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Bayern: what now ?

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Post n°1

Bayern: what now ?

by Ä Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:31 pm

Deisler's surprise retirement has left Bayern Munich in a pickle

Hoeness has to buy an entire midfield this summer

1. Ribery will become the number 1 target; Bayern tend NOT to get their preferred players though; if they don't get Ribery, who else is on the market ?

2. Saliha is on his way to Juve, ON A FREE

3. Hargreaves looked likely to be sold as well at the end of the season; Hoeness might be wise NOT to sell the Canadian just to maintain a minimum of stability

on paper, Bayern could go for Robben, Ribery, Riquelme and Bastuerk

in reality, Robben is likely to go to Real, Ribery to Arsenal, Riquelme to stay put; Bastuerk is a real option though

otherwise, Bayern could shift Schweini to central attacking midfield, and make Lahm a proper midfield winger; they should then go for Jansen at left back

they will now rue the day they sold Trochowski to HSV

it's all a bit of a mess

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Re: Bayern: what now ?

by DD Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:36 pm

Keep Hargreaves & get VDV seems like a good start.
I doubt Robben would leave Chelsea, now J.Cole has done a 'Kewell'.

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Re: Bayern: what now ?

by Axeslammer Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:38 pm

Van Gaal will take over and rejuvenate the club

It's been rumoured for ages now he will take over in the summer....if he does a comparable job to what he's done for AZ, it'll be a gods gift for Bayern.

....I did read somewhere however that Van Basten might take over Yikes

Yikes

Van Bommel's comment : if that's true than there'll be two Dutchies on the transfer list....

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Re: Bayern: what now ?

by DD Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:39 pm

Axeslammer ! wrote:Van Gaal will take over and rejuvenate the club

It's been rumoured for ages now he will take over in the summer....if he does a comparable job to what he's done for AZ, it'll be a gods gift for Bayern.

....I did read somewhere however that Van Basten might take over

Van Bommel's comment : if that's true than there'll be two Dutchies on the transfer list....out

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Re: Bayern: what now ?

by Machiavel Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:41 pm

DD wrote:Keep Hargreaves & get VDV seems like a good start.
I doubt Robben would leave Chelsea, now J.Cole has done a 'Kewell'.

VDV may go to Barcelona ...

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Re: Bayern: what now ?

by bluenine Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:17 pm

VDV sounds like a more realistic option... Bayern tend not to buy too expensive stars... so I guess some poaching may happen in the german, dutch or french leagues...

otto: Albion's No 1 fan wrote:Deisler's surprise retirement has left Bayern Munich in a pickle

Hoeness has to buy an entire midfield this summer

1. Ribery will become the number 1 target; Bayern tend NOT to get their preferred players though; if they don't get Ribery, who else is on the market ?

2. Saliha is on his way to Juve, ON A FREE

3. Hargreaves looked likely to be sold as well at the end of the season; Hoeness might be wise NOT to sell the Canadian just to maintain a minimum of stability

on paper, Bayern could go for Robben, Ribery, Riquelme and Bastuerk

in reality, Robben is likely to go to Real, Ribery to Arsenal, Riquelme to stay put; Bastuerk is a real option though

otherwise, Bayern could shift Schweini to central attacking midfield, and make Lahm a proper midfield winger; they should then go for Jansen at left back

they will now rue the day they sold Trochowski to HSV

it's all a bit of a mess

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Re: Bayern: what now ?

by The Easter Bunny Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:19 pm

wierd
Van Gaal always takes over bayern munich on FM07
even stranger thing is he gets them relegated.

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Re: Bayern: what now ?

by Ä Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:19 pm

van Gaal will not come any time soon

Bayern are unlikely to sack Magath unless he really blows it this time

VDV would now be a real option, agreed

having said that, if Beiersdorfer sells VDV , he might as well resign

Bayern should sack Hoeness and get Allofs; sooner rather than later

would not be surprised if they made a move for Diego

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Re: Bayern: what now ?

by chrissicross Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:31 pm

otto: Albion's No 1 fan wrote:
Bayern should sack Hoeness and get Allofs; sooner rather than later

would not be surprised if they made a move for Diego

Yeah, why not simply buy Werder Bremen as a whole... Rolling Eyes

Rolling Eyes

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Re: Bayern: what now ?

by Isar Truppe Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:02 pm

We have some very good midfielders in our team at present. And we will still have good midfielders in the summer when the others have left. Otto, dear lad, if you're trying to panic Bayern fans into some kind of ridiculous crusade against Hoeness and Magath then you need to work a lot harder.

