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    Post by "Tuffy" Monag Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:20 pm

    Tweedle wrote:Everyone else looking forward to the confusion of 4 linesmen on the pitch should be great!

    idiot

    I'm SO pissed off I could smash someones face in! what idiots voted this nutcase in?

    He's just going to tell refs to get harsher and RUIN the game.

    The 4 linesmen, is two running the line as usual, and one at each of the goal line, to help resolve if the ball crossed the line, and penalty decissions.
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    Post by COTR Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:20 pm

    Batman wrote:
    Roger_Hunt wrote:
    Batman wrote:bad news for Liverpool, only 3 teams in the CL from the Prem soon.

    Roger Hunt is very surprised that Batman can't count, Liverpool 3rd last season and 3rd in the table at the moment.

    IMO i think Arsenal are a better team than Liverpool this season and i can't see this changing next season.
    lol!

    Can you not read batman ?? Wink
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    Post by Deano Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:21 pm

    Hendrik Krol wrote:@ Deano

    It will not happen overnight .. its his long term plan.

    Europe is for all Europeans, not a select few who happen to dominate .. the 'current' status quo will be destroyed and a NEW EUROPEAN ORDER is being put into place.

    isnt this decided by qualifiers...as Parky I think said...

    The champions of the smaller leagues have to play against the 4th best team of Spain,Italy and England or the 3rd best teams of France and Holland...

    the fact is...they get beat because they aren't good enough...so why would they be good enough for the CL??

    if any of them were good enough we would see them in the CL year...

    so why should Arsenal or Lazio be in the UEFA Cup at the expence of a shit team from a small country
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    Post by Machiavel Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:22 pm

    @ Tweedle

    He may be the President of UEFA, but he cant change the rules of the game .. hes suggested it, but many FA's of the nations may decline it..

    He cant break FIFA and IFAB (International Football Association Board) rules and protocols.
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:22 pm

    We're only just over half way through the season COTR, wait until the end...

    We've certainly porved that we're the mustard against the big boys though
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    Post by L r d Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:25 pm

    Tweedle wrote:We're only just over half way through the season COTR, wait until the end...

    We've certainly porved that we're the luckiest cunts in the world against the new champs though
    Biggrin
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    Post by Machiavel Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:25 pm

    Deaño-WHUFC wrote:
    Hendrik Krol wrote:@ Deano

    It will not happen overnight .. its his long term plan.

    Europe is for all Europeans, not a select few who happen to dominate .. the 'current' status quo will be destroyed and a NEW EUROPEAN ORDER is being put into place.

    isnt this decided by qualifiers...as Parky I think said...

    The champions of the smaller leagues have to play against the 4th best team of Spain,Italy and England or the 3rd best teams of France and Holland...

    the fact is...they get beat because they aren't good enough...so why would they be good enough for the CL??

    if any of them were good enough we would see them in the CL year...

    so why should Arsenal or Lazio be in the UEFA Cup at the expence of a shit team from a small country

    I'm not totally sure, but his suggestion of limiting teams from England, Spain and Italy is ok and maybe through the UEFA coefficient give the 'lesser' nations compared to the big 3 (Germany, Holland, France, Portugal etc) a added team to the Champions League and UEFA Cup

    We are speculating, does anyone know his plans .. we just have to wait and see.
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    Post by Batman Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:26 pm

    COTR wrote:
    Batman wrote:
    Roger_Hunt wrote:
    Batman wrote:bad news for Liverpool, only 3 teams in the CL from the Prem soon.

    Roger Hunt is very surprised that Batman can't count, Liverpool 3rd last season and 3rd in the table at the moment.

    IMO i think Arsenal are a better team than Liverpool this season and i can't see this changing next season.
    lol!

    Can you not read batman ?? Wink

    i didn't know that the Premiership is over already?
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    Post by L r d Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:26 pm

    COTR wrote:
    Batman wrote:
    Roger_Hunt wrote:
    Batman wrote:bad news for Liverpool, only 3 teams in the CL from the Prem soon.

    Roger Hunt is very surprised that Batman can't count, Liverpool 3rd last season and 3rd in the table at the moment.

    IMO i think Arsenal are a better team than Liverpool this season and i can't see this changing next season.
    lol!

