Inter's Scudetto

If you were an Inter fan would you happy with this Scudetto?

I am not denying they have been awesome (at times unstoppable), but as a fan would you celebrate this Scudetto or view it as a product of Calciopoli?

Serie A is nuts this year!

I hope we will see a "normal " Serie A next year!

well if they won it next year with milan and juve in the race then it would more worthy i think.

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:If you were an Inter fan would you happy with this Scudetto?

I am not denying they have been awesome (at times unstoppable), but as a fan would you celebrate this Scudetto or view it as a product of Calciopoli?

It's not Inter's fault many clubs had been cheating in previous seasons. In fact, I think Inter also should have the scudetto from '02-'03. There are some people who believe they should also have the one from '97-'98.

I've always believed Juventus had been cheating the last 10 years, much like Real Madrid throughout their history. True story!

Puro wrote:

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:If you were an Inter fan would you happy with this Scudetto?

I am not denying they have been awesome (at times unstoppable), but as a fan would you celebrate this Scudetto or view it as a product of Calciopoli?

It's not Inter's fault many clubs had been cheating in previous seasons. In fact, I think Inter also should have the scudetto from '02-'03. There are some people who believe they should also have the one from '97-'98.

I've always believed Juventus had been cheating the last 10 years, much like Real Madrid throughout their history. True story!

All of Italy believed that. There have been books written on the topic.

For me personally, if I were an Inter fan ( ), after I'd get over my condition, I would really want my team to win next year.

Puro wrote:

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:If you were an Inter fan would you happy with this Scudetto?

I am not denying they have been awesome (at times unstoppable), but as a fan would you celebrate this Scudetto or view it as a product of Calciopoli?

It's not Inter's fault many clubs had been cheating in previous seasons. In fact, I think Inter also should have the scudetto from '02-'03. There are some people who believe they should also have the one from '97-'98.

I've always believed Juventus had been cheating the last 10 years, much like Real Madrid throughout their history. True story!

jees
in inters great period in 50's and 60's they had a sportsdirector Italo Allodi who was very succesfull and had great "influence" in the same way that moggi had. and moggis mentor just happened to be Italo.inter tried in 90's and a couple of years ago to get moggi.allthough Calciopoli has made them look very clean people also have to see the bigger picture.

Puro wrote:

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:If you were an Inter fan would you happy with this Scudetto?

I am not denying they have been awesome (at times unstoppable), but as a fan would you celebrate this Scudetto or view it as a product of Calciopoli?

It's not Inter's fault many clubs had been cheating in previous seasons. In fact, I think Inter also should have the scudetto from '02-'03. There are some people who believe they should also have the one from '97-'98.

I've always believed Juventus had been cheating the last 10 years, much like Real Madrid throughout their history. True story!

Yep, they deserve it and rightly they should celebrate it.

supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:

Puro wrote:

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:If you were an Inter fan would you happy with this Scudetto?

I am not denying they have been awesome (at times unstoppable), but as a fan would you celebrate this Scudetto or view it as a product of Calciopoli?

It's not Inter's fault many clubs had been cheating in previous seasons. In fact, I think Inter also should have the scudetto from '02-'03. There are some people who believe they should also have the one from '97-'98.

I've always believed Juventus had been cheating the last 10 years, much like Real Madrid throughout their history. True story!

jees
in inters great period in 50's and 60's they had a sportsdirector Italo Allodi who was very succesfull and had great "influence" in the same way that moggi had. and moggis mentor just happened to be Italo.inter tried in 90's and a couple of years ago to get moggi.allthough Calciopoli has made them look very clean people also have to see the bigger picture.

Good breadth of knowledge there man!

Indeed, Allodi was a crook of the highest order. Glanville, who I don't particularly like as a writer, has written a great deal about Allodi's iniquity.

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:

Puro wrote:

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:If you were an Inter fan would you happy with this Scudetto?

I am not denying they have been awesome (at times unstoppable), but as a fan would you celebrate this Scudetto or view it as a product of Calciopoli?

It's not Inter's fault many clubs had been cheating in previous seasons. In fact, I think Inter also should have the scudetto from '02-'03. There are some people who believe they should also have the one from '97-'98.

I've always believed Juventus had been cheating the last 10 years, much like Real Madrid throughout their history. True story!

jees
in inters great period in 50's and 60's they had a sportsdirector Italo Allodi who was very succesfull and had great "influence" in the same way that moggi had. and moggis mentor just happened to be Italo.inter tried in 90's and a couple of years ago to get moggi.allthough Calciopoli has made them look very clean people also have to see the bigger picture.

