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    Post by L r d Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:14 pm

    Rafa Benitez has vowed his side won't sit back in the first leg of their Champions League showdown with Barcelona.
    The Spaniard insists the Reds are going to the Nou Camp in search of at least one away goal.

    "We are not going there to draw 0-0. We are going there to try to win the game," he said. "We know it can be a big advantage going back to Anfield if we score a goal.

    "Barcelona are a very attacking team and they will be confident they can score at Anfield, so it may be important for us to score away from home.

    "Of course, if it ends 0-0 we will not be saying it's a bad score. This was the score we achieved away to Juventus and Chelsea when we won the competition, but we must not approach the game thinking this is our ambition.

    "We must remember the Benfica game last season when the game was heading to 0-0 but then we made a mistake which changed everything. We must learn from this situation."

    Benitez will be hoping the experience he and his Spanish players have of the Nou Camp will prove significant.

    "It's true we have players and staff who are used to playing there. This experience can be useful for us," he said.

    "We know how they play and we know what the stadium is like, so maybe this can be a good advantage for us.

    "With this kind of game, everyone talks about them as favourites. They are top of the Spanish league, won the title last season and won the Champions League. We know they play good football, but we will go there with belief and confidence. The players are well prepared."
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    Post by L r d Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:18 pm

    Rez wrote:
    Ps you didnt beat Milan, the game ended in a draw and then you won on penalties.

    Sheer pettyness coming into play now. Go and ask a Milan fan if they think they drew that match. I'm not sure even the most delusional milan fan could console themselves with the "don't worry, it's was a draw" notion.

    You don't get trophies for draws.
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    Post by Rez Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:34 pm

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    Rez wrote:
    Ps you didnt beat Milan, the game ended in a draw and then you won on penalties.

    Sheer pettyness coming into play now. Go and ask a Milan fan if they think they drew that match. I'm not sure even the most delusional milan fan could console themselves with the "don't worry, it's was a draw" notion.

    You don't get trophies for draws.

    The actual football match ended in a draw, so the game was decided on penalties. You mentioned the CL final as an example of beating a big team, so I pointed out you didnt beat them. You won the cup, but in the actual match you didnt beat them.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:00 pm

    Only the English don't seem to count wins after penalty shootouts because they are so crap at it.
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    Post by L r d Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:02 pm

    Long time no speak Blut Smile
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    Post by blutgraetsche Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:06 pm

    Hey Obi, hope you're doing fine. I'll be watching the Barcelona - Liverpool match tomorrow, they show it on free TV here, hope that it will be an exciting match. Good luck.
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    Post by L r d Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:15 pm

    Thanks Ale

    Hopefully we'll still be in the tie for the return leg at Anfield. What went wrong at the weekend? I'm not sure what your final result was but I remember glancing on here and seeing that you were 2-0 down at one point, that right?
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    Post by toon h Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:10 pm

    just heard it doesn't look likely Messi is starting tomorrow.

    In that case I would expect Iniesta on the right again with Xavi and Deco in MF in front of Edmilson/Marquez.

    possible line -up:

    ---------------- Valdes

    Oleguer --- Puyol --- Marquez --- Zambrotta

    -----------------Edmilson

    --------- Xavi ----------------Deco

    Iniesta ---------- Saviola ------------ Ezquerro
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    Post by L r d Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:11 pm

    Where's 'Dinho? Enough of the mind games. Razz
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    Post by COTR Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:13 pm

    Obispo wrote:Where's 'Dinho? Enough of the mind games. Razz
    Messi, eto and dinho up front it is then
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    Post by toon h Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:13 pm

    Obispo wrote:Where's 'Dinho? Enough of the mind games. Razz

    Ezquerro is still fit - hardly played this season. He will be the surprise factor.
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    Post by Luis Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:14 pm

    I firmly believe Liverpool will line up as follows:

    .....................Reina.........................

    ........Finnan.........Carra.......Agger........Aurellio......

    ........Gerrard.........Momo........Alonso..........Gonzales

    ..............................Kuyt...........Bellamy..................
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    Post by toon h Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:16 pm

    why don't they play tonight already? I can't wait... Grr
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    Post by Luis Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:16 pm

    Tonights games will be good as well though, really looking forward to the Celtic game!
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    Post by L r d Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:29 pm

    Luis wrote:I firmly believe Liverpool will line up as follows:

    .....................Reina.........................

    ........Finnan.........Carra.......Agger........Aurellio......

    ........Gerrard.........Momo........Alonso..........Gonzales

    ..............................Kuyt...........Bellamy..................

    Have faith in the 3-4-2-1 Luis.

    - - - - - - - - - Reina
    - - Arbeloa - Carragher - Agger
    Finnan - Xabi Alonso - Momo - Aurelio
    - - - Gerrard - - - - - - - Gonzalez
    - - - - - - - - - Crouch

    'Mazin.
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    Post by Luis Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:33 pm

    We absolutely will not play that Obispo, I'm very certain
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    Post by L r d Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:39 pm

    You have no tactical acumen Luis.
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    Post by Luis Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:40 pm

    Obispo wrote:You have no tactical acumen Luis.

