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    Post by Batman Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:16 am

    What about Juan Roman Riquelme?
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:18 am

    Batman wrote:What about Juan Roman Riquelme?
    He is able to win the Best player of Villarreal award...


    that's it....!
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    Post by L r d Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:18 am

    Cesc-Fab wrote:This award is simply a joke now.

    Where is Eto'O and even Henry.

    Zidane - He was poor for Madrid from January, but it just goes to show you only need a few sound World Cup games to be nominated.

    Dinho is there as a celebrity.

    Cannavaro poor start to the season. Poor end to last season. Zidane nothing this season obviously, not the greatest end of year for madrid. how the hell are you in the top of the whole year for a few good games in the world cup. The awards are basically pointless. What about players like Etoo, where his country is very unlikely to ever do really well.
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    Post by Tweesus Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:19 am

    Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:
    Tweedledum wrote:So no EPL players despite the fact its possibly the strongest league now?

    I think some people chronically underrate the players in our league becasue of an out of sight out of mind mentality

    I am pretty sure that the EPL is the most watched league in the world Suspect

    I meant for parky - he doesn't get to see serie A and assumes their players are amazing week in week out - whereas he sees all the flaws of the EPL players.

    @ todo

    Wy doesn't Henry deserve it?
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    Post by mongrel hawk Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:20 am

    Laugh

    ricardojol wrote:
    Batman wrote:What about Juan Roman Riquelme?
    He is able to win the Best player of Villarreal award...


    that's it....!
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    Post by Parks lives Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:23 am

    Tweedledum wrote:
    Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:
    Tweedledum wrote:So no EPL players despite the fact its possibly the strongest league now?

    I think some people chronically underrate the players in our league becasue of an out of sight out of mind mentality

    I am pretty sure that the EPL is the most watched league in the world Suspect

    I meant for parky - he doesn't get to see serie A and assumes their players are amazing week in week out - whereas he sees all the flaws of the EPL players.


    Laughing

    Is this because I didn't put forward Henry?
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    Post by Parks lives Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:24 am

    ricardojol wrote:
    Batman wrote:What about Juan Roman Riquelme?
    He is able to win the Best player of Villarreal award...


    that's it....!

    Senna might win that anyway. Very Happy
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    Post by mongrel hawk Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:25 am

    best five, maybe.

    my best player would be buffon. Ronaldinho is obviously the best IMO, but I think players who don't do well in a WC do not deserve it.


    Tweedledum wrote:
    Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:
    Tweedledum wrote:So no EPL players despite the fact its possibly the strongest league now?

    I think some people chronically underrate the players in our league becasue of an out of sight out of mind mentality

    I am pretty sure that the EPL is the most watched league in the world Suspect

    I meant for parky - he doesn't get to see serie A and assumes their players are amazing week in week out - whereas he sees all the flaws of the EPL players.

    @ todo

    Wy doesn't Henry deserve it?
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:33 am

    Parks Lives wrote:
    ricardojol wrote:
    Batman wrote:What about Juan Roman Riquelme?
    He is able to win the Best player of Villarreal award...


    that's it....!

    Senna might win that anyway. Very Happy

    Tough competition indeed! ok
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    Post by Batman Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:37 am

    ricardojol wrote:
    Parks Lives wrote:
    ricardojol wrote:
    Batman wrote:What about Juan Roman Riquelme?
    He is able to win the Best player of Villarreal award...


    that's it....!

    Senna might win that anyway. Very Happy

    Tough competition indeed! ok

    Riquelme has been better than Zidane for the last 2 seasons.
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    Post by Rez Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:54 am

    Ok Dinho had a stinker at the world cup but in la liga and the CL he was simply magnificent. Didnt he score 18 goals and get 20 assists last season.

    As for Zidane he was crap for Real all season and he played well for 45 minutes in the WC. They were struggling to qualify and only played well when he wasnt there. They played the biggest underachievers in world football (Spain) and he scored. He was magnificent against Brazil for 45 minutes. Against Portugal he scored the penalty that Henry won (dived) and C Ronaldo was the best player on the pitch that day. He got sent of in the final and his team then went on to lose. So no he shouldnt be in the top 3.

    Cannavaro looked good in Serie A, were they bought the refs and was horrendous in the champions league, were werder Bremen gave them a bye into the next round and Arsenal gave them a footbaling lesson. He played well in the WC, but how many good players did he actually face, no one until the final. This seasonat Real he has been made to look like a pub player by various opponents.

    Personaly I think Ronaldinho or Eto should get it as they won the league and the CL.
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    Post by L r d Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:05 pm

    Parks Lives wrote:Name one! That performance was one of the best I've ever seen in years against arguably the best side in the World.


    *gets out the Steven Gerrard Catalogue*

    You're overrating that performance; France/Zidane didn't even create a clear cut chance.

    You're basing it soley on the fact that he dribbled past 2-3 players in the centre of the midfield in what was - Argentine goals and headbutts aside - the moment of the world cup.