I agree that selling Trochowski was a mistake, in hindsight. Yet that was 2 years ago now. Who could have forseen all of these developments?

Hoeness will have to do something he never has before, and that is spend real money. VdV would be my preferred option. Ribery, Riquelme, Robben, Basturk and Cristiano Ronaldo are all possibilities.

We'll just have to wait until the summer and see what happens.

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Re: Bayern: what now ?

by Roger Hunt Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:05 pm

Isar Truppe wrote: VdV would be my preferred option. Ribery, Riquelme, Robben, Basturk and Cristiano Ronaldo are all possibilities.

We'll just have to wait until the summer and see what happens.

Why would a player in the best form of his life move to a smaller club in a less prestigious league to earn less money?

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Re: Bayern: what now ?

by Isar Truppe Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:28 pm

Smaller club? scratch

scratch

More successful, more official supporters, more money, better beer.

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Re: Bayern: what now ?

by Roger Hunt Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:15 pm

Bayern have similar success in the last 20 years, less supporters worldwide, less money (Man U consistently in top 2 richest clubs).

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Re: Bayern: what now ?

by Batman Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:57 pm

How about this?

- - - - - - - - - - - Oliver Kahn - - - - - - - - - - -

Sagnol - - - - Lucio - - Van Buyten - - - - Lahm

- Van Bommel - Borowski - Schweinsteiger -

- - - - - - - - - - - - Riquelme - - - - - - - - - - - -

- - - - - - - Makaay - - - - - Podolski - - - - - - -

Or play Andreas Ottl/Demichelis instead of Van Bommel, so you will have a DM player in the midfield.

Sell Hargreaves and sign Riquelme in Jan.
Sign Borowski in the summer.

What do you think Bayern fans?

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Re: Bayern: what now ?

by DS Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:58 pm

Even if he sell Hargreaves , that will be for around 17 m pound , we can easily get 2 good players for that much.
Another winger is wanted though , a good one.
VDV is a realistic target specially if HSV get relegated.

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Re: Bayern: what now ?

by DS Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:59 pm

@Batman
Bremen wont be too keen to sell.

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Re: Bayern: what now ?

by Tweesus Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:18 pm

Ribery is crap, I hope to God we don't get him.

Do you think Ottyl will make the grade?

*puts on Champo hat*

What I would do is bid for Zokora, he hasn't been overly impressive at Spurs so far and they might be willing to listen to offers, you can tell he has class as well - so thats the DM sorted.

Right wing... hmm... You have Scweine on the left who will be cutting in so ideally you could do with someone that sticks on the wing and whips in the crosses, how about SWP? Wink

Wink

Basturk sounds good for an attacking midfielder.

@ Isar

There is no way whatsoever that ronaldo would consider joining Bayern.

If he leaves then IMO its only to Madrid, Juve or possibly Inter

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Re: Bayern: what now ?

by DS Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:22 pm

Basturk is a decent option but a squad player at most not a first teamer , Ottl has a good chance of making it (IMO) he has to add some attacking threat to his game though.
SWP would be too expensive , better players then him are worth less.
For DMC i would like us to get Kehl.

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Re: Bayern: what now ?

by Batman Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:23 pm

is Pizarro and Cruz out of contract in the summer?

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Re: Bayern: what now ?

by DS Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:24 pm

And no way Ronnie is coming to Bayern , if he leaves United then it will be for Spain.

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Re: Bayern: what now ?

by DS Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:26 pm

Pizzaro is out of contract this summer.

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Re: Bayern: what now ?

by DS Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:27 pm

Perhaps get Kevin Prince Boateng.

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Re: Bayern: what now ?

by Machiavel Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:53 pm

Bayern Munich are interested in signing Riquelme.

Valencian TV station Canal 9 claims that Argentinian giants Boca Juniors, Mexican duo America and Rayados de Monterrey and Bundesliga big boys Bayern Munich are also interested.