Good breadth of knowledge there man!

Indeed, Allodi was a crook of the highest order. Glanville, who I don't particularly like as a writer, has written a great deal about Allodi's iniquity.

the only difference between moggi and Italo is that moggi got exposed. we have a thing about things being black and white. roma is the team that has prob suffered the most of the hand from those in north and the often talk about it but they too had moggi work for them twice!

Why shouldn't Inter fans celebrate it??????
I dont really see a valid point for such a question.

I think its very harsh to put down Inter just cos if th Calciopoli events. Inter have been incredible this season and deserve their title and a lot of respect for being the best team in Europe this season.

TITO wrote:Why shouldn't Inter fans celebrate it??????
I dont really see a valid point for such a question.

I should have worded it a bit differently. Can they celebrate it without feeling a tinge of regret that the championship was not on an even keel?

I guess Inter fans--in light of Moggipoli--could say the same about the past championships also.

Notwithstanding all of that, if Milan were to win the title in the circumstances Inter are going to win it in, I would not be very happy. I would want to see Juve back and then go for it...

I think fans should be happy about their team this year, even though there shouldn't have been eliminated from the C.L, because they were able to rest the players they wanted whereas Valencia wasn't in such position to do that. The serie A has been weakened because of Juventus' relegation but the other big guns are still there, and it's not Inter's problem if they have been underachieving.

Look at Roma, they are having a superb season, but are still 18 points behind. To be undefeated in 28 games in such big league remains great. They will have to confirm next year and in two years time though and win the Scudetto. On the contrary of Milan and Juventus, Inter won't have to change much of their squad and this might be the competitive edge they'll have in the soon future.

Nope, it would be nothing short of shameful had they not "won" it, in my book, it's their second non-scudetto in a row.

I like Inter and i am happy they are going to win the Scudetto, but this season has been a bit of an anticlimax.

At the start of the season most people thought Inter would win the league. its only March and Inter have a 18 pts lead over Roma, game over.

Roma just don't have the squad to complete with Inter.

Everyone likes to win things, but without competion it can be boring.

Waftradamus wrote:Nope, it would be nothing short of shameful had they not "won" it, in my book, it's their second non-scudetto in a row.

Hmmm... another jealous Milan fan

Its funny how things change. In the beginning of the season, most Milan fans were confident that they would easily turn the 8 point deduction, and Inter will choke. 10 games into the season, after Inter made a record breaking start, suddenly there were a zillion excuses. The season was suddenly pointless, coz of the "psychological impact of the deductions", "constrained transfer campaign", etc etc

Hey, if Serie A is so weak that its meaningless, why are Milan 34 points behind Inter??

You know what has really happened - a role reversal. The tide has turned again. Inter are a few notches better than Milan as a team. And Milan fans are talking like Inter fans used to in the 90s, blaming everything else instead of realising the fact that you just screwed up. Plain and simple.

To answer your question, yes, of course we will celebrate this scudetto. And this is probably the first scudetto in 10-15 years which is NOT a product of calciopoli.

You are a reasonable guy, Forza, so let me ask you. If Milan had played like Inter did this season, turned the 8 point penalty and been 18 points ahead at the top of the table breaking almost all Serie A records on the way, would you have celebrated the scudetto? I think we all know the answer to that.

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:If you were an Inter fan would you happy with this Scudetto?

I am not denying they have been awesome (at times unstoppable), but as a fan would you celebrate this Scudetto or view it as a product of Calciopoli?

1997-98 was the most blatant form of cheating I have ever seen in my life. That Inter team was miles better than Juve. Ridiculous penalties being given at crucial junctures, infact that one incident in the Inter-Juve game said it all... Ronaldo is hacked down in the penalty area, no penalty, and DP dives in the counter attack, penalty. Tho I admit that in some seasons Juve would have won even without the cheating (like last season), in 97-98 they required many "benefits of doubt" by the refrees to win.

I look at our scudetto last season as a compensation of the couple of scudetto's we were cheated out of, most noteably the 97-98. Anyways, the cheating has been proven now, its history. Hopefully we will see many clean and fair championships for sometime now.

Puro wrote:

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:If you were an Inter fan would you happy with this Scudetto?

