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What should Bayern do next ?

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What should Bayern do next ?

by Ä Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:13 pm

reports have it that Bayern are seriously looking into signing Klose; Allofs will NEVER sell Klose for a ridiculous 5 million to Barca; anything under 20 million is not acceptable

if Hoeness opens his pockets, a deal could be on the cards

very clever move

VDV has also voiced his frustration at HSV now, saying the relegation struggle cost him 5 years (presumably in terms of energy spent; mentally)

yet again , Bayern could solve their problems by buying within the Bundesliga; their oldest trick in the book; HSV would not sell for anything under 10-15 million though, I suppose

Alintop, Schlaudraff and Sosa are already bought

Klose, VDV and finally, Robben, could follow

not a bad team at all

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-------- Rensing----------

Sagnol ---- Lucio -- Ismael ---- Lahm

Robben - van der Vaart- van Bommel - Schweini

--------Klose - Poldi ---------

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Re: What should Bayern do next ?

by chrissicross Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:20 pm

VDV would make a lot of sense for Bayern imo. It´s strange they don´t at least try to sign him...

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Re: What should Bayern do next ?

by Ä Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:28 pm

chrissi

Bayern probably DO try to sign him behind the scenes

they have ZERO imagination and the VDV deal is just too obvious to be true

HSV will not want to sell, but Beiersdorfer is a firm believer in "you cannot keep players who don't want to stay"

I can see Bayern offering 15 mill for him and HSV accepting

let's face it, Trochowski could step forward

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the Klose deal is more tricky; the boy wants to go abroad but if the insults like 5 mill keep coming Allofs won't sell

Klose to Bayern would be better than Toni to Bayern

he knows the league, the language, many of the players, the culture and is better as well

Allofs does not want to lose Klose whilst strengthening Bayern; but if Hoeness offers 20 million and Klose wants to go, there is little Allofs can do

first the Weisswurstbrigade has to qualify for the CL though

Bayern might also need another centre-back; but who ?

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Re: What should Bayern do next ?

by chrissicross Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:03 pm

Otto der Schweinehund wrote:chrissi

Bayern probably DO try to sign him behind the scenes

they have ZERO imagination and the VDV deal is just too obvious to be true

HSV will not want to sell, but Beiersdorfer is a firm believer in "you cannot keep players who don't want to stay"

I can see Bayern offering 15 mill for him and HSV accepting

let's face it, Trochowski could step forward

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Yeah, I agree. VDV is the obvious choice for Bayern, they won´t get a foreign top player, even more if they don´t qualify for the CL, which is likely imo. VDV on the other side can´t stay, the HSV don´t even play in the UEFA Cup next season and the future looks uncertain.

It might become a big problem for Bayern though, if VDV has also offers from top clubs abroad.

Otto der Schweinehund wrote:the Klose deal is more tricky; the boy wants to go abroad but if the insults like 5 mill keep coming Allofs won't sell

Klose to Bayern would be better than Toni to Bayern

he knows the league, the language, many of the players, the culture and is better as well

Allofs does not want to lose Klose whilst strengthening Bayern; but if Hoeness offers 20 million and Klose wants to go, there is little Allofs can do

Hmm, Klose and Toni would both be great for Bayern, but I seriously doubt Toni will come to Bayern and Allofs won´t sell Klose to Bayern unless they don´t pay much more than any club abroad.

Otto der Schweinehund wrote:
first the Weisswurstbrigade has to qualify for the CL though

Yeah, otherwise it would be even much more difficult for Bayern to sign good players.

Otto der Schweinehund wrote:Bayern might also need another centre-back; but who ?

NOT Merte or Naldo, that´s for sure. Biggrin

Biggrin

So with Metzelder going to Real I guess Bayern will hardly find a better CB than van Buyten in the Bundesliga.

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by Parks lives Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:14 pm

Are Bayern relying on our sterling? Biggrin

Biggrin

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by Tom Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:52 pm

Honestly dont see Robben moving to Bayern. If anywhere he'll move to spain or italy, more precisely to Inter or Madrid. But as of now, hes not going anywhere

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by TM Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:57 pm

@ Otto.

Sign Raul Bravo - Quality player with tonnes of experience; he's a CL/Liga/Supercup/Intercontential Winner!

Also he has a habit of taking out the opposition's key players (Ie. Pavel Nedved in the CL a couple of years ago)

Very versatile too; Right Back, Left Back, Center Back, CF...Right back in the changing room, Left back in the changing room, sweeping the changing room

And all at a reasonable price : 10M Pounds.

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by Riviera Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:12 pm

Bayern should do some foreign hunting . Buy some africans, they'll do the trick you see

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by DS Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:32 pm

I am waiting impatiently to see what we do this time , needs alot of changes in my view (not only players wise).
I am hoping that Hitzfeld would really know what he wants and we would do our best to get them.

Everybody obviously knows what areas we need players in ,
AMC - Carvalho , Van Der Vaart , Bodmer
AMR -Though I am happy with Schlaudraff and Sosa , Kieta would not be a bad buy.
AML- Cover for Schweni or someone replacing him if he isnt playing well , Jansen
ST-Amauri ,Farfan,Love

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Re: What should Bayern do next ?

by chrissicross Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:42 pm

Klose vor dem Absprung: Bayern soll das Ziel sein

Aber auch der FC Barcelona will den Werder-Stürmer

Von Arne Flügge und Björn Knips

BREMEN. Miroslav Klose trifft wieder - aber nicht nur ins Tor, sondern auch mitten ins Herz der Werder-Fans. Denn wie diese Zeitung erfuhr, liebäugelt der Nationalspieler mit einem Wechsel zum FC Bayern München. Das ist ein echter Hammer! Bislang hatte der 28-Jährige stets betont, höchstens ins Ausland zu einem europäischen Spitzenclub wechseln zu wollen. Damit hätten Werder und auch die Fans bei einer entsprechenden Ablösesumme durchaus leben können. Aber Bayern - das tut richtig weh. Zumal sich die Münchner nicht nur verstärken, sondern wieder einmal einen Konkurrenten schwächen würden.

Dass der Noch-Meister Klose unbedingt haben will, unterstrich Bayern-Boss Karl-Heinz Rummenigge gestern noch einmal in der "Bild"-Zeitung: "Wenn er sich eine Zukunft beim FC Bayern vorstellen kann, dann werden wir uns mit diesem Thema beschäftigen. Sofort!"

Wohl oder übel wird sich auch Werder-Sportchef Klaus Allofs damit auseinandersetzen müssen. Denn es gibt eine klare Absprache mit Klose, die ein kategorisches Nein zu einem Wechsel an die Isar ausschließt. "Wir stehen bei Miro im Wort, uns mit Anfragen zu beschäftigen, unabhängig davon, woher das Angebot kommt", sagte Allofs. Der 50-Jährige stellte aber auch klar, dass ihm eine Offerte der Bayern gar nicht schmecken würde: "Wir wollen ja keinen Konkurrenten stark machen."

Da dürfte es Allofs gerne hören, dass nun auch der FC Barcelona an einer Verpflichtung von Klose interessiert sein soll. Die spanische Sporttageszeitung "Marca" behauptet gar, dass sich der Bremer Stürmer mit dem Champions-League-Sieger bereits einig sei und ein mündliches Agreement bestehen würde. Verhandlungen mit Werder über eine Ablösesumme habe es allerdings noch nicht gegeben. Und die dürften auch schwierig werden: Denn "Barca" bietet angeblich gerade einmal fünf Millionen Euro Ablösesumme, weil Kloses Vertrag in einem Jahr ausläuft. Zu diesen Bedingungen wird Werder seinen Top-Angreifer ganz sicher nicht ziehen lassen.

Von Mirolsav Klose ist frühestens heute Abend nach dem Gastspiel bei Borussia Dortmund (17 Uhr) eine Stellungnahme zu erwarten. Dann will er seinen nach dem Alkmaar-Spiel selbst übergestülpten Maulkorb wieder abstreifen und sich den Medien stellen. Doch zum Thema FC Bayern wird er sich wohl kaum äußern. Denn ein öffentliches Bekenntnis zu einem Wechsel gen München würde ihm das Leben in Bremen richtig schwer machen. Da sind die Fans ganz empfindlich. Und diese Unruhe könnte Werder im Kampf um den Meistertitel und den UEFA-Cup gehörig schaden.

[15.04.2007]

http://syke.mzv.net/news/stories/werder/?id=85314

According to this article from a local Bremen newspaper Klose is favouring a move to Bayern Munich, and it seems it isn´t based on that article in Bild yesterday.

Very surprising, he always said he wanted to move abroad. But it seems he couldn´t find a foreign top club who was willing to pay between 15-20 million Euro for him. So maybe he´s just waiting if Bayern qualifies for the CL.

Well, needless to say Bremen fans are not delighted to hear such news.

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Re: What should Bayern do next ?

by Machiavel Sun Apr 15, 2007 1:07 pm

If VDV had any sense; he would move to La Liga

Barcelona would be ideal.

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by DS Sun Apr 15, 2007 1:13 pm

And why would Barca want him.

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by Machiavel Sun Apr 15, 2007 1:18 pm

Dark Savant wrote:And why would Barca want him.

He could replace Deco ?

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by Ä Sun Apr 15, 2007 1:43 pm

what about this triangle exchange ??

Makaay goes to HSV

in return, HSV send VDV to Barca

who , in return, give Deco to Bayern ???

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VDV to Bayern is not unlikely though, IF Bayern are happy to big A LOT of money

VDV cannot really leave Germany, his wife has made the Vaterland her business home (she's the face of Otto, has a brilliant relationship with Bild...)

with VDV, Makaay and van Bommel all at Bayern, it would not surprise me , if they could lure Robben there as well

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as for Klose joining the Weisswuerste

Hoeness has to understand that he COSTS money

no nonsense 10 million offer or so; then Bayern have a good chance of getting him

let's see whether Hoeness can step up

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for Werder it would be a blow, obviously; but not the end of the world, depending on the money

Klose IS unsettled at the moment, and COULD still be next season; the goals are now spread more widely, ditto the assists

ie, in football terms, based on current performance levels, Klose is replaceable

IF Bremen get something like 20 mill, they could make Gomez/Stuttgart an offer they might not want to refuse

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the only downside for WErder: Klose at Bayern would almost certainly be better than Klose at Werder NOW; his presence and assists would also revive Poldi; Bayern would become considerably stronger

Bundesliga fans would rejoice though

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by Machiavel Sun Apr 15, 2007 1:45 pm

VDV cannot really leave Germany, his wife has made the Vaterland her business home

This says a lot.

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by Parks lives Sun Apr 15, 2007 1:57 pm

Aparently we could be signing Hargreaves with in the next week, now Bayern are out of the CL.

Problem is for us, it could be £20 million or 30 million euros. Erm

Erm

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by Ä Sun Apr 15, 2007 2:12 pm

Parks lives wrote:Aparently we could be signing Hargreaves with in the next week, now Bayern are out of the CL.

Problem is for us, it could be £20 million or 30 million euros.

Hoeness has played the Hargreaves card quite well so far

he really HAS to sell the good boy now IF ManU pay 30 mill Euro

Hargreaves may be the best Englander at the moment, but Bayern have suitable replacements in Ottl, van Bommel and Demichilis; besides Owen he was poor against Milan in the return leg

they could also try to buy Kehl for something like 7 mill Euro

Hoeness has made the point that they won't sell just because the money is good

they also got truckloads of free publicity in the ENglish media during the transfer speculation period

well done, now sell him

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by chrissicross Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:03 pm

There were rumours lately that Valencia want VDV. Should Frings leave us at the end of the season, VDV would be a very good alternative for our midfield as well imo. Okay, it´s unlikely, but he seems to be unhappy at the HSV and Bremen is not far from Hamburg. With Frings leaving we could surely also pay him more than he currently earns, and he can play CL football here.