It is believed Villarreal are happy to let the 28-year-old go, but Riquelme's departure depends on the player's willingness to leave.

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Re: Bayern: what now ?

by chrissicross Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:14 pm

Batman wrote:How about this?

- - - - - - - - - - - Oliver Kahn - - - - - - - - - - -

Sagnol - - - - Lucio - - Van Buyten - - - - Lahm

- Van Bommel - Borowski - Schweinsteiger -

- - - - - - - - - - - - Riquelme - - - - - - - - - - - -

- - - - - - - Makaay - - - - - Podolski - - - - - - -

Or play Andreas Ottl/Demichelis instead of Van Bommel, so you will have a DM player in the midfield.

Sell Hargreaves and sign Riquelme in Jan.
Sign Borowski in the summer.

What do you think Bayern fans?

Borowski is NOT for sale.

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Re: Bayern: what now ?

by chrissicross Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:15 pm

With regard to Riquelme, Bayern's manager said in an interview recently, they wouldn't be so mad to sign him...

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Re: Bayern: what now ?

by Axeslammer Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:43 pm

Bilal wrote:
VDV is a realistic target specially if HSV get relegated.

VDV is a fantastic player.....but he'll keep getting injured I'm afraid Sad

Sad

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Re: Bayern: what now ?

by DS Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:08 am

Yeah he is injury prone or but he is one of the most realisitic targets we can get.

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Re: Bayern: what now ?

by Stiftung Haeschentest Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:15 am

There is no reason to panic at the moment, but the summer will be a real challenge for Hoeness.

VDV is the most likely target IMO. Doesn't look like the HSV has sorted out his problems in the winter break, so VDV might want to leave the sinking ship at the end of the season.

I've heard, Hoeness hasn't yet talked with Ribery because he didn't wanted to put too much pressure on Deisler. Now after Basti's retirement, I hope Hoeness takes the initiative to get Ribery.

Re Boateng should stay in Berlin for two or three more years. He's not yet prepared to play at Bayern and would probably end as a second Rau. Shocked

Shocked

Does Gerland have some young German midfielders in his team? Only know Kopplin and Kroos. Kooplin is a defender, right? And Kroos is a bit too young I guess, but maybe there is an USEFUL player in the Bayern youth or Bayern II team for the bench?! Btw what has happened with Görlitz? Is he injured?

Regarding Hargreaves, before the retirement of Deisler and Brazzo's decision, I was 100% sure Bayern would sell him at the end of the season, but now with at least 5 mids (Scholl, Karimi, Brazzo, Deisler, Dos Santos) leaving/retiring, I seriously doubt it. Ottl is not really an option yet and going into a new season with probably 5 or 6 new midfielders, who will need time to settle in, is not really Bayern-esque, is it.

All in all, Hoeness will have some sleepless nights, but I hope he takes the money they have and invest it into some international players in the summer (e.g. Ribery, Robben or Riquelme), and the remaining gaps were filled with some players from other Bundesliga clubs (e.g. Schlaudraff, Altintop, Bastürk or VDV).
And who knows, maybe it's a start of a bright future... scratch

scratch

Biggrin

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Re: Bayern: what now ?

by Isar Truppe Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:04 am

Roger_Hunt wrote:Bayern have similar success in the last 20 years, less supporters worldwide, less money (Man U consistently in top 2 richest clubs).

Are Man Utd not £600 million in debt which is why a lot of their "hardcore supporters" dumped them and formed a new club?

And the similar success thing over the last 20 years is a joke. Football didn't start 20 years ago, and even if it did our record in all competitions is much better.

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Re: Bayern: what now ?

by Roger Hunt Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:16 am

Man United do have a lot of debt, but at the moment and for as long as they continue to be successful on the pitch they seem to have more money available to spend on transfers and wages than Bayern seem to be willing to do. As for their hardcore supporters dumping them - they have the largest capacity stadium of any club in England and it's almost always nearly sold out.

Agree that football didn't start 20 years ago (and on that basis Liverpool are a bigger club than Bayern Wink

Wink

) but recent performance is more important to players because they want to join a winning side. And your domestic record is only better than Man United because your domestic league is weaker.

I can't believe I've just done 3 posts on how Man U are a big club Doh

Doh

. No-one tell Parks.

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