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    Post by Roger Hunt Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:40 pm

    Steven Gerrard is a better player than Roy Keane

    Keane has retired now so it must be true
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    Post by DS Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:41 pm

    I would still take a retired Keane over Gerrard.
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    Post by Rosicky Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:42 pm

    will this be deleted also then?
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    Post by waft the Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:45 pm

    Royston Keano

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    Post by Roger Hunt Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:49 pm

    waft the hapless youth wrote:Royston Keano

    The best footballer in the history of the premier league.

    Always dwelling in the past...
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    Post by The Pröfessör Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:51 pm

    gerrard is the better footballer.

    keane is the better leader.
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    Post by Saintsar Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:53 pm

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    Post by christmasborocooper Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:54 pm

    Trevor McDonald >>> Theirry Henry
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:55 pm

    why hasn't Roger Hunt been deleted?

    I demand some consistancy.
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    Post by fcb Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:57 pm

    Now that he's retired though, surely Keane is the better player?



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    Post by Parks lives Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:58 pm

    Gerrard always was and always will be a poor mans Roy Keane. Even when Keane was 33 with a dodgy hip and knee he'd have Gerrard on a short leash when we ever we played that lot. Keano would slow the game down and Gerrard would be running around like a headless chicken wasting his energy and when he was fucked Keane would speed it up and "Stevie G" would go missing, meandering around the part aimlessly like a looking for his mum in a shopping centre, and after a while, once Gerrard got some energy back and summoned up a bit of courage to sprint around like an idiot again, spraying pointless and easily cut out long balls, Keano would slow it down and Gerrard would do his little fish-out-of-water routine again. If it wasn't so pathetic it might have been funny, and if I have had a little more compassion I'd probably feel sorry for him.

    You would have thought he'd grow out of it, but he hasn't.
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    Post by COTR Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:07 pm

    Parks Lives wrote:Gerrard always was and always will be a poor mans Roy Keane. Even when Keane was 33 with a dodgy hip and knee he'd have Gerrard on a short leash when we ever we played that lot. Keano would slow the game down and Gerrard would be running around like a headless chicken wasting his energy and when he was fucked Keane would speed it up and "Stevie G" would go missing, meandering around the part aimlessly like a looking for his mum in a shopping centre, and after a while, once Gerrard got some energy back and summoned up a bit of courage to sprint around like an idiot again, spraying pointless and easily cut out long balls, Keano would slow it down and Gerrard would do his little fish-out-of-water routine again. If it wasn't so pathetic it might have been funny, and if I have had a little more compassion I'd probably feel sorry for him.

    You would have thought he'd grow out of it, but he hasn't.
    lol! lol!

    And the winner of the cliche competition is............?
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    Post by Rosicky Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:08 pm

    odd that a identical thread was created earlier, but has since been deleted, while this one remains Whistle
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    Post by christmasborocooper Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:09 pm

    its not odd at all really
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:14 pm

    borocooper wrote:its not odd at all really

    yes it is.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:14 pm

    you're odd
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    Post by 110% Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:15 pm

    Agooner wrote:gerrard is the better footballer.

    keane is the better leader.

    ok

    in terms of footballing ability no question.

    Since the Keane "contained" Gerrard keeps coming out from parks, that is essentailly what he did. He didn't pass it around better, create more goals or even score himself. His positioning and tackling were his strengths. He stopped the central midfielders who might cause damage on the opposition team, and shouted at the rest of his own team. If scott parker had played alongside scholes, giggs and beckham he would also look better than he is.

    Keane was superior in terms of positioning, tackling and shouting (although shouting is not a footballing skill)
    Gerrard is better at passing, crossing, shooting, dribbling, heading, therefore the better all-round footballer

    Additionally athletically they are both very good, but gerrard is faster.
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    Post by Parks lives Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:17 pm

    Laughing

    He didn't pass it better. Watch the games.
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    Post by 110% Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:33 pm

    Seen a lot of their games, and in general the difference was that manu's team, was better than liverpool's. In fact if I remember correctly, giggs was usually the best player.