I am not denying they have been awesome (at times unstoppable), but as a fan would you celebrate this Scudetto or view it as a product of Calciopoli?

It's not Inter's fault many clubs had been cheating in previous seasons. In fact, I think Inter also should have the scudetto from '02-'03. There are some people who believe they should also have the one from '97-'98.

I've always believed Juventus had been cheating the last 10 years, much like Real Madrid throughout their history. True story!

In my book, the 97-98 scudetto won by Juve was the biggest of all non-scudetto's, and thats what I call shameful.

Losing is not shameful, cheating is. I guess we just have different definations for the word.

So howz life in Serie B?

Waftradamus wrote:Nope, it would be nothing short of shameful had they not "won" it, in my book, it's their second non-scudetto in a row.

Tiresome. No "cheating" has been proven whatsoever, that is a laughable thing to say. This is the same Juve which got to 3 CL finals in a row, guess they "cheated" their way to those also.

I am not saying that they were a bad team, I am saying that they cheated.

And they were not as good as Inter that season.

Just like most people will acknowledge that Juve would have won the scudetto last season, even if Moggi had not "arranged" the refrees.

Anyways, its all speculation of the past... I am bored of this topic too

Waftradamus wrote:Tiresome. No "cheating" has been proven whatsoever, that is a laughable thing to say. This is the same Juve which got to 3 CL finals in a row, guess they "cheated" their way to those also.

bluenine wrote:Hmmm... another jealous Milan fan

Its funny how things change. In the beginning of the season, most Milan fans were confident that they would easily turn the 8 point deduction, and Inter will choke. 10 games into the season, after Inter made a record breaking start, suddenly there were a zillion excuses. The season was suddenly pointless, coz of the "psychological impact of the deductions", "constrained transfer campaign", etc etc

Hey, if Serie A is so weak that its meaningless, why are Milan 34 points behind Inter??

You know what has really happened - a role reversal. The tide has turned again. Inter are a few notches better than Milan as a team. And Milan fans are talking like Inter fans used to in the 90s, blaming everything else instead of realising the fact that you just screwed up. Plain and simple.

To answer your question, yes, of course we will celebrate this scudetto. And this is probably the first scudetto in 10-15 years which is NOT a product of calciopoli.

You are a reasonable guy, Forza, so let me ask you. If Milan had played like Inter did this season, turned the 8 point penalty and been 18 points ahead at the top of the table breaking almost all Serie A records on the way, would you have celebrated the scudetto? I think we all know the answer to that.

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:If you were an Inter fan would you happy with this Scudetto?

I am not denying they have been awesome (at times unstoppable), but as a fan would you celebrate this Scudetto or view it as a product of Calciopoli?

No. Because there would have been no Juventus. That's the truth--I wouldn't have.

I am 100% with you on the fact that Inter have been far and away the best team in Italy this season. But you must admit that not a small portion of that is due to the Calciopoli scandal. Buying Ibra has galvanized your team, and with the points deduction it was there for the taking.

If Juve would have been relegated based on what they garnered on the field, I would have undoubtedly celebrated. But they were relegated after paper wars.

Is that to say that were Juve in Serie A and Calciopli had not happened Inter would not win the Scudetto? Maybe. And it is precisely that uncertaintly that would wreck my feel-good factor about this Scudetto.

I am surprised, perhaps we think very differently...

So in the same vein, you think it was wrong of Juventus to celebrate the 1980-81 scudetto coz Milan were relegated in similar fashion??

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

bluenine wrote:Hmmm... another jealous Milan fan

Its funny how things change. In the beginning of the season, most Milan fans were confident that they would easily turn the 8 point deduction, and Inter will choke. 10 games into the season, after Inter made a record breaking start, suddenly there were a zillion excuses. The season was suddenly pointless, coz of the "psychological impact of the deductions", "constrained transfer campaign", etc etc

Hey, if Serie A is so weak that its meaningless, why are Milan 34 points behind Inter??

You know what has really happened - a role reversal. The tide has turned again. Inter are a few notches better than Milan as a team. And Milan fans are talking like Inter fans used to in the 90s, blaming everything else instead of realising the fact that you just screwed up. Plain and simple.

To answer your question, yes, of course we will celebrate this scudetto. And this is probably the first scudetto in 10-15 years which is NOT a product of calciopoli.

