Homepoiuy1 wrote:Ho Ho Ho the liverpool fans are such jokers :cough:
another cutting comment punty, seriously back off a bit you'll have us all in tears.
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Re: Cristiano Ronaldo on his way to Madrid
by Glenarch of the Glen Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:32 am
another cutting comment punty, seriously back off a bit you'll have us all in tears.
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Obispo wrote:Roger_Hunt wrote:The difference between Smith and Gerrard is that Gerrard didn't leave. Oh, and talent.
Sticking with the Smith-Jab as opposed to the Rooney-Hayemaker?
Yup.
1) My OH is a Leeds fan (poor thing) so I've picked up a lot of Smith hatred.
2) At least Wazza didn't sign for the Toffees arch-enemy, and earned the club a fat pile of cash in the process. Everyone at Leeds knew Smith was going to go - it was the fact that he went to Man U that stuck in their throats.
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United fans like Smiths commitment and the fact it pisses of Leeds United fans, because we stole there golden boy.
Gerrard wanted to leave but the criminal underground (overground in Liverpool as its rife) threatened him and his family plus he realised he would just be another player at Chelsea and wouldnt be hero worshiped.
Gerrard wanted to leave but the criminal underground (overground in Liverpool as its rife) threatened him and his family plus he realised he would just be another player at Chelsea and wouldnt be hero worshiped.
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Rez wrote:United fans like Smiths commitment and the fact it pisses of Leeds United fans, because we stole there golden boy.
And made him even more shit than he already was. Looking at it dispassionately, £7m for him looks like a fabulous deal for Leeds now.
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Re: Cristiano Ronaldo on his way to Madrid
by Glenarch of the Glen Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:47 am
Roger_Hunt wrote:£7m for him looks like a fabulous deal for Leeds now.
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An England international under the age of 25, £7m is about right. Hes had a few good games for us, he is not united quality, but even if we sold him, we would get at least £6m for him, so it wasnt that fabulous.
He would get quite alot of games for Liverpool I reckon, if he was fit.
He would get quite alot of games for Liverpool I reckon, if he was fit.
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Rez wrote:United fans like Smiths commitment and the fact it pisses of Leeds United fans, because we stole there golden boy.
Gerrard wanted to leave but the criminal underground (overground in Liverpool as its rife) threatened him and his family plus he realised he would just be another player at Chelsea and wouldnt be hero worshiped.
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Roger_Hunt wrote:Rez wrote:United fans like Smiths commitment and the fact it pisses of Leeds United fans, because we stole there golden boy.
And made him even more shit than he already was. Looking at it dispassionately, £7m for him looks like a fabulous deal for Leeds now.
his value is somehow still around 6 mill, he cost 6 mill hardly a loss. just a shame he has been here for so long i wish he would fuck off
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only pooper is capable of finding this so funnypoiuy1 wrote:Rez wrote:United fans like Smiths commitment and the fact it pisses of Leeds United fans, because we stole there golden boy.
Gerrard wanted to leave but the criminal underground (overground in Liverpool as its rife) threatened him and his family plus he realised he would just be another player at Chelsea and wouldnt be hero worshiped.
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COTR wrote:only pooper is capable of finding this so funnypoiuy1 wrote:Rez wrote:United fans like Smiths commitment and the fact it pisses of Leeds United fans, because we stole there golden boy.
Gerrard wanted to leave but the criminal underground (overground in Liverpool as its rife) threatened him and his family plus he realised he would just be another player at Chelsea and wouldnt be hero worshiped.
poiuy really gets to you lot for some reason. i will have to find out what his secret is
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Problem is he's never developed he stagnated because he went to a club who play teh kind of football that he doesn't have the skills to play,
He was always playing above is level at Leeds always the underdog it's only now that we can see that.
He was always playing above is level at Leeds always the underdog it's only now that we can see that.
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Rez wrote:An England international under the age of 25, £7m is about right. Hes had a few good games for us, he is not united quality, but even if we sold him, we would get at least £6m for him, so it wasnt that fabulous.
He would get quite alot of games for Liverpool I reckon, if he was fit.
Without wishing to upset you, I think that pretty much everything you've said there is bollocks.
He was a full international but never a first choice for England. Leeds were having a fire sale, everyone else got rock-bottom prices except you. Kewell has been a bitter disappointment for us but £3m was a steal at the time.
He wouldn't get on the bench for us. He doesn't score enough goals and doesn't bring anything else in terms of passing or movement. He'll be your 5th choice striker behind Larsson and Solskjaer and if you get your central midfield sorted out he'll hardly get a game.
You might get £5-£6m from a mid-table or lower club that were struggling to sign a striker.
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poiuy1 wrote:Problem is he's never developed he stagnated
For a brief second I thought you were talking about Gerrard.
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Roger_Hunt wrote:.
You might get £5-£6m from a mid-table or lower club that were struggling to sign a striker.
So we'd lose 0.5 - 1.5 million on him then.
What did you lose on Morientes?
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Parks lives wrote:Roger_Hunt wrote:.
You might get £5-£6m from a mid-table or lower club that were struggling to sign a striker.
So we'd lose 0.5 - 1.5 million on him then.
What did you lose on Morientes?
difference being, morientes is class he just didnt cut it in england.
where as smith is just plain shit.
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Less than you lost on Veron. A comparable "big name signing".
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Rosicky wrote:Parks lives wrote:Roger_Hunt wrote:.
You might get £5-£6m from a mid-table or lower club that were struggling to sign a striker.
So we'd lose 0.5 - 1.5 million on him then.
What did you lose on Morientes?
difference being, morientes is class he just didnt cut it in england.
where as smith is just plain shit.
How DARE you bring common sense into this!
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Parks lives wrote:poiuy1 wrote:Problem is he's never developed he stagnated
For a brief second I thought you were talking about Gerrard.
Do you agree though
In some players you can't see this happening when they are promising at the start
A good scout will be able to tell from looking at them when they are younger if they are going to progress to the top level.
Hence also why teams don't go about signing every kid from Buenos Aries (SP?) or Sau Paulo
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Parks lives wrote:Roger_Hunt wrote:.
You might get £5-£6m from a mid-table or lower club that were struggling to sign a striker.
So we'd lose 0.5 - 1.5 million on him then.
What did you lose on Morientes?
What did you lose on Veron
I'm sure there are lots of other comparisons that we could make.... I still think you could have got him for £4m from Leeds if you'd negotiated better. Wasn't that just before Kenyon left for a bigger club? Maybe his eye wasn't on the ball
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Rosicky wrote:Parks lives wrote:Roger_Hunt wrote:.
You might get £5-£6m from a mid-table or lower club that were struggling to sign a striker.
So we'd lose 0.5 - 1.5 million on him then.
What did you lose on Morientes?
difference being, morientes is class he just didnt cut it in england.
where as smith is just plain shit.
So because they brought a potentially better player but it fucked up bigger than our Smith deal, they got the better deal?
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Re: Cristiano Ronaldo on his way to Madrid
by Glenarch of the Glen Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:04 pm
Parks lives wrote:
What did you lose on Morientes?
less than Smith's wages for the time he's been out
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Parks lives wrote: So because they brought a potentially better player but it fucked up bigger than our Smith deal, they got the better deal?
Eh? When it didn't work out we got rid of him - factor wages into it and Smith will cost you more than Morientes cost us.
Momo's goals per game was better than Smith's too....
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Roger_Hunt wrote:
What did you lose on Veron :)
Say what you like, I think Veron was a risk worth taking. Just won the league 3 seasons in a row and was trying to get another Champions league and he was one of the best midfielders in Europe. He still helped us to a title and had some great games in Europe.
Chelsea got a worse deal out of that anyway.
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Lets remember, when smith joined man utd he was just a striker, now he is a tough tackling midfielder as well as a striker, gotta shoot the value up
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Parks lives wrote:poiuy1 wrote:Problem is he's never developed he stagnated
For a brief second I thought you were talking about Wazza Zeroooney.
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Parks lives wrote: Say what you like, I think Veron was a risk worth taking.
Say what you like, I think Morientes was a risk worth taking.
Any more irrelevant comparisons you'd like to bring up or are you just going to admit that Smith is shit and a scumbag?
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Roger_Hunt wrote:Parks lives wrote: So because they brought a potentially better player but it fucked up bigger than our Smith deal, they got the better deal?
Eh? When it didn't work out we got rid of him - factor wages into it and Smith will cost you more than Morientes cost us.
Momo's goals per game was better than Smith's too....
Clutching at straws really.
How much were Morienties wages, how much were Smiths wages, can you really factor in a full year when he broke his leg?
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Alan Smith - 78 (26) - 11 goals
Nando - 1st team games: 61 1st team goals: 12
Nando - 1st team games: 61 1st team goals: 12
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Smith needs to get away from united ASAP or a promising career will be lost to ridicule. he isL r d wrote:Lets remember, when smith joined man utd he was just a striker, now he is a tough tackling midfielder as well as a striker, gotta shoot the value up
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Roger_Hunt wrote:Parks lives wrote: Say what you like, I think Veron was a risk worth taking.
Say what you like, I think Morientes was a risk worth taking.
Was it really? Were you successful (this was before the CL win), were you rich with strikers, did you have a lot of money to waste?
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