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by blutgraetsche Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:10 pm

No, we don't want VDV as a replacement for Frings. Different players, and VDV is almost as often injured as Deisler used to be (-> way too expensive for the few matches he'd play), and we already have too many injuries to handle every year (because our players get fouled so often I guess). Besides, I don't want HSV players playing for us.

Einmal HSV, immer HSV.

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by chrissicross Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:32 pm

blutgraetsche wrote:No, we don't want VDV as a replacement for Frings. Different players, and VDV is almost as often injured as Deisler used to be (-> way too expensive for the few matches he'd play), and we already have too many injuries to handle every year (because our players get fouled so often I guess). Besides, I don't want HSV players playing for us.

Einmal HSV, immer HSV.

He will probably play 26/34 matches for HSV this season. Add the three games suspension for his silly red card and it will be 29/34 matches this season. Not too bad imo.

I would welcome him at Bremen. Very Happy

Very Happy

Won´t happen though.

No HSV player? I would like to have Trochowski in Bremen as well...

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by blutgraetsche Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:36 pm

Trochowski is a Bayern player originally, that's different. VDV might be originally from Amsterdam as well, but he basically is "Mr. HSV" these days. But too injury prone, and I can't see Diego and VDV, two similar players, work in the midfield. Our midfield would be too lightweight also.

The only positive aspect is that HSV would hate us even more, but that can't be enough for us to consider the transfer.

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by Kroos Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:43 pm

diego > vdv

for bayern

we have enough dutchies already^^

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by blutgraetsche Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:45 pm

Forget it Deisler, you won't get Diego. We'd rather wear Lederhosen all year and sing "Hamburg meine Perle" during every match before that happens. Will. Not. Happen.

VDV however seems to be a realistic target for Bayern, and he could help you. But yeah, you'd have quite a few Käsefüße indeed.

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by Ricardo Jol Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:46 pm

Deisler wrote:diego > vdv

for bayern

we have enough dutchies already^^

Diego is indeed too good for bremen

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by blutgraetsche Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:48 pm

Diego is in a team full of class players, and therefore definitely not "too good" for Bremen. Talking nonsense again Ricardo, what else is new?

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by chrissicross Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:15 pm

blutgraetsche wrote:Trochowski is a Bayern player originally, that's different. VDV might be originally from Amsterdam as well, but he basically is "Mr. HSV" these days. But too injury prone, and I can't see Diego and VDV, two similar players, work in the midfield. Our midfield would be too lightweight also.

The only positive aspect is that HSV would hate us even more, but that can't be enough for us to consider the transfer.

But VDV can play every position in the midfield, even as DMC or as some kind of striker. He is good offensively and defensively, and he would be a great replacement for Diego if he´s suspended or injured. We were lucky so far Diego didn´t suffer any injuries this season...and sorry, but my dislike for HSV doesn´t go so far that I don´t want a player just because he played for the HSV in the past. I wouldn´t have anything against Christian Pander in Bremen for example only because he plays for Schlacke.

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by blutgraetsche Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:19 pm

VDV is worthless as a DMC, he is too weak defensively. VDV needs a free role behind the strikers to be most effective, exactly the position Diego plays for us. Do you want to import the main problem of Oranje (VDV and Sneijder too similar) to Bremen?

VDV would never be satisfied with a backup role for Diego either.
We simply need a different type of player should Frings leave. We need a true central midfielder, an engine in the midfield winning balls and pushing the team forward. VDV is not that type of player.

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by Ricardo Jol Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:19 pm

i don't think diego and vdv would work in one team.... the team is not balanced then.

But when Diego has left Bremen VDV would be a good replacement!

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by chrissicross Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:48 pm

Well, I don´t agree Diego and VDV would not work in one team. Playing on the right side in Frings currenct position might not be the best position for him and he´s defensively not as good as Frings, but then again where do you find a Frings clone with all his experience, the same qualities, who would come to Bremen? You just can´t buy a second Frings, so you have to find a compromise.

Btw, I don´t want VDV as back up for Diego, only if Diego is suspended or injured. Otherwise I would want him in the right/left midfield for Frings/Borowski.

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by chrissicross Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:50 pm

Btw, when we buy Carlos Alberto in the summer, we would basically have the same situation, at least from what I know about C.A.

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