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    Post by The Pröfessör Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:19 pm

    Inter are in the top 3 of europe presently but are certainly not the best. They have a good balanced squad( best in europe imo) but lack something defensively and one more special attacking player
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    Post by Deano Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:20 pm

    ParktheHeraldAngelsSing wrote:
    Déáñöël Dí Cäñíö wrote:Man Utd
    Barcelona
    Inter
    Real Madrid

    No Chelsea? Razz

    Na they are cunts..

    Man Utd are better...
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    Post by The Pröfessör Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:22 pm

    I just read some posters saying madrid are better than Lyon Laugh

    Madrid are all hype these days, they are no where near the top 8 in europe.
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    Post by Deano Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:24 pm

    Agooner wrote:I just read some posters saying madrid are better than Lyon Laugh

    Madrid are all hype these days, they are no where near the top 8 in europe.

    how do you work that one out?
    Madrid are 1 point behind Barca...they play in a harder league than Lyon...
    both qualified for the knockout stages....

    so which 7 teams are better than Madrid?
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    Post by Protheus Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:27 pm

    Barça
    Chelsea
    Manchester United
    Liverpool
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    Post by The Pröfessör Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:33 pm

    Déáñöël Dí Cäñíö wrote:
    Agooner wrote:I just read some posters saying madrid are better than Lyon Laugh

    Madrid are all hype these days, they are no where near the top 8 in europe.

    how do you work that one out?
    Madrid are 1 point behind Barca...they play in a harder league than Lyon...
    both qualified for the knockout stages....

    so which 7 teams are better than Madrid?

    I worked that out by watching them play. They need a quality left back9 to replace carlos), quality central defender( to replace helguera) and quality attacking midfielder( to replace guti). They have quality players players in their team but any good athletic team with a lot of pace will cause them alot of problems because when they attack they are either to slow to track back or refuse to do so at all.

    Team that i think are better than them are:

    Chelsea
    barca
    manu
    inter
    lyon
    arsenal
    liverpool
    bayern
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    Post by The Pröfessör Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:34 pm

    Agooner wrote:
    Déáñöël Dí Cäñíö wrote:
    Agooner wrote:I just read some posters saying madrid are better than Lyon Laugh

    Madrid are all hype these days, they are no where near the top 8 in europe.

    how do you work that one out?
    Madrid are 1 point behind Barca...they play in a harder league than Lyon...
    both qualified for the knockout stages....

    so which 7 teams are better than Madrid?

    I worked that out by watching them play. They need a quality left back ( to replace carlos), quality central defender( to replace helguera) and quality attacking midfielder( to replace guti). They have quality players players in their team but any good athletic team with a lot of pace will cause them alot of problems because when they attack they are either to slow to track back or refuse to do so at all.

    Team that i think are better than them are:

    Chelsea
    barca
    manu
    inter
    lyon
    arsenal
    liverpool
    bayern
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    Post by The Pröfessör Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:35 pm

    Agooner wrote:
    Agooner wrote:
    Déáñöël Dí Cäñíö wrote:
    Agooner wrote:I just read some posters saying madrid are better than Lyon Laugh

    Madrid are all hype these days, they are no where near the top 8 in europe.

    how do you work that one out?
    Madrid are 1 point behind Barca...they play in a harder league than Lyon...
    both qualified for the knockout stages....

    so which 7 teams are better than Madrid?


    I worked that out by watching them play. They need a quality left back ( to replace carlos), quality central defender( to replace helguera) and quality attacking midfielder( to replace guti). They have quality players players in their team but any good athletic team with a lot of pace will cause them alot of problems because when they attack they are either to slow to track back or refuse to do so at all.

    Team that i think are better than them are:

    Chelsea
    barca
    manu
    inter
    lyon
    arsenal
    liverpool
    bayern
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    Post by Deano Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:35 pm

    Arsenal better than Madrid?
    Laugh
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    Post by TM Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:38 pm

    Agooner

    wtf!!!!

    Helguera isnt a regular, and im pretty sure we're better than Arsenal, Liverpool and Bayern.
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    Post by Torrente Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:40 pm

    Agooner wrote:
    Déáñöël Dí Cäñíö wrote:
    Agooner wrote:I just read some posters saying madrid are better than Lyon Laugh

    Madrid are all hype these days, they are no where near the top 8 in europe.

    how do you work that one out?
    Madrid are 1 point behind Barca...they play in a harder league than Lyon...
    both qualified for the knockout stages....

    so which 7 teams are better than Madrid?

    I worked that out by watching them play. They need a quality left back9 to replace carlos), quality central defender( to replace helguera) and quality attacking midfielder( to replace guti). They have quality players players in their team but any good athletic team with a lot of pace will cause them alot of problems because when they attack they are either to slow to track back or refuse to do so at all.

    Team that i think are better than them are:

    Chelsea
    barca
    manu
    inter
    lyon
    arsenal
    liverpool
    bayern


    You're talking bullshit. You mean fast teams like Barca who we beat 2-0? Laughing We've already beaten our 2 biggest rivals in the league this season (Barca at home, Valencia away) and if we beat Sevilla tonight that would make it a hat-trick.


    And I won't even bother with half the teams on that list, but you include Arsenal? Aren't you guys already out of the Premiership title race and incredibly lucky to be through to the next round of the CL?

    We certainly have weaknesses in our squad and we have a lot to improve, but this kind of criticism from an Arsenal fan is hilarious.
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    Post by Torrente Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:41 pm

    Déáñöël Dí Cäñíö wrote:Arsenal better than Madrid?
    Laugh

    One year in which they go past the CL quarterfinals and these Arsenal fans get on their high horse. You can't help but laugh at them Laugh
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    Post by Parks lives Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:45 pm

    Whilst I disagree with AGooner that Arsenal are better than Madrid and that there are 8 teams better than Real, I do think he's right on the players needed.

    A left back, a centre back if Ramos is going to play at right back and an attacking central midfielder.
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    Post by Deano Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:45 pm

    Torrente wrote:
    Déáñöël Dí Cäñíö wrote:Arsenal better than Madrid?
    Laugh

    One year in which they go past the CL quarterfinals and these Arsenal fans get on their high horse. You can't help but laugh at them Laugh

    I dont understand why you are getting so much stick?
    you are 2nd in La Liga 1 point behind Barca and have qualified for the CL round 2...When Ive watched you I thought you've played alright...
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    Post by The Pröfessör Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:48 pm

    You played a totally out off form barca team without their most dangerous striker and were outplayed by an injury hit valencia team but u were very lucky to win that day. The fact that an off form barca team ( though they have started playing well recently) without two of their most influential player is still leading u says it all. I have seen alot of this madrid team to make a good judgement on them but am not going to argue with u , i just hope we meet in the CL.
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    Post by TM Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:49 pm

    Its easy to kick a dog whilst its down. We've played well in most of our games; yes there has been certain games where we have played shite, but thats football.

    If we win either the La Liga or CL im pretty sure people will change their opinions v v v quickly.

    This bastard, who coaches at millwall was doing our football the other day; and made the comment; "RM is a retirement home where you get 100K a week", and i replied saying "Geez Casillas, Ramos, Cicinho, Diarra, Robinho are grandads now? :shock"
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    Post by TM Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:50 pm

    Agooner wrote:You played a totally out off form barca team without their most dangerous striker and were outplayed by an injury hit valencia team but u were very lucky to win that day. The fact that an off form barca team ( though they have started playing well recently) without two of their most influential player is still leading u says it all. I have seen alot of this madrid team to make a good judgement on them but am not going to argue with u , i just hope we meet in the CL.

    You watch too much Reviste De la Liga Doh
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:51 pm

    'S4P' of Orient Are wrote:I went for:

    Chelsea
    Barcelona
    Lyon
    Inter


    ok

    People going way over the top slating Lyon 'cos they don't rate the French league or dislike Houllier.

    They've battered Real and Lille and are strong in all departments.

    People also going way over the top praising Inter - I have a lot of time for their players and would genuinely like to see them do well but they have a lot to prove.

    Staggering that people can rate Bayern higher than Lyon - you only have to look at the players at both clubs to see this.

    I'd say Sagnol is the only Bayern player who would make Lyon's starting XI.
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    Post by TM Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:52 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    'S4P' of Orient Are wrote:I went for:

    Chelsea
    Barcelona
    Lyon
    Inter


    :k:

    People going way over the top slating Lyon 'cos they don't rate the French league or dislike Houllier.

    They've battered Real and Lille and are strong in all departments.

    People also going way over the top praising Inter - I have a lot of time for their players and would genuinely like to see them do well but they have a lot to prove.

    Staggering that people can rate Bayern higher than Lyon - you only have to look at the players at both clubs to see this.

    I'd say Sagnol is the only Bayern player who would make Lyon's starting XI.

    Trying watch the matches, Lyon beat us - Yes. They took their Chances - Yes, They outplayed Us - No.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:52 pm

    Target SnowMan wrote:
    Agooner wrote:You played a totally out off form barca team without their most dangerous striker and were outplayed by an injury hit valencia team but u were very lucky to win that day. The fact that an off form barca team ( though they have started playing well recently) without two of their most influential player is still leading u says it all. I have seen alot of this madrid team to make a good judgement on them but am not going to argue with u , i just hope we meet in the CL.

    You watch too much Reviste De la Liga Doh

    never heard of that before
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    Post by Torrente Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:53 pm

    Déáñöël Dí Cäñíö wrote:
    Torrente wrote:
    Déáñöël Dí Cäñíö wrote:Arsenal better than Madrid?
    Laugh

    One year in which they go past the CL quarterfinals and these Arsenal fans get on their high horse. You can't help but laugh at them Laugh

    I dont understand why you are getting so much stick?
    you are 2nd in La Liga 1 point behind Barca and have qualified for the CL round 2...When Ive watched you I thought you've played alright...


