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    Post by Batman Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:58 pm

    Who are the players when they played for your club, you thought they were great maybe even World Class. But as soon as they left your club and you watched them play, you thought maybe I overrated him when he played for my club.

    e.g. Reyes at Arsenal better than Ronaldo, now they don’t want him back.

    Or the opposite. When a player was at your club, you thought he wasn’t that good, but when he joined another club and you watched him play, you wish he never left.

    e.g. maybe Cambiasso, left Real on a free.
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    Post by S4P Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:04 pm

    Damien Duff
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    Post by TheCrazy58 Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:18 pm

    We didn't think Reyes was great. He has massive potential but his progress seems to have stalled. I thought he may blossom back in his beloved Spain but it doesn't seem to have happened for him there either so far.
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    Post by Axeslammer Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:23 pm

    Glen Salmon (Nac) + (still wouldn't fit our type of play though)
    Reiziger (defender @ Ajax after having been a midfielder @ Groningen) +
    Romano Sion - (whatever happened to him)
    Mart van Duuren -
    Sander Van Gessel -
    Joost Broerse -
    Danny Buijs -

    Jari Litmanen -
    Dennis Bergkamp (Inter) -
    Dennis Bergkamp (Arsenal) +
    Ronaldinho (@ Barca before Davids arrived) -
    Ronaldinho (@ Barca after Davids arrived) +
    Ronaldo (Real Madrid) -
    Maarten Martens (AZ) +







    Winston Bogarde, oh wait : I never rated him in the first place Laugh
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    Post by Tweesus Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:32 pm

    Marc Overmars
    Nicolas Anelka
    Patrick Vieira

    They're the main three.

    All left us for large fees
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    Post by Machiavel Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:39 pm

    Rafael van der Vaart.
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    Post by A & K Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:32 pm

    @ Tweedle

    Patrick Vieira?? You think he's not a good player???

    Are you loco?
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    Post by Axeslammer Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:34 pm

    Alive and Kicking wrote:@ Tweedle

    Patrick Vieira?? You think he's not a good player???

    Are you loco?

    He was brilliant @ Arsenal, he's been disappointing ever since....so I agree with Tweedle
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    Post by DD Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:37 pm

    Rai Krol wrote:Rafael van der Vaart.
    bitter
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    Post by Machiavel Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:38 pm

    DD wrote:
    Rai Krol wrote:Rafael van der Vaart.
    bitter

    No i am not, i thought he was good, but he has been exposed for the 'phony' he is.

    It was his birthday yesterday, i heard he got his own table at his nearest McDonald's.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:41 pm

    Now I understand why the happy meals are always sold out there....
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    Post by DD Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:41 pm

    How has he been exposed, I wonder? If anything has been made clear is that he's a quality player (a #10 no less), who has the creativity, vision and talent to pull off many things. Can take so-so teams by the scruff of the neck and pull them up the table; and can enrich any bigger team with moments of magic and distribution.

    Have you seen HSV on saturday by any chance?
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    Post by Machiavel Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:43 pm

    DD wrote:How has he been exposed, I wonder? If anything has been made clear is that he's a quality player (a #10 no less), who has the creativity, vision and talent to pull off many things. Can take so-so teams by the scruff of the neck and pull them up the table; and can enrich any bigger team with moments of magic and distribution.

    Have you seen HSV on saturday by any chance?

    If only he takes his milk at night, needs calcium badly.

    I see the HSV highlights some time this afternoon, one game does not make a season ..

    Plus he is a selfish, arrogant individual.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:46 pm

    Maccarone.
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    Post by Axeslammer Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:46 pm

    DD wrote:How has he been exposed, I wonder? If anything has been made clear is that he's a quality player (a #10 no less), who has the creativity, vision and talent to pull off many things. Can take so-so teams by the scruff of the neck and pull them up the table; and can enrich any bigger team with moments of magic and distribution.

    Have you seen HSV on saturday by any chance?

    What he said ^^^^

    VDV confirmed the bankruptcy of Ajax as talent improvers.
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    Post by DD Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:47 pm

    Smile

    This is a side I haven't seen from you Rai. Didn't you want to become a diplomat? Don't let your Godenzonen bias get in your way though.

    He's no more arrogant than plenty you have left at Ajax now.

    Reminds me of Becks in a sense: fancy (borderline arrogant) off pitch image, even though he's a hard worker, model worksman on pitch and for the club...
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    Post by DD Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:48 pm

    He does need lots of calcium though.
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    Post by Axeslammer Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:48 pm

    Rai Krol wrote:
    Plus he is a selfish, arrogant individual.

    You're confusing him for that no-good midget that's still playing the drama queen in the "Echoput" of Amsterdam.
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    Post by Machiavel Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:52 pm

    Axeslammer ! wrote:
    Rai Krol wrote:
    Plus he is a selfish, arrogant individual.

    You're confusing him for that no-good midget that's still playing the drama queen in the "Echoput" of Amsterdam.

    Don't involve Sneijderman into this.

    the man is loyal and a great asset to the club, unlike VDV.
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    Post by DD Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:54 pm

    Just make sure you qatch those HSV highlights tonight, rai?
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    Post by Saintsar Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:56 pm

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    Post by Since 1888 Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:56 pm

    I once though Ali Elkhatabbi was a good player.
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    Post by Machiavel Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:57 pm

    DD wrote:Just make sure you qatch those HSV highlights tonight, rai?

    Don't get me wrong, i will kill to have VDV back at Ajax .. but the manner he left and his attitude that he is the 'messiah' for HSV, sends the wrong message.

    I've always maintained when it came to 'technique' VDV > Sneijder ..
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    Post by The Pröfessör Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:47 pm

    Axeslammer ! wrote:
    Alive and Kicking wrote:@ Tweedle

    Patrick Vieira?? You think he's not a good player???

    Are you loco?

    He was brilliant @ Arsenal, he's been disappointing ever since....so I agree with Tweedle

    Paddy has past his peak long ago but he has only played crap for six months since he left us( he said he was injured at the time , don't know). He's having a good season with Inter and was great for juve in the first half of the season.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:49 pm

    Rai Krol wrote:Rafael van der Vaart.

    haha he played some of the best football of his life for HSV last year.
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    Post by Parks lives Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:51 pm

    Thierry Henry.
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    Post by TM Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:52 pm

    David Beckham. Thought he was shit, and guess what he is. Doh

    Ruud i thought was a decent player, never did i really know his lack of mobility.
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    Post by Rosicky Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:56 pm

    Parks lives wrote:Thierry Henry.

    Laugh

    this is a who you dont think he is good thread, not who you think is a cunt thread.
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    Post by Parks lives Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:58 pm

    Target Man wrote:David Beckham. Thought he was shit, and guess what he is. :doh:

    Ruud i thought was a decent player, never did i really know his lack of mobility.


    Showing your age here.
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    Post by TM Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:59 pm

    Parks lives wrote:
    Target Man wrote:David Beckham. Thought he was shit, and guess what he is. :doh:

    Ruud i thought was a decent player, never did i really know his lack of mobility.


    Showing your age here.

    I honestly didnt watch MU nor Holland on a regular basis, i knew he didnt move but fuck me..

    I dont get the age bit

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