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    Post by Luso Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:28 pm

    What's the deal here? You can question foreign players but not the local boys?

    Phil seems to be outright showing a racist side, claiming people like Wenger and Mourinho are having a go at "our" boys.

    The fact that Everton would consider legal action is a joke. A week wouldn't go by without some suite being made against another club for one thing or another.

    Seems outright ridiculous. What's next, you can't call Gerrard or Rooney divers either?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/6188413.stm
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    Post by christmasborocooper Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:30 pm

    Its probably because he didnt dive...and if anything helped out the keeper by not crashing into his ribs.

    So Mourinho had a go at him and called him untrustworthy for doing so.
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:31 pm

    Jermain Defoe >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy Johnson ok

    And JD isn't a diver either.

    That is all.
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    Post by Luso Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:37 pm

    I'll admit I didn't see the incidint, but to call for legal action is a joke.

    Ronaldo has dived, no question, but he's also been clearly fouled and not had anything called...and still been called a diver and nothing similar has ever resulted from it.

    Phil's comments are pretty damn questionable. Seems like he doesn't think you can't question the integrity of a Brit.
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    Post by Roger Hunt Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:38 pm

    Luso 'Sporting' wrote:Phil seems to be outright showing a racist side, claiming people like Wenger and Mourinho are having a go at "our" boys.

    Phil's just sucking Fergie's cock as usual - anything to get at Chelsea at the moment.

    Everton do have a point, what else could AJ have done?
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    Post by christmasborocooper Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:38 pm

    He doesnt say you can question the integrity of a non-Brit either.
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    Post by Luis Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:41 pm

    Who cares? everton are shite
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    Post by L r d Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:41 pm

    I don't know what this legal action is about, that seems silly.

    But Mourinho has got to be having a laugh, he acted like he was outraged, last season when bryan robson went mad when drogba dived, mourinho didn't like it, and had a bust up with robson, refused to shake hands etc. Half his team have dived, or are big divers. Porto his whole team were divers. Now he seems to be outraged if someone dives Laughing

    Johnson is a diver, but he didn't even dive this time. Did not appeal for a penalty and got straight back up, Mourinho's outburst is just bizarre
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    Post by Luso Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:47 pm

    He's making it sound like only those foreigners would question the Brits, implying local managers wouldn't as there's nothing to question.

    You can throw back the only reason Ronaldo isn't getting pens is b/c every Brit manager (other than Fergs) is questioning the Euro boys.
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    Post by Luso Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:51 pm

    L r d wrote:

    Johnson is a diver, but he didn't even dive this time. Did not appeal for a penalty and got straight back up, Mourinho's outburst is just bizarre

    Mourinho is just going with the flow. If everyone is going to bash divers so will he.

    It's not like players haven't dived against his clubs. So he calls them on it too.

    But the fact that Everton clearly think their players are unquestionable is a fucking joke. What's next, if Johnson gets a yellow for diving are they going to seek legal action against the ref? scratch
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    Post by L r d Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:54 pm

    You have to ignore Everton Luso. Any club that pays Phil Neville wages hasn't got a foot to stand on.

    It's probably just a case of the Timmy Howards from one of their spokesmen. Nothing will come of it.
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    Post by Luso Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:57 pm

    Snowbispo wrote:It's probably just a case of the Timmy Howards from one of their spokesmen. Nothing will come of it.

    lol!
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    Post by Football Genius Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:01 pm

    What Mourinho suggested after the game, and virtually directly said, was that Andy Johnson cheats, and had cheated in that particular game (which he didn't do). These claims are without foundation and slanderous. Mourinho should at the very least get a touchline ban.
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    Post by Luso Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:04 pm

    Has Andy Johnson never taken a dive? Is that not cheating?

    If he's done it before I don't see the why he can't be called on it. Ronaldo gets called a diving cheat all the time, whether he's been brought done hard or not.
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    Post by Football Genius Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:07 pm

    Forget the more general term, Mourinho was linking his actions in this specific game, and they are unfounded he just simply didn't dive. Mourinho cant have it both ways, either he stormed into the goalkeeper and injured him (something else Mourinho has been raving on about more protection to Goalkeepers) or as Andy Johnson chose to do, hurdle the goalkeeper, whilst at the same time recieving a push from behind from Boularouz.

    I dont know about Portugal but its illegal in England to make such claims and rightly so, peoples reputations can be tarnished by such pathetic claims. Mourinho needs to learn to shut the fuck up, more often than not he talks shit.
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    Post by Luso Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:12 pm

    Of course he does, he's Mourinho.
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:08 pm

    L r d wrote:I don't know what this legal action is about, that seems silly.

    But Mourinho has got to be having a laugh, he acted like he was outraged, last season when bryan robson went mad when drogba dived, mourinho didn't like it, and had a bust up with robson, refused to shake hands etc.