    Can you not read batman ?? Wink

    Best ignored CotR. Even by the usual WUM standards on here that was scrapping the bottom of the barrel. Watch you don't get splinters, Bruce.
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:26 pm

    L r d wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:We're only just over half way through the season COTR, wait until the end...

    We've certainly porved that we're the luckiest cunts in the world against the new champs though
    Biggrin

    Lucky?

    We fully deserved out victory against you lot!
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    Post by L r d Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:27 pm

    Batman wrote:
    COTR wrote:
    Batman wrote:
    Roger_Hunt wrote:
    Batman wrote:bad news for Liverpool, only 3 teams in the CL from the Prem soon.

    Roger Hunt is very surprised that Batman can't count, Liverpool 3rd last season and 3rd in the table at the moment.

    IMO i think Arsenal are a better team than Liverpool this season and i can't see this changing next season.
    lol!

    Can you not read batman ?? Wink

    i didn't know that the Premiership is over already?

    Funny that, because you lot have been acting like it has been for about 3 months.
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    Post by Parks lives Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:30 pm

    You lot?

    Poor.
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    Post by Batman Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:37 pm

    Obispo wrote:
    Batman wrote:
    COTR wrote:
    Batman wrote:
    Roger_Hunt wrote:
    Batman wrote:bad news for Liverpool, only 3 teams in the CL from the Prem soon.

    Roger Hunt is very surprised that Batman can't count, Liverpool 3rd last season and 3rd in the table at the moment.

    IMO i think Arsenal are a better team than Liverpool this season and i can't see this changing next season.
    lol!

    Can you not read batman ?? Wink

    i didn't know that the Premiership is over already?

    Funny that, because you lot have been acting like it has been for about 3 months.

    Liverpool can still finish 2nd or 4th, the same with Arsenal. but i doubt they will win the league.

    i have posted

    how Liverpool are overrated

    are people underestimating Arsenal

    Arsenal will have a better season than Liverpool

    Barca will beat Liverpool in the CL, etc...

    Now if Liverpool win the League or CL Doh i will look like a big twat.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:56 pm

    "Tuffy" Monag wrote:yehhhhhhhh!

    Best news of the millenium for REAL FOOTBALL fans... cheers
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    Post by Forza It Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:58 pm

    I think this is great news.

    It's about time that the big leagues had a place cut. 4 teams in the Champions League really devalues the "Champions" part of the tournament.
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    Post by Deano Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:59 pm

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:I think this is great news.

    It's about time that the big leagues had a place cut. 4 teams in the Champions League really devalues the "Champions" part of the tournament.

    it also devalues the competitiveness of the competition....
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    Post by Forza It Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:00 pm

    Deaño-WHUFC wrote:
    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:I think this is great news.

    It's about time that the big leagues had a place cut. 4 teams in the Champions League really devalues the "Champions" part of the tournament.

    it also devalues the competitiveness of the competition....

    I don't know. If Platini is also going to cut the number of teams, or even change the format a bit so there are less games, then that is a good thing IMO.

    Any impact on competitiveness will be temporary as the rest of Europe catches up.
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    Post by L r d Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:01 pm

    One thing that should be noted is how much it cocks up the rest of the league for those teams outside of 4th place.

    Last season and the year before Everton and Spurs relied on one of the big 4 having an off season - plausable enough.

    There's no way that 2 of them will though. Kind of makes the league pointless for anyone in the top 12.
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    Post by Deano Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:02 pm

    yeah but half these clubs are miles behind Forza....

    so you'd rather see HJK Helsinki, Dynamo Minsk and FC Vaduz in the CL instead of Arsenal,Valencia and Lazio?
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    Post by Deano Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:04 pm

    @Obi...thats another point...

    for a team like Us,Spurs,Newcastle etc...this is what we relied in to get into Europe...and were hoping to build and improv to compete with the top 4...

    we'll never compete as top 3 no chance...
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:05 pm

    yes every club needs to get a fair chance! It is clear nowadays the UEFA only choose to give the Englsih, Italians and Spainsh a chance.

    The rest is there just for the cat's cunt
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    Post by Machiavel Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:05 pm

    Deaño-WHUFC wrote:@Obi...thats another point...

    for a team like Us,Spurs,Newcastle etc...this is what we relied in to get into Europe...and were hoping to build and improv to compete with the top 4...

    we'll never compete as top 3 no chance...