    He was the best player on the pitch but it was hardly the solo performance of the season.
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    Post by Kroos Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:08 pm

    roony must win, he played outstanding for barca the whole season, not like zidane or cannavoro for 4 weeks

    btw zidane made only 1-2 good games at the world cup, and against a poor brasil side where a lot of space was^^
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:10 pm

    Deisler wrote:rooney must win, he played outstanding for barca the whole season, not like zidane or cannavoro for 4 weeks

    btw zidane made only 1-2 good games at the world cup, and against a poor brasil side where a lot of space was^^

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    Post by Kroos Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:11 pm

    ricardojol wrote:
    Deisler wrote:rooney must win, he played outstanding for barca the whole season, not like zidane or cannavoro for 4 weeks

    btw zidane made only 1-2 good games at the world cup, and against a poor brasil side where a lot of space was^^

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    Post by mongrel hawk Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:13 pm

    I think your subconscious mind is saying rooney should win.

    Deisler wrote:roony must win, he played outstanding for barca the whole season, not like zidane or cannavoro for 4 weeks

    btw zidane made only 1-2 good games at the world cup, and against a poor brasil side where a lot of space was^^
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    Post by Parks lives Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:15 pm

    Obispo wrote:
    Parks Lives wrote:Name one! That performance was one of the best I've ever seen in years against arguably the best side in the World.


    *gets out the Steven Gerrard Catalogue*

    You're overrating that performance; France/Zidane didn't even create a clear cut chance.

    You're basing it soley on the fact that he dribbled past 2-3 players in the centre of the midfield in what was - Argentine goals and headbutts aside - the moment of the world cup.

    He was the best player on the pitch but it was hardly the solo performance of the season.

    He created a chance when he sent a free kick sailing over Brazil's defence onto Henry's boot.


    Again, name a better one?
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    Post by bluenine Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:16 pm

    Aw crap, where is buffon???

    This is ridiculous, I want none of them to win it.

    Buffon and Henry should have been nominated instead.
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    Post by waft the Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:18 pm

    henry?

    We all no nobody deserves the accolade this year.
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    Post by L r d Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:20 pm

    [quote="Parks Lives"]
    Obispo wrote:
    Parks Lives wrote:Name one! That performance was one of the best I've ever seen in years against arguably the best side in the World.


    *gets out the Steven Gerrard Catalogue*

    You're overrating that performance; France/Zidane didn't even create a clear cut chance.

    You're basing it soley on the fact that he dribbled past 2-3 players in the centre of the midfield in what was - Argentine goals and headbutts aside - the moment of the world cup.

    He was the best player on the pitch but it was hardly the solo performance of the season.

    He created a chance when he sent a free kick sailing over Brazil's defence onto Henry's boot.

    Thanks to Roberto Carlos' marking...

    Again, name a better one?

    Better or higher profile?

    Gerrard in the FA Cup final.
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    Post by Parks lives Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:23 pm

    Laughing
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    Post by bluenine Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:38 pm

    ok ok


    todo_poderoso_timão wrote:best five, maybe.

    my best player would be buffon. Ronaldinho is obviously the best IMO, but I think players who don't do well in a WC do not deserve it.


    Tweedledum wrote:
    Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:
    Tweedledum wrote:So no EPL players despite the fact its possibly the strongest league now?

    I think some people chronically underrate the players in our league becasue of an out of sight out of mind mentality

    I am pretty sure that the EPL is the most watched league in the world Suspect

    I meant for parky - he doesn't get to see serie A and assumes their players are amazing week in week out - whereas he sees all the flaws of the EPL players.

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    Wy doesn't Henry deserve it?
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    Post by SuperMario Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:43 pm

    VI -Holland's most popular football website did a poll (26,000 respondents):

    1. Henry 28%
    2. Cannavaro 24%
    3. Ronny 23%
    4. Zidane 11%
    5. Eto'o 8%
    6. Buffon 5%

    Anyway imo neither of them should have won it.

    My WPOTY: Kolo Toure.
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    Post by A & K Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:47 pm

    Well, for Zidane there's a bit more than the world cup I think. When he decided to play for France, France were third of their group, behind Switerland and Israel, whereas after three games played France ended up first and did much more than expected during the world cup, so he clearly had his influence on the national team. Regards to the white jersey, Madrid and himself didn't perform particularly well all season.
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    Post by bluenine Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:00 pm

    If you look down the years, you will seee that the Golden Ball winner is usually a better performer during the calendar year, while the WPOTY award winner usually has the reputation.

    So I wouldn't be surprised to see a Ronaldinho win, its expected.
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    Post by Tweesus Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:05 pm

    Deco also deserved to be there and about IMO - chronically underrated.

    Its bullshit though, I could probably accept Dinho winning it if it wasn';t for him winning it the other two years but for me Cannavaro and Zidane do not deserve to win it
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    Post by Oleguerisntthatbad Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:06 pm

    bluenine wrote:If you look down the years, you will seee that the Golden Ball winner is usually a better performer during the calendar year, while the WPOTY award winner usually has the reputation.

    So I wouldn't be surprised to see a Ronaldinho win, its expected.

    Not to sound smug or anything, but that would rule out Cannavaro..
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    Post by mongrel hawk Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:14 pm

    but cannavaro wsn't beest performer during the year.

    bluenine wrote:If you look down the years, you will seee that the Golden Ball winner is usually a better performer during the calendar year, while the WPOTY award winner usually has the reputation.

    So I wouldn't be surprised to see a Ronaldinho win, its expected.
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    Post by Guest Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:16 pm

    dinho should win it and will win it.

    the 5 players that deserve it most IMO is

    Eto'o
    Dinho
    Henry
    Deco
    Toni

    the WC (the lowest form of competition IMO) should have no effect and who wins it
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    Post by Jaime Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:19 pm

    Drogba should be in your list before Deco.

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