is this going to be another false dawn from the player that Del Piero once said to Capello after Juve played Newcastle in the CL : "you've got to buy him boss"....

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Re: Kieron Dyer

by Glenarch of the Glen Sun Nov 26, 2006 2:34 pm

I'm not sure he's really England quality. Where would he play?

Ive never been a big fan, bit of a pace merchant, no outstanding cross/hot/set piece skills to speak of. He's a good player, but England have better.

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Re: Kieron Dyer

by Saintsar Sun Nov 26, 2006 2:49 pm

Glenn's right I think. If we need that sort of player in the team then Lennon is a better bet, and he's not going to displace Cole, Lampard or Gerrard. Or Rooney, despite his England form.

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Re: Kieron Dyer

by christmasborocooper Sun Nov 26, 2006 3:00 pm

he's just gashed his leg open

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Re: Kieron Dyer

by Puro Sun Nov 26, 2006 3:03 pm

borocooper wrote:he's just gashed his leg open

It looked like a very nasty gash in need of several stitches, but he's playing again. GOOLLLL Newcastle. Come on Nobby!!!!!!

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Re: Kieron Dyer

by Isco Benny Sun Nov 26, 2006 3:18 pm

Glenn Hysen wrote:I'm not sure he's really England quality. Where would he play?

Ive never been a big fan, bit of a pace merchant, no outstanding cross/hot/set piece skills to speak of. He's a good player, but England have better.

No, he's more than a pace merchant if you ask me. Very good passing ability and control at pace. He's the type of player that England doesnt produce enough but when we do, tends to get overlooked.

I think he's good enough to be in the England squad at least, as cover for left, right and central midfield (has played in all those positions during his career)

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Re: Kieron Dyer

by L r d Sun Nov 26, 2006 3:32 pm

Always manages to look busy without ever being efficient.

How many goals or assists does he get over the course of a season, really?

Maybe he'd be a good impact player for England but then Aaron Lennon and Theo Walcott would also be that and they're far younger and with greater potential...

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Re: Kieron Dyer

by Isco Benny Sun Nov 26, 2006 3:40 pm

Obispo wrote:Always manages to look busy without ever being efficient.

How many goals or assists does he get over the course of a season, really?

Maybe he'd be a good impact player for England but then Aaron Lennon and Theo Walcott would also be that and they're far younger and with greater potential...

He should've had an assist today for Martins' so called "offside" goal (great finish by the nigerian by the way).

He is a bit of an enigma I agree, but watching Newcastle today with Dyer playing, and the effect it seems to have on players like Emre and N'zogbia (who realise they have a team mate who is actually capable of passing them the ball) in comparison with how they have been playing without him, he looks like a multi million pound new signing for them.

On form I rate him very highly, he takes on players and I think his vision for the game is better than both Lennon and Walcott at this moment in time, due to his experience.

I'd take him over Jenas if I were Mclaren.

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Re: Kieron Dyer

by Kimbo Sun Nov 26, 2006 3:46 pm

You could call him a pace merchant................ if you ignored his passing, ball retention, vision, control, and skill. Doh

Doh

Should of had an assist today if it wasn't for that linesman.

If he's still fit come January then he's well worth his place ahead of Nemo or Lennon(U21s perhaps). I don't want him selected though for obvious reasons.

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Re: Kieron Dyer

by Deluded F*ck™ Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:11 pm

Wasteman

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Re: Kieron Dyer

by Isco Benny Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:15 pm

Kimbo wrote:You could call him a pace merchant................ if you ignored his passing, ball retention, vision, control, and skill. Should of had an assist today if it wasn't for that linesman.

If he's still fit come January then he's well worth his place ahead of Nemo or Lennon(U21s perhaps). I don't want him selected though for obvious reasons.

Nah, not Lennon. Lennon scored again today, his shot also set up Berbie's goal versus Lerkusen. He's in excellent form and getting better all the time. Scoring against Chelsea, being marked by A Cole who we saw today how competent he is in this department, is the icing on he cake and he fully deserves being picked for England

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Re: Kieron Dyer

by Kimbo Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:18 pm

The Real White Pele wrote:

Kimbo wrote:You could call him a pace merchant................ if you ignored his passing, ball retention, vision, control, and skill. Should of had an assist today if it wasn't for that linesman.

If he's still fit come January then he's well worth his place ahead of Nemo or Lennon(U21s perhaps). I don't want him selected though for obvious reasons.

Nah, not Lennon. Lennon scored again today, his shot also set up Berbie's goal versus Lerkusen. He's in excellent form and getting better all the time. Scoring against Chelsea, being marked by A Cole who we saw today how competent he is in this department, is the icing on he cake and he fully deserves being picked for England

Is he better off on the England bench getting 10 minutes here and there, OR being in an U21 team that plays good football? For his development i think the U21s would be better.

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Re: Kieron Dyer

by Deluded F*ck™ Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:19 pm

Kimbo - in your sig - isn't Aaron "No End Product" Lennon skinning you right Back alive and delivering a crosss for our solitary goal?

See, to get back at me, you had to contradict yourself. Smiley

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Re: Kieron Dyer

by Isco Benny Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:22 pm

Kimbo wrote:

The Real White Pele wrote:

Kimbo wrote:You could call him a pace merchant................ if you ignored his passing, ball retention, vision, control, and skill. Should of had an assist today if it wasn't for that linesman.

If he's still fit come January then he's well worth his place ahead of Nemo or Lennon(U21s perhaps). I don't want him selected though for obvious reasons.

Nah, not Lennon. Lennon scored again today, his shot also set up Berbie's goal versus Lerkusen. He's in excellent form and getting better all the time. Scoring against Chelsea, being marked by A Cole who we saw today how competent he is in this department, is the icing on he cake and he fully deserves being picked for England

Is he better off on the England bench getting 10 minutes here and there, OR being in an U21 team that plays good football? For his development i think the U21s would be better.

@Kimbo, good point; the senior team seems to be ruining players at the moment. But we certainly do need an impact substitute, and Dyer would indeed do fine if he carries on form like today. He was impressive <Ale>

<Ale>

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Re: Kieron Dyer

by Kimbo Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:23 pm

TeamSpirit wrote:Kimbo - in your sig - isn't Aaron "No End Product" Lennon skinning you right Back alive and delivering a crosss for our solitary goal?

See, to get back at me, you had to contradict yourself.

Would you like me to change it to the 7-1 win? I was torn between the 2. Very Happy

Very Happy

<Ale>

And i'm generalising when i say/said "no end product", obviously. I'm still not buying the hype though, i'll wait until he's had a FULL season of playing well.

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Re: Kieron Dyer

by Deluded F*ck™ Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:24 pm

Living in the past again, are we? Wink

Wink

That was last season. The quality of his performances were generally very impressive.

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Re: Kieron Dyer

by Kimbo Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:27 pm

TeamSpirit wrote:Living in the past again, are we?

That was last season. The quality of his performances were generally very impressive.

Well we can't live in the future can we TS?

How many goals and assists did he get last season? Erm

Erm

I can't say i was blown away by his 'break through season'.

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Re: Kieron Dyer

by DS Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:34 am

He looks better when played behind the striker then in the midfield.

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Re: Kieron Dyer

by The Easter Bunny Sun Apr 06, 2008 2:57 pm

Deano, do you still want Dyer?

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Re: Kieron Dyer

by Di Caniooooo! Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:06 pm

He's top class, of coarse we want him, haha.

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Re: Kieron Dyer

by The Easter Bunny Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:10 am

Di Caniooooo! wrote:He's top class, of coarse we want him, haha.

Injuries+high wages.

I know he can be amazing for like 10 games, bam broken leg or torn hamstring Ale

Ale

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Re: Kieron Dyer

by Deano Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:17 pm

Erm...yes. The very few games he played for us he was great. Added something to the team and is missed. When he gets fit he'll be first choice for sure.

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