    I'm being realistic, I always guess pretty close to what our team will be if not the exact team, no way will any of the new boys be starting, that's for sure
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    Post by COTR Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:45 pm

    Obispo wrote:You have no tactical acumen Luis.
    And you have never seen arbeloa play a full game for us Razz

    wouldn't surprise me if it did happen but with barca's ability to stretch play I think he'll want to double up out wide which is why i favour 4-4-2 and a hard working pair in bellamy and kuyt up front to feed off the scraps
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    Post by L r d Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:48 pm

    Yeah, Arbeloa definitely won't play. It's not like Rafa to throw one straight out of left-field, is it? Razz

    You can double up out wide in my formation anyways CotR. Switches nicely into:

    - - - - - - - - - - - - Reina
    Arbeloa - Carragher - Agger - Aurelio
    Finnan - Xabi Alonso - Momo - Gonzalez
    - - - - - - - - - - - Gerrard
    - - - - - - - - - - Crouchinho


    ... I can't believe Rafa got the job ahead of me Doh
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    Post by COTR Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:53 pm

    Gerrard and crouch as our leading two players is my ultimate nightmare for this game.

    Im imagining endless long balls, endless gerrard shots and crouch getting robbed of the ball everytime about 30 yards out due to a lack of support.

    Save him for anfield obi


    P.s I thought you weren't speculating about the lineup tongue
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    Post by toon h Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:03 pm

    OFFICIAL: no Eto'o, no Edmilson. Hmm.
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    Post by Guest Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:20 pm

    He should have taken eto'o if only to come off the bench for 15Mins


    Starting XI

    ------------------------------VV

    ------Oleguer-------Thuram/Marquez------Puyol------Zambo

    -----------------Xavi------Motta/Marquez--------Deco

    -------Messi---------------Saviola-----------------Dinho


    score 1-1
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    Post by Football Genius Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:30 pm

    Messiah wrote:He should have taken eto'o if only to come off the bench for 15Mins


    Starting XI

    ------------------------------VV

    ------Oleguer-------Thuram/Marquez------Puyol------Zambo

    -----------------Xavi------Motta/Marquez--------Deco

    -------Messi---------------Saviola-----------------Dinho


    score 1-1

    So you think after losing an away goal, you will come to Anfield and get a win ?
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    Post by S4P Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:31 pm

    Crouch will suit the 1st leg more than the 2nd leg imo. I'm sure Rafa will want to play 4-5-1 away, 4-4-2 at home.

    At Camp Nou, you'll be sitting back a lot, soaking up the pressure from Barca (like we did). You'll then need an outlet ball (Drogba for us, Crouch for you).

    At home, you'll need pace up front, so it'll be ideal to play Kuyt and Bellamy.
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    Post by Guest Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:32 pm

    Football Genius wrote:
    Messiah wrote:He should have taken eto'o if only to come off the bench for 15Mins


    Starting XI

    ------------------------------VV

    ------Oleguer-------Thuram/Marquez------Puyol------Zambo

    -----------------Xavi------Motta/Marquez--------Deco

    -------Messi---------------Saviola-----------------Dinho


    score 1-1

    So you think after losing an away goal, you will come to Anfield and get a win ?

    Since i have lost all confidence in us beating any big team it will be

    1-1 at the Camp Nou

    2-2 at Anfield
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    Post by COTR Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:34 pm

    S4P wrote:Crouch will suit the 1st leg more than the 2nd leg imo. I'm sure Rafa will want to play 4-5-1 away, 4-4-2 at home.

    At Camp Nou, you'll be sitting back a lot, soaking up the pressure from Barca (like we did). You'll then need an outlet ball (Drogba for us, Crouch for you).

    At home, you'll need pace up front, so it'll be ideal to play Kuyt and Bellamy.
    im totally opposite to this view. I don't want us to be thumping balls up to a lone front man who is going to spend most of the match isolated and losing ball. if we play bellamy and kuyt their sheer workrate and persistence will mean we are defending from the front and keeping barca pushed back. Crouch will be far more useful at home IMO
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    Post by fcb Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:53 pm

    Pretty drastic squad by Rijkaard. I'm surprised (but don't mind) seeing Edmilson left out. But I would have wanted Etoo on the bench.

    Anyway, looks like either Thuram or Motta will start, with Marquez moving accordingly. And the other spot is between Saviola and Iniesta, because I'm certain Messi will start. But it would then be a big mistake to try to play Messi or Ronaldinho as the 9.
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    Post by L r d Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:37 pm

    S4P wrote:
    At Camp Nou, you'll be sitting back a lot, soaking up the pressure from Barca (like we did). You'll then need an outlet ball (Drogba for us, Crouch for you).

    That's what I thought originally. At the moment though, I get the feeling we may try and copy our opening 20 minutes against you lot in January. Try and destroy them in the opening 20 and then slow the pace whilst still trying to control the game.

    We'll see anyways. I've given up trying to predict anything about this game. Just can't wait.
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    Post by theflyingfrenchman Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:58 pm

    If Barcelona don't put at least four goals past Liverpool, they will have underperformed.

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