You are a reasonable guy, Forza, so let me ask you. If Milan had played like Inter did this season, turned the 8 point penalty and been 18 points ahead at the top of the table breaking almost all Serie A records on the way, would you have celebrated the scudetto? I think we all know the answer to that.

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:If you were an Inter fan would you happy with this Scudetto?

I am not denying they have been awesome (at times unstoppable), but as a fan would you celebrate this Scudetto or view it as a product of Calciopoli?

No. Because there would have been no Juventus. That's the truth--I wouldn't have.

I am 100% with you on the fact that Inter have been far and away the best team in Italy this season. But you must admit that not a small portion of that is due to the Calciopoli scandal. Buying Ibra has galvanized your team, and with the points deduction it was there for the taking.

If Juve would have been relegated based on what they garnered on the field, I would have undoubtedly celebrated. But they were relegated after paper wars.

Is that to say that were Juve in Serie A and Calciopli had not happened Inter would not win the Scudetto? Maybe. And it is precisely that uncertaintly that would wreck my feel-good factor about this Scudetto.

Personally I wouldn't as as proud as if there hd been no teams with points deductions and if Juve had been in the league - it doesn't make it as special

Tweedle wrote:Personally I wouldn't as as proud as if there hd been no teams with points deductions and if Juve had been in the league - it doesn't make it as special

I agree with this. If Inter won it in 1998 or 2002 like they deserved to, then it wouldve been better for them.

I hear you, man. 1997-98 Inter were cheated out of the scudetto, Simoni's team played some great football

Very few Italians believed it was a fair championship after that season. What goes around always comes around.

We will all be happy to see Juve back next season as they are a great club, but every scudetto counts as much as any other. I cannot see why this season should be considered any different. Most scudetti are won because some big teams underperform, nothing new there. Inter have been the best this season in Serie A, and deserve all the respect.

bluenine wrote:1997-98 was the most blatant form of cheating I have ever seen in my life. That Inter team was miles better than Juve. Ridiculous penalties being given at crucial junctures, infact that one incident in the Inter-Juve game said it all... Ronaldo is hacked down in the penalty area, no penalty, and DP dives in the counter attack, penalty. Tho I admit that in some seasons Juve would have won even without the cheating (like last season), in 97-98 they required many "benefits of doubt" by the refrees to win.

I look at our scudetto last season as a compensation of the couple of scudetto's we were cheated out of, most noteably the 97-98. Anyways, the cheating has been proven now, its history. Hopefully we will see many clean and fair championships for sometime now.

Puro wrote:

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:If you were an Inter fan would you happy with this Scudetto?

I am not denying they have been awesome (at times unstoppable), but as a fan would you celebrate this Scudetto or view it as a product of Calciopoli?

It's not Inter's fault many clubs had been cheating in previous seasons. In fact, I think Inter also should have the scudetto from '02-'03. There are some people who believe they should also have the one from '97-'98.

I've always believed Juventus had been cheating the last 10 years, much like Real Madrid throughout their history. True story!

bluenine wrote:1997-98 was the most blatant form of cheating I have ever seen in my life. That Inter team was miles better than Juve. Ridiculous penalties being given at crucial junctures, infact that one incident in the Inter-Juve game said it all... Ronaldo is hacked down in the penalty area, no penalty, and DP dives in the counter attack, penalty. Tho I admit that in some seasons Juve would have won even without the cheating (like last season), in 97-98 they required many "benefits of doubt" by the refrees to win.

I look at our scudetto last season as a compensation of the couple of scudetto's we were cheated out of, most noteably the 97-98. Anyways, the cheating has been proven now, its history. Hopefully we will see many clean and fair championships for sometime now.

Puro wrote:

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:If you were an Inter fan would you happy with this Scudetto?

I am not denying they have been awesome (at times unstoppable), but as a fan would you celebrate this Scudetto or view it as a product of Calciopoli?

It's not Inter's fault many clubs had been cheating in previous seasons. In fact, I think Inter also should have the scudetto from '02-'03. There are some people who believe they should also have the one from '97-'98.

I've always believed Juventus had been cheating the last 10 years, much like Real Madrid throughout their history. True story!

Gigliati wrote:I hear you, man. 1997-98 Inter were cheated out of the scudetto, Simoni's team played some great football

Very few Italians believed it was a fair championship after that season. What goes around always comes around.

Inter have been the best this season in Serie A, and deserve all the respect.

Puro wrote:I've always believed Juventus had been cheating the last 10 years, much like Real Madrid throughