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    Post by Tweesus Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:45 pm

    I know i've said it many times but.....

    This guy is going to be world class damn soon.... Cool
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:45 pm

    punty wrote:holy shit cesc is proving me wrong, what a goal

    What do you mean provong you wrong?

    Did you not think he was very good?
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    Post by Sgoater1 Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:57 pm

    Great performace by Arsenal, looking good qualification.
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:59 pm

    Sgoater1 wrote:Great performace by Arsenal, looking good qualification.

    to be honest, I think we're through. Can't see them beating us 4-0 at home Shocked
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:00 pm

    What a game, what a player Cesc Fabregas is. At only 19 he has to be in contention for best wonderkid - I can't think of a better one.
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:04 pm

    Glenn Hysen wrote:What a game, what a player Cesc Fabregas is. At only 19 he has to be in contention for best wonderkid - I can't think of a better one.

    Don't say that.... I said something like that last seson and never lived it down silent
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    Post by Parks lives Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:05 pm

    Martin Keown can speak. Neutral
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:06 pm

    parks lives wrote:Martin Keown can speak. Neutral

    Mostly growls and grunts....
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    Post by Parks lives Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:07 pm

    Tweedledum wrote:
    parks lives wrote:Martin Keown can speak. Neutral

    Mostly growls and grunts....

    I half expected him to beat Jim Rosenthal over the head with his club. Laughing
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    Post by L r d Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:15 pm

    Class from fabregas that second especially. reyes is off then
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:16 pm

    l r d wrote:Class from fabregas that second especially. reyes is off then

    Looks like he may be yes...

    The speculation will be rife in the tabloids tomorrow
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    Post by TheCrazy58 Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:27 pm

    Tweedledum wrote:
    l r d wrote:Class from fabregas that second especially. reyes is off then

    Looks like he may be yes...

    The speculation will be rife in the tabloids tomorrow

    Maybe there'll be photos of him in a Barca shirt Wink

    This match was a potential banana skin but the team did extremely well. Fab, Hleb, Djourou stood out in particular. Adebayor and Rosicky started brightly but faded a bit - Rosicky because he moved into the centre in 2H. Potential Achilles' heel - Hoyte, and I didn't like the way Alumnia went AWOL momentarily in the first half when Zagreb broke. Zagreb weren't up to exploting these but that won't be the case in PL.
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    Post by The Easter Bunny Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:29 pm

    Tweedledum wrote:
    punty wrote:holy shit cesc is proving me wrong, what a goal

    What do you mean provong you wrong?

    Did you not think he was very good?

    na i always thought he was over rated, well add 5 good games he has

    lets make it a hole season cesc
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:34 pm

    punty wrote:
    Tweedledum wrote:
    punty wrote:holy shit cesc is proving me wrong, what a goal

    What do you mean provong you wrong?

    Did you not think he was very good?

    na i always thought he was over rated, well add 5 good games he has

    lets make it a hole season cesc

    Hes amazing in Europe. He needs a got EPl season, but I think he still played pretty well last season to be honest.
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:35 pm

    TheCrazy58 wrote:
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    l r d wrote:Class from fabregas that second especially. reyes is off then

    Looks like he may be yes...

    The speculation will be rife in the tabloids tomorrow

    Maybe there'll be photos of him in a Barca shirt Wink

    This match was a potential banana skin but the team did extremely well. Fab, Hleb, Djourou stood out in particular. Adebayor and Rosicky started brightly but faded a bit - Rosicky because he moved into the centre in 2H. Potential Achilles' heel - Hoyte, and I didn't like the way Alumnia went AWOL momentarily in the first half when Zagreb broke. Zagreb weren't up to exploting these but that won't be the case in PL.

    I think Wenger will revert to flamini once hes match fit and Lehmann will be the regular keeper - Wenger was just resting him
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    Post by L r d Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:40 pm

    do you rat adebayor tweedle. Not to sure him myself
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    Post by The Easter Bunny Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:42 pm

    he looked a bit like drogba in this match
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:44 pm

    l r d wrote:do you rat adebayor tweedle. Not to sure him myself

    like you.

    He seems useful in the sense that hes big and can hold the ball up but he doesn't score many.

    The jury's out.

    As punty says, hes like a Drogba - very useful for the team maybe....
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    Post by Cesc Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:06 pm

    A great performance, when I seen the omissions from the squad before the match I thought there was a good chance that we may suffer a shock. Full credit to the manager and the players though, I never expected a performance of that style. Rosicky and Adebayor started well, van Persie, Hleb and Djourou (what a tackle by the way Wink ) also performed well. However the guy that will take all the pludits and rightly so is Cesc.

    IMO Cesc is going to take huge leap this year. One of the things that most people don't know about him is that he was actually a very prolific scorer at lower levels. In the U-17 world championship that he captained Spain to the final he won the Golden ball and Golden boot as a central midfielder.