    That's in England...

    Good news in Germany, France, Portugal, Holland, Scandinavia, Eastern Europe and Belgium etc
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:07 pm

    Deaño-WHUFC wrote:@Obi...thats another point...

    for a team like Us,Spurs,Newcastle etc...this is what we relied in to get into Europe...and were hoping to build and improv to compete with the top 4...

    we'll never compete as top 3 no chance...
    The only team that has had to rely on a top 4 team having an off season is Everton. scratch
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    Post by Deano Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:08 pm

    @Ricardo-thats right...they have their chance in the qualifiers to get through to the CL..they get beat so dont go through..simple.END OF ok

    @Rai-Yep lest fuck up the major leagues so Ricardo and Otto can start their Ducth and German are as good campaign and make Europe a happy place when AZ are playing Ruzemberok in the CL group stages...

    Ale lets all clap Platini
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    Post by Deano Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:09 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    Deaño-WHUFC wrote:@Obi...thats another point...

    for a team like Us,Spurs,Newcastle etc...this is what we relied in to get into Europe...and were hoping to build and improv to compete with the top 4...

    we'll never compete as top 3 no chance...
    The only team that has had to rely on a top 4 team having an off season is Everton. scratch

    no..I dont mean us getting the top 4 now...

    But cutting the CL..will cut the UEFA cup places(which is what WE rely on)
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    Post by L r d Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:12 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    Deaño-WHUFC wrote:@Obi...thats another point...

    for a team like Us,Spurs,Newcastle etc...this is what we relied in to get into Europe...and were hoping to build and improv to compete with the top 4...

    we'll never compete as top 3 no chance...
    The only team that has had to rely on a top 4 team having an off season is Everton. scratch

    True, but teams building towards a challenge at the top 4, like Spurs last year and you lot in 2003/2004 are now fucked really. It's going to be just like Scotland in a few years time - not that it's not bad enough already.


    I'm torn on this whole thing. I like the idea of a more competitive UEFA cup, aswell as more evenly distributed wealth, but it's going to ruin the premiership in particular. Probably Serie A aswell...
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:12 pm

    Deaño-WHUFC wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    Deaño-WHUFC wrote:@Obi...thats another point...

    for a team like Us,Spurs,Newcastle etc...this is what we relied in to get into Europe...and were hoping to build and improv to compete with the top 4...

    we'll never compete as top 3 no chance...
    The only team that has had to rely on a top 4 team having an off season is Everton. scratch

    no..I dont mean us getting the top 4 now...

    But cutting the CL..will cut the UEFA cup places(which is what WE rely on)
    Ah right. ok


    I can't see this happening anyway, G14 will kick up a stink for sure and the big leagues FA's will be against it. Erm
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:14 pm

    It is proven again that English are selfish cunts!

    THey really don't care about Europe! Why the hell do you guys still play in Europe? Why you do not form a league with your American friends in the US of A...?

    Beckie and other top commercial stars would be in your league then....
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    Post by Deano Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:14 pm

    @Obi...Spain even more so I should think...

    the amount of different teams they have in the CL over the last few years (Betis,Celta Vigo,Sociedad) and now Sevilla...

    thats all its about...the main leagues will be fucked and will no longer be the main leagues...and this is what some people are hoping to see
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    Post by Machiavel Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:15 pm

    Deaño-WHUFC wrote:@Ricardo-thats right...they have their chance in the qualifiers to get through to the CL..they get beat so dont go through..simple.END OF ok

    @Rai-Yep lest fuck up the major leagues so Ricardo and Otto can start their Ducth and German are as good campaign and make Europe a happy place when AZ are playing Ruzemberok in the CL group stages...

    Ale lets all clap Platini

    It will not happen overnight.

    a Competition that deprives every nation bar 3 (England, Spain and Italy) from revenue, places and fairness and uses the name UEFA .. is bogus.

    UEFA is more than 3 nations, we cant simply deny nations who need the revenue to make their leagues better and more competitive so their players will stay (e.g. When Holland played Bulgaria, only 1 player who started the game plays his game in the Erevidise...) and make the teams compete on the same LEVEL PLAYING FIELD as FC Barcelona, AC Milan, Chelsea, Internazionale, Arsenal, Real Madrid etc.

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