    I would love to see Robbo and Jose have a straightener.

    That would be a tough one to call Rolling Eyes
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    Post by Dwarf Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:16 pm

    Luso 'Sporting' wrote:Has Andy Johnson never taken a dive? Is that not cheating?

    If he's done it before I don't see the why he can't be called on it. Ronaldo gets called a diving cheat all the time, whether he's been brought done hard or not.

    He doesn't have the same ability as Ronaldo when it comes to diving. If he actually had the talent to construct a decent dive he wouldn't go down in the box half as much.
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    Post by Tweesus Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:18 pm

    TeamTurtleDoves™️ wrote:Jermain Defoe >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy Johnson ok

    And JD isn't a diver either.

    That is all.

    Better at not passing ok can't disagree on this one
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    Post by S4P Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:47 pm

    So it's ok for Hansen and Shearer to sit there in the MOTD studio on a Saturday night and say "We all know Ronaldo cheats or has cheated in the past" but it's an outrage if Mourinho says "I know the guy dives. He is untrustworthy"?
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    Post by christmasborocooper Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:49 pm

    Yes, exactly.
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    Post by Luso Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:03 pm

    cooperclaus wrote:Yes, exactly.

    The problem is some people seem to actually believe that.

    It's fucking annoying.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:10 pm

    I think its more the fact Mourinho is a manager, who has players who dive....and he does nothing about it.

    Pundits can say things like this, as its their job. It isnt Mourinho's job to slag off other teams players...especially when he has players who do it...and even more so when it wasnt a dive.
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    Post by DeLux Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:54 am

    Didn't Moyes respond to Mourinho's claims by saying that Chelsea had a 15-stone player who dives? I Agree with Luso on this. You'll see over the next couple of days how all the ex-pros are going to come out of the woodwork and start slating Mourinho.
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    Post by Brian2468 Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:53 am

    Luso 'Sporting' your quote
    What's the deal here? You can question foreign players but not the local boys?

    Phil seems to be outright showing a racist side, claiming people like Wenger and Mourinho are having a go at "our" boys.

    What are you on about?..............You must have a racist side to seek out and print baloney like this......... Biggrin
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    Post by Puro Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:35 am

    Gerrard, Rooney, Terry, Lampard, Joe Cole are some of the biggest divers in the game, but you will NEVER hear Hansen or any of them fuckos from the media say a word about it.

    However, according to fuckos like Hansen, Cristiano is a diver and a cheat, and Hansen and co can't wait to remind us all every time how Cristiano or Drogba are cheats. Laugh

    I'm with Mourinho on this one! Johnson is just another diver just like Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney, etc. It's about time them fuckos are called out for what they are: DIVERS AND CHEATS!

    The media double standard can lick my balls! Biggrin <Ale>
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    Post by Football Genius Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:22 am

    Err Puro Gerrard, Rooney, Terry, Lampard

    Have all dived before yes, but 'some of the biggest divers in the game'

    Laugh

    Oh dear oh dear.

    Joe Cole though can go over easier than perhaps he should, but thats by no means every game.
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    Post by Isco Benny Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:42 am

    @ Luso,

    the use of the phrase "our players" by Phil Neville isnt about English players, its about Everton ones: try reading it again Doh

    You've managed, in an instant, to turn this into an England Vs Continental Europe argument when there isnt even one
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:50 am

    Puro Noel wrote:Gerrard, Rooney, Terry, Lampard, Joe Cole are some of the biggest divers in the game, but you will NEVER hear Hansen or any of them fuckos from the media say a word about it.

    However, according to fuckos like Hansen, Cristiano is a diver and a cheat, and Hansen and co can't wait to remind us all every time how Cristiano or Drogba are cheats. Laugh

    I'm with Mourinho on this one! Johnson is just another diver just like Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney, etc. It's about time them fuckos are called out for what they are: DIVERS AND CHEATS!

    The media double standard can lick my balls! Biggrin <Ale>

    That's very true!

    THe English were always against diving but the rising influences from latin countries and Germany made GB's think about it.... They now also took it over and probably even worse then normal latin diving standards...But to silence the people they are criticising everybody from outside the country who dives.... (remember how they attacked Robben) to put the discussion away that GB's also dive....
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    Post by pauloduarte Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:56 am

    So all in all, Everton is saying that noone outside Everton is allowed to make negative comments about their players!

    This seems like a bad episode from a daytime american programme where everyone is suing everybody else because they can!

    Now, Ben Tchatcher was not prosecuted by the legal courts for the assault on Pedro Mendes, but Mourinho can be sued by calling Jonhson a diver?

    If I was Drogba I would start suing everyone that says he dives as well! And as we know you are only as guilty as the Lawyer you are capable of paying for!!!

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