    We've been OK, like you said. No Madrid fan is satisfied with our current level but in the end we're 1 point behind first place and as our new players gel more and more, we can only get better.
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:55 pm

    Target SnowMan wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    'S4P' of Orient Are wrote:I went for:

    Chelsea
    Barcelona
    Lyon
    Inter


    ok

    People going way over the top slating Lyon 'cos they don't rate the French league or dislike Houllier.

    They've battered Real and Lille and are strong in all departments.

    People also going way over the top praising Inter - I have a lot of time for their players and would genuinely like to see them do well but they have a lot to prove.

    Staggering that people can rate Bayern higher than Lyon - you only have to look at the players at both clubs to see this.

    I'd say Sagnol is the only Bayern player who would make Lyon's starting XI.

    Trying watch the matches, Lyon beat us - Yes. They took their Chances - Yes, They outplayed Us - No.

    I did watch the matches - difference is I don't support either of the teams contesting them Erm
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    Post by fcb Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:55 pm

    Barca, Chelsea, Inter, and Lyon are my votes.

    11 votes for Man. Utd. and no more than 4 for anyone else? What the hell is everyone smoking today?
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    Post by TM Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:57 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    Target SnowMan wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    'S4P' of Orient Are wrote:I went for:

    Chelsea
    Barcelona
    Lyon
    Inter


    ok

    People going way over the top slating Lyon 'cos they don't rate the French league or dislike Houllier.

    They've battered Real and Lille and are strong in all departments.

    People also going way over the top praising Inter - I have a lot of time for their players and would genuinely like to see them do well but they have a lot to prove.

    Staggering that people can rate Bayern higher than Lyon - you only have to look at the players at both clubs to see this.

    I'd say Sagnol is the only Bayern player who would make Lyon's starting XI.

    Trying watch the matches, Lyon beat us - Yes. They took their Chances - Yes, They outplayed Us - No.

    I did watch the matches - difference is I don't support either of the teams contesting them Erm

    Problem is that Lyon are dark horses etc etc Why? They beat RM, but RM are shit,Overrated, Bunch of hasbeens etc etc.

    So why does it make a difference if they beat RM? scratch scratch

    In both games they deserved the victory but people go on about it as they played us off the park, we had our chances in both games but we didnt take them, and Lyon punished us. Lyon had lady luck smiling on them at certain points, ie. Carew; lucky bonce off Cannavaro, and his offside goal.
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    Post by Puro Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:57 pm

    Right now: Lyon, Chelsea, Barça, and Bayern.

    In January-February: Barça, Inter, Chelsea, Bayern/Lyon/Real Madrid. <Ale>
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    Post by TM Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:58 pm

    kas wrote:Barca, Chelsea, Inter, and Lyon are my votes.

    11 votes for Man. Utd. and no more than 4 for anyone else? What the hell is everyone smoking today?


    Hype.

    Taking into consideration it took them to the final match day to qualify from one of the easiest groups in the cl...bounce
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    Post by Torrente Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:58 pm

    Agooner wrote: You played a totally out off form barca team without their most dangerous striker

    We played without Ronaldo Doh It's not our fault that Barca thinks Gudjonsen is a good enough backup for Eto'o.

    Agooner wrote:
    and were outplayed by an injury hit valencia team but u were very lucky to win that day. The fact that an off form barca team ( though they have started playing well recently) without two of their most influential player is still leading u says it all. I have seen alot of this madrid team to make a good judgement on them but am not going to argue with u , i just hope we meet in the CL.

    You can look at the flip side of that. We are 1 point away from Barca without our number 1 striker and with a completely new coach, and 5 new signings that are yet to completely gel in our team. We are also not getting the flukey refereing decisions that Barca get every couple of games. Imagine what will happen when our team actually gels.
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    Post by Parks lives Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:59 pm

    Target SnowMan wrote:
    kas wrote:Barca, Chelsea, Inter, and Lyon are my votes.

    11 votes for Man. Utd. and no more than 4 for anyone else? What the hell is everyone smoking today?


    Hype.

    Taking into consideration it took them to the final match day to qualify from one of the easiest groups in the cl...bounce

    Laughing

    It must be hard for you.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:00 pm

    @ madrid fans

    I have nothing against u, i admire your club for its past achievements and many of my favourite players have played for u but i don't just rate the current team that much. I believe u are in good hands (capello) but u have to change certain things/players to be where u deserved to be once more.
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    Post by TM Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:00 pm

    ParktheHeraldAngelsSing wrote:
    Target SnowMan wrote:
    kas wrote:Barca, Chelsea, Inter, and Lyon are my votes.

    11 votes for Man. Utd. and no more than 4 for anyone else? What the hell is everyone smoking today?


    Hype.

    Taking into consideration it took them to the final match day to qualify from one of the easiest groups in the cl...bounce

    Laughing

    It must be hard for you.

    Lol, no theres no personal vendetta involved Wink

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