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    Post by TM Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:40 pm

    0-0 Draw? Smile
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    Post by blutgraetsche Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:59 pm

    Target Man wrote:0-0 Draw? Smile

    Both defences are not stable enough for that I'm afraid. Will be an interesting match for sure.
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    Post by Torrente Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:09 pm

    Jaime wrote:But we never win in Germany. Sad

    It doesn't matter. We always get Christmas presents from Kahn in the games in Germany. We'll be OK for a draw.
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    Post by TM Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:19 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:
    Target Man wrote:0-0 Draw? Smile

    Both defences are not stable enough for that I'm afraid. Will be an interesting match for sure.

    We have be reknown for our 0-0's this season due to lack of creativity upfront and the double pivote in the middle.

    as long we go through i dont care how, but i want van bommels legs broken.
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    Post by S4P Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:25 pm

    Guys, stop changing the subject!

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    Post by TM Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:31 pm

    Raul > Sheva.
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    Post by Formerly known as sheva7 Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:34 pm

    Target Man wrote:Raul > Sheva.

    Only in your dreams...
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    Post by Super Progress Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:35 pm

    but yeah nobody gave an answer to whether or not shevas goal count is with qualifiers?
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    Post by Jaime Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:38 pm

    Either way it's less than Raul's tally. Biggrin
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    Post by S4P Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:41 pm

    Sheva has 56, same as Raul. But Sheva has 9 in qualifier's (although most of those qualifiers came for Kiev, whilst Raul has played for Madrid all his playing career).
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    Post by None Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:43 pm

    Sheva was such a joy at Dynamo, used to run at defence from deep and was a fantastic dribbler, can't do it now Sad
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    Post by S4P Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:44 pm

    Did you watch Porto-Chelsea waft?

    He ran at defenders from deep a few times.
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    Post by None Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:54 pm

    Nah, only saw the goal.

    S4P Milan changed his style of play completely, though to be fair, he bacame the best centre-forward in the world by sacrificing certain aspects of his game.
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    Post by TM Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:57 pm

    S4P wrote:Sheva has 56, same as Raul. But Sheva has 9 in qualifier's (although most of those qualifiers came for Kiev, whilst Raul has played for Madrid all his playing career).

    Well dum dum, Real have had to qualify too over the years Doh

    @ Sheva.

    Truth Hurts.
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    Post by None Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:58 pm

    Yeah, because Dynamo Kiev and Real Madrid are on a par Rolling Eyes
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    Post by TM Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:04 pm

    It's nothing of being on Par, S4P was making a point that that Sheva has scored in the QR's because he played for Kiev, but forgot that Raul has a few goals in the QF rounds.
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    Post by Formerly known as sheva7 Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:45 pm

    Target Man wrote:
    S4P wrote:Sheva has 56, same as Raul. But Sheva has 9 in qualifier's (although most of those qualifiers came for Kiev, whilst Raul has played for Madrid all his playing career).

    Well dum dum, Real have had to qualify too over the years Doh

    @ Sheva.

    Truth Hurts.

    You must be kidding.

    Since the first leg of the 2003 UCL QF against United Raul never was the same again. He was World Class, now he is a mediocre player that haven't left Madrid just because he is a homegrown player. His form over the past four seasons has been average.

    Shevchenko had been great since his early days at Dinamo until his move to Chelsea. He was the best striker in the world between 2002 and 2006. Sheva is taking a while to settle in a different country. That's normal. I wonder how Raul would do if he moved to a different league.
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    Post by S4P Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:00 pm

    Since the turn of the year, Sheva has been improving all the time. He still has a long way to go, but like I said, improvements are being made.

    Like I said at the time: New country, new culture, new language, new team/mates is hard enough for any player, despite what they're earning.

    Some adapt quickly, others don't
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    Post by TM Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:58 am

    sheva7 wrote:
    Target Man wrote:
    S4P wrote:Sheva has 56, same as Raul. But Sheva has 9 in qualifier's (although most of those qualifiers came for Kiev, whilst Raul has played for Madrid all his playing career).

    Well dum dum, Real have had to qualify too over the years :doh:

    @ Sheva.

    Truth Hurts.

    You must be kidding.

    Since the first leg of the 2003 UCL QF against United Raul never was the same again. He was World Class, now he is a mediocre player that haven't left Madrid just because he is a homegrown player. His form over the past four seasons has been average.

    Shevchenko had been great since his early days at Dinamo until his move to Chelsea. He was the best striker in the world between 2002 and 2006. Sheva is taking a while to settle in a different country. That's normal. I wonder how Raul would do if he moved to a different league.

    Yeah i was, and i agree Raul hasn't been himself for 3 odd season, but he still scores in the big games for us; Valencia, Barac, Bayern, Patletico etc etc. He needs to be more consistent yes, but on his day he is still one of the best finishers in the world with that said he is not a CF like Sheva but a SS or he can play in the hole behind the strikers and he thrives of making late runs into the box or well timed runs behind defences.
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    Post by Rez Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:01 am

    Qualifiers dont count, loook how many goals Gerrard scored against cannon fodder. I dont rate Raul anymore, but he always seems to score in the CL. He has played alot of games, but the amount of goals he has scored for a support striker is awesome.

    However in terms of goals to games ratio RVN is the ultimate CL striker
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:30 pm

    Rez wrote:

    However in terms of goals to games ratio against Sparta Prague and Basle RVN is the ultimate CL striker

    ok
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    Post by L r d Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:12 pm

    Stefan Kuntz wrote:
    Rez wrote:

    However in terms of goals to games ratio against Sparta Prague and Basle RVN is the ultimate CL striker

    ok

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    Post by Rez Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:50 am

    Stefan Kuntz wrote:
    Rez wrote:

    However in terms of goals to games ratio against Bayern Munich, Lyon, Juventus, Real Madrid, Deportivo RVN is the ultimate CL striker

    :k:

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