    It has taken him a little bit of time to get his forward game going at this level but there were good signs at the start of last season that his running into the box and finishing were starting to really kick on, like in the CL vs Juventus.

    At the beginning of the season i told people that I was expecting him to get around 10 goals this season and he is already off to a good start.

    Now Cesc is adding goals to his game that already contains so much he really is a scary prospect. We genuinely have a wondwerkid in our hands.

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    Post by Kimbo Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:09 pm

    Good show good show, the football will slow down again tomorrow at 20:00... but never fear sexy football will resume on 5ive on thursday. <Ale>
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:09 pm

    Good post Fab

    Completely agree, he's maturing and as part of that he is learning how and when to make runs into the box. Thought he played superbly tonight. Was a tad nervous at half-time but I had faith that we were going to score although I expected it to only end 1-0 max to be truthful.

    I'm feeling a bit more positive that if we lose cole and Cesc we'll be able to cope.

    Mixed comments about the whole Reyes thing though. Wenger before the game implied that Reyes is staying and that we don't want robery, but leaving him on the bench says an altogether different story...
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:10 pm

    Kimbo wrote:Good show good show, the football will slow down again tomorrow at 20:00... but never fear sexy football will resume on 5ive on thursday. <Ale>

    Get a thread going on it mate, we can have some pre-game discussion Ale
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    Post by L r d Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:17 pm

    Kimbo wrote:Good show good show, the football will slow down again tomorrow at 20:00... but never fear sexy football will resume on 5ive on thursday. <Ale>

    Hah.

    Yeah, maybe we'll be treated to another master class of corners and heading from Nicky "sexy football" Butt.
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:19 pm

    no kind words on the game obispo? Wink
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    Post by Kimbo Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:21 pm

    Obispo wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:Good show good show, the football will slow down again tomorrow at 20:00... but never fear sexy football will resume on 5ive on thursday. <Ale>

    Hah.

    Yeah, maybe we'll be treated to another master class of corners and heading from Nicky "sexy football" Butt.

    I bet you wish Crouch could head a ball like that. <Ale>
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    Post by L r d Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:24 pm

    Tweedledum wrote:no kind words on the game obispo? Wink

    Quality goals but I'm afraid it was all I could catch. I was on the phone at the time.

    I feel slightly smug because I said for ages when I joined 606 that Cesc was the best wonderkid in the premiership. Better than Rooney. I feel as if I'm being proven correct Wink


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    Crouchy doesn't need to head the ball - we play carpet football. ...That said, he did manage 2 headed goals against your lot last season Razz
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    Post by Cesc Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:24 pm

    I really thought Reyes would start tonight and Wenger would put an end to the whole debacle. As far as I am concerned the player is as good as gone. Fair enough he says that he likes the club, but we need players that are happy in there life and that can adjust to London life, over the last 2 and half Reyes simply has'nt been able to do that. It is evident that he would like a move back to Spain and if the money is right (as long as we get our money back) I am all for it. If this is the case we need another wide player, the boss ruled out a move for Ribery today but I would not be suprised if the Boss was bluffing. Maybe we could get Wright-Phillips as part of the imminent Cole deal.

    I am optimistic for the start of the season. However with Cole leaving and Reyes leaving a good possibilty we need to get sufficient replacements.
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    Post by L r d Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:25 pm

    yeah maybe punty, drogba is more pyshical gets more assists and goals and looks better imo though, but a bit similar true.
    cesc is true quality will get better and better. gilberto or diaby may be the slight weak link
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:27 pm

    l r d wrote:yeah maybe punty, drogba is more pyshical gets more assists and goals and looks better imo though, but a bit similar true.
    cesc is true quality will get better and better. gilberto or diaby may be the slight weak link

    Drogba - £26m
    Ade - £7m

    Diaby isn't a defensive midfielder, IMO hes a squad player or another player in a 4-5-1.

    Btw diaby is quality, maybe at the agre he is now he would be a liability but he captains the French under 21 squad and is very highly regarded
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:28 pm

    Cesc-Fab wrote:I really thought Reyes would start tonight and Wenger would put an end to the whole debacle. As far as I am concerned the player is as good as gone. Fair enough he says that he likes the club, but we need players that are happy in there life and that can adjust to London life, over the last 2 and half Reyes simply has'nt been able to do that. It is evident that he would like a move back to Spain and if the money is right (as long as we get our money back) I am all for it. If this is the case we need another wide player, the boss ruled out a move for Ribery today but I would not be suprised if the Boss was bluffing. Maybe we could get Wright-Phillips as part of the imminent Cole deal.

    I am optimistic for the start of the season. However with Cole leaving and Reyes leaving a good possibilty we need to get sufficient replacements.

    Noth would generate a ton of money though say £20m for Cole and £15m for Reyes giving Wenger £35m to invest

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