    Keane is great at keeping it simple and passing it 5-10 yards to scholes, giggs or beckham, but gerrard has a far better range of passing, including through balls.

    It's pretty much the same argument that scholes is a better passer than gerrard. For the same reason gerrard is a better passer than keane.
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    Post by Parks lives Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:46 pm

    So Scholes was better than Gerrard then?
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    Post by Fey Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:52 pm

    Parks Lives wrote:So Scholes was is better than Gerrard then?

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    Post by Football Genius Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:52 pm

    Do bears shit in the woods ?

    Of course Scholes has been a better player, but then Scholes is 31 ? And Gerrard 26, got a few more 'prime' years to make an impression.
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    Post by Parks lives Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:54 pm

    Football Genius wrote:Do bears shit in the woods ?

    Of course Scholes has been a better player, but then Scholes is 31 ? And Gerrard 26, got a few more 'prime' years to make an impression.

    Tell 110% that.

    He seems to think because Liverpool were weaker at that time, its impossible to compare. Rolling Eyes
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:56 pm

    Gerrard > Keane
    Gerrard > Scholes
    Gerrard > Fletcher
    Gerrard > O'Shea
    Gerrard > Carrick
    Gerrard > Rooney

    The End Smile
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    Post by 110% Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:57 pm

    At passing yes, gerrard being better at tackling, dribbling, crossing, heading etc and about equal at shooting.

    In terms of passing, vision etc Scholes is better
    In terms of position, tackling, leadership, Keane is better.
    (and they fit together perfectly)

    In terms of being an all-round footballer taking into account everything: passing, tackling, positioning, crossing, dribbling, shooting, heading, athletic ability, leadership and whatever else you can think of, Gerrard is better than both overall.
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    Post by 110% Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:02 pm

    Parks Lives wrote:
    Football Genius wrote:Do bears shit in the woods ?

    Of course Scholes has been a better player, but then Scholes is 31 ? And Gerrard 26, got a few more 'prime' years to make an impression.

    Tell 110% that.

    He seems to think because Liverpool were weaker at that time, its impossible to compare. Rolling Eyes

    Actually the most important thing is how the teams plays. Easy to see, just look at dinho at PSG compared to dinho at barca. For the reverse look at sheva at milan compared to sheva at chelsea. When you have other high-quality players complementing your style etc you look a lot better.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:08 pm

    110% wrote:At passing yes, gerrard being better at tackling, dribbling, crossing, heading etc and about equal at shooting.

    In terms of passing, vision etc Scholes is better
    In terms of position, tackling, leadership, Keane is better.
    (and they fit together perfectly)

    In terms of being an all-round footballer taking into account everything: passing, tackling, positioning, crossing, dribbling, shooting, heading, athletic ability, leadership and whatever else you can think of, Gerrard is better than both overall.

    ok

    although this whole thread is a joke
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:02 pm

    Roy Keane at his peak (1997-2001) was an absolute monster. He had everything you expected of a midfield general. He wasn't even that bad creatively.

    Remember those two goals he scored at Highbury?

    Has Gerrard ever done any thing like Turin 99 (Don't give me 15mins in Istanbul, please).

    This thread is indeed a joke.
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    Post by L r d Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:08 pm

    TeamSpirit™ wrote:
    Has Gerrard ever done any thing like Turin 99 (Don't give me 15mins in Istanbul, please).

    more like 60 minutes... but let's not get into that. Gerrard was atleast playing in a champions league final. No cynical challenge from him in the semi to bring down a far more talented player.


    Has Keane ever scored in every final a player in English football can score in?
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    Post by Parks lives Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:56 pm

    Obi you know who's better, you've even stated it before.

    Don't tell me Gerrard's great form this year has swung it for you. Rolling Eyes

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