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Wow... this is pretty frank if there's no substance behind it
Wow... this is pretty frank if there's no substance behind it
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DS
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Mistletoe.
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Is Sheva off?
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Saintsar- Guest
I was particularly impressed with:
I'd say that thinking you have nothing left to prove makes you finished as a player...
I'm not finished as a player. On the other hand I have nothing to prove. Everybody knows what Andriy Shevchenko is capable of.
I'd say that thinking you have nothing left to prove makes you finished as a player...
Roger Hunt- Number of posts : 10115
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I'd say it would put pressure on Mourinho too. Roman obviously wanted/wants Sheva, if Mourinho forces him out and then fails to deliver the PL and/or CL I could see Roman being... unsympathetic.
Tweesus- Number of posts : 34851
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I have a feeling he won't be their main striker soon unless he starts to do it on a regular basis.
If it was me I'd give him time but Mourinho and Abramovich aren't fans of 'time'
If it was me I'd give him time but Mourinho and Abramovich aren't fans of 'time'
Kimbo- Number of posts : 38171
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How fucking unprofessional is this?! What an idiot.
Roger Hunt- Number of posts : 10115
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Hey, a once-great striker, potentially on the cheap - Toon'll be in there like Flynn.
Saintsar- Guest
Roger_Hunt wrote:I'd say it would put pressure on Mourinho too. Roman obviously wanted/wants Sheva, if Mourinho forces him out and then fails to deliver the PL and/or CL I could see Roman being... unsympathetic.
The whole situation is daft - clearly Mourinho didn't particularly want the player, but the chairman did. However, Mourinho isn't going to sacrifice his desired system for one player (as he shouldn't). Hence, Shevchenko plays poorly, becomes a waste of money.
Kimbo- Number of posts : 38171
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Flynn? Is this another term from ye olden days?Roger_Hunt wrote:Hey, a once-great striker, potentially on the cheap - Toon'll be in there like Flynn.
Tweesus- Number of posts : 34851
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I heard he might be loaned to Newcastle in January.
But I thought this guy was supposed to be the best striker in the world - where all all the people hiding that said this??!
But I thought this guy was supposed to be the best striker in the world - where all all the people hiding that said this??!
Roger Hunt- Number of posts : 10115
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Krimbo wrote:Flynn? Is this another term from ye olden days?Roger_Hunt wrote:Hey, a once-great striker, potentially on the cheap - Toon'll be in there like Flynn.
From Wikipedia on Errol Flynn -
Errol Flynn was well known for drinking, womanising and throwing wild parties. However, his lifestyle caught up with him when teenagers Betty Hansen and Peggy Satterlee accused him of statutory rape in November 1942. A group organised to support Flynn, named the American Boys Club for the Defense of Errol Flynn (ABCDEF); its members included, surprisingly, William F. Buckley, Jr. The trial took place in January and February of 1943, and Flynn was cleared of the crime. The incident served to increase his reputation as a ladies' man, and the term "in like Flynn" came to be synonymous with succeeding in romantic endeavours.
Or more accurately, rushing in hastily.
Kimbo- Number of posts : 38171
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It's all Henry's fault.Tinseldum wrote:I heard he might be loaned to Newcastle in January.
But I thought this guy was supposed to be the best striker in the world - where all all the people hiding that said this??!
The arrogant dick!
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Tinseldum wrote:I heard he might be loaned to Newcastle in January.
But I thought this guy was supposed to be the best striker in the world - where all all the people hiding that said this??!
Doesn't he have as many goals from open play as Henry this year? Not bad considering he's 'adapting'.
He won't go to the toon for fuck sakes. I have no doubts that that particular joke club will clamour to sign him, but this isn't isn't a one dimensional cripple like Michael Owen. He doesn't have to swallow his pride and accept his punishment yet.
If he goes it'll probably be back to Milan.
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He'll stay.
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Roger_Hunt wrote:I'd say it would put pressure on Mourinho too. Roman obviously wanted/wants Sheva, if Mourinho forces him out and then fails to deliver the PL and/or CL I could see Roman being... unsympathetic.
my understanding was that it was something to do with the wives - Abramovich's wife and Shevchenko's wife ae best mates and he signed Schevchenko so that she would have someone to play with. Since that's no longer an issue (if it's true) they'll be no problem shifting him.
Any club in the world would want him, regardless of his recent form. He's just turned 30 so isn't ready for the scrap heap just yet.
West Ham or Portsmouth will be on the phone Jose.
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Roger_Hunt wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/6216638.stm
Wow... this is pretty frank if there's no substance behind it
end of Mourinho era... To mock with Romans friends...? Hiddink you can expect a call very soon....
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Sheva won't go yet, if he did i'd be amazed. We all know he's a quality striker and it's what? 15 games into the Premier League...give him time, even though like Tinseldum said, Abramovich is close to Sheva so i think he has more time than say another striker who didnt have the connections, ask chelsea fans would they want him to go if all season long he was a flop then in the 89th minute of the champions league final he scored the winner...i think we all know what the answe would be.
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Different country, different lifestyle, culture, playing in one of the most physical leagues etc.
He still has 6 goals this season. Not too bad, when you think the likes of Henry have 7 (I know he's injured now, but he's played most of the season).
I know none of you are exactly criticising him, but what he needs is games. He needs to keep making space for himself (he did that very well against Levski), and the goals will come.
He will not be far off 20 goals this season (in all competitions). He might even get that.
He still has 6 goals this season. Not too bad, when you think the likes of Henry have 7 (I know he's injured now, but he's played most of the season).
I know none of you are exactly criticising him, but what he needs is games. He needs to keep making space for himself (he did that very well against Levski), and the goals will come.
He will not be far off 20 goals this season (in all competitions). He might even get that.
DS- Number of posts : 12952
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He is just saying the obvious thing though unproffesionaly , the current Chelsea style doesnt suit him.
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I don't think Sheva will leave but every week the chances increase. This latest confession is shocking to say the least.
Sheva is adapting and lest we forget Henry was an embarrassment in the Serie A. And furthermore, Henry took a while to adapt to the Prem also.
I genuinely think that Sheva isn’t happy. Even though he is not Italian, leaving Italy for bleak London must be quite disappointing (with all due respect to the denizens of London). There is a lot of traffic between La Liga and Serie A, and players generally don't miss a step both in terms of football and culture (there are also some exceptions).
Sheva is adapting and lest we forget Henry was an embarrassment in the Serie A. And furthermore, Henry took a while to adapt to the Prem also.
I genuinely think that Sheva isn’t happy. Even though he is not Italian, leaving Italy for bleak London must be quite disappointing (with all due respect to the denizens of London). There is a lot of traffic between La Liga and Serie A, and players generally don't miss a step both in terms of football and culture (there are also some exceptions).
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I dont think Sheva will leave although Milan really could do with him back!
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Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:lest we forget Henry was an embarrassment in the Serie A.
Hardly. Bought for £10m, 3 goals in 16 games from the left wing, then sold on to Arsenal for £11m.How embarrassing.
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Krimbo wrote:Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:lest we forget Henry was an embarrassment in the Serie A.
How embarrassing.
Maybe hyperbolic of me. But his stint in Serie A was hardly something to write home about.
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Chelsea's overworked PR department once again feels the need to make an official statement. Does any club make more official statements than Chelsea FC?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/6216638.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/6216638.stm
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Tinseldum wrote:
But I thought this guy was supposed to be the best striker in the world - where all all the people hiding that said this??!
Right here pal.
At the end of the day there will always be people on his side because he's a warrior (quite a good boxer in his early teens by all accounts) who will risk smashing his face in to score a goal (see Bologna 2 seasons ago).
Do you honestly think he's fit ? playing a World Cup so soon after a serious injury ?
I'm sure players like Sheva, Kaka and Totti would love to take a rest due to niggles and too much playing time over the past couple of years but I suppose these people actually have spines.
Sheva plays in a new country, in a team not suited to him but will bleed on the shirt and has scored 1 fewer from open play than Henry playing where he has been for 7 years for a team built around him.
Still, he's not fit is he ?
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How do Milan fans feel about this? I know Pirlo (where is he btw? he hasn't been around for a while) would never forgive him but given the somewhat dire state of Milan attack at the moment, would you have him if he really wants to come back?
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Pierre Littbarski wrote:Tinseldum wrote:
But I thought this guy was supposed to be the best striker in the world - where all all the people hiding that said this??!
Right here pal.
At the end of the day there will always be people on his side because he's a warrior (quite a good boxer in his early teens by all accounts) who will risk smashing his face in to score a goal (see Bologna 2 seasons ago).
Do you honestly think he's fit ? playing a World Cup so soon after a serious injury ?
I'm sure players like Sheva, Kaka and Totti would love to take a rest due to niggles and too much playing time over the past couple of years but I suppose these people actually have spines.
Sheva plays in a new country, in a team not suited to him but will bleed on the shirt and has scored 1 fewer from open play than Henry playing where he has been for 7 years for a team built around him.
Still, he's not fit is he ?
different situation pierre.
Sheva had a full pre-season, enough time to rest( so he's fresh) and is keen to prove to people he can cut in the EPL but has only managed 3 goals in 13 EPL starts- that shocking especially for a striker who many said can score zillion goals in the poor and overrated premiership.
Henry on the hand had only two weeks rest after a long season, no pre-season at all and was playing with an injury, he has still managed to score 6 goals from 11 starts.
Oh our team is not built around henry, fab is the man
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Agooner wrote:Pierre Littbarski wrote:Tinseldum wrote:
But I thought this guy was supposed to be the best striker in the world - where all all the people hiding that said this??!
Right here pal.
At the end of the day there will always be people on his side because he's a warrior (quite a good boxer in his early teens by all accounts) who will risk smashing his face in to score a goal (see Bologna 2 seasons ago).
Do you honestly think he's fit ? playing a World Cup so soon after a serious injury ?
I'm sure players like Sheva, Kaka and Totti would love to take a rest due to niggles and too much playing time over the past couple of years but I suppose these people actually have spines.
Sheva plays in a new country, in a team not suited to him but will bleed on the shirt and has scored 1 fewer from open play than Henry playing where he has been for 7 years for a team built around him.
Still, he's not fit is he ?
different situation pierre.
Different in that Shevchenko actually had a known injury that stopped him from playing rather than something vague about a sciatic nerve (which had obviously not been bad enough to stop him from playing)
Sheva had a full pre-season, enough time to rest( so he's fresh)
Yep - you're out for a month with a knee injury that keeps you out for your 1st World Cup match, you go straight into the 2nd game - play 3 more in the next week and a half or so before going straight into pre-season and into a league that you've never played in where you don't speak the language.
Fresh as a daisy.
and is keen to prove to people he can cut in the EPL but has only managed 3 goals in 13 EPL starts- that shocking especially for a striker who many said can score zillion goals in the poor and overrated premiership.
If he was playing in front of Fabregas, Rosicky and a team constantly looking to play him in I think he'd do a bit better.
What's Henry's excuse and how many would he get playing with Lampard and Ballack ?
Maybe the Premiership is overrated judging by how poorly our 2 great strikers of this milennium have done in the tight Knockout phases of the CL.
Henry on the hand had only two weeks rest after a long season, no pre-season at all and was playing with an injury, he has still managed to score 6 goals from 11 starts.
He had a long season did he ?
Bless.
I've not seen other over played footballers like Kaka, Gerrard and Fat Frank come out with this crap.
Oh our team is not built around henry, fab is the man
Its not built around Henry - its just that everyone plays through him and he's allowed to go where he wants whenever he wants.
He wouldn't get indulged like that at a serious club like Milan, Chelsea or Juve (but then he knows that doesn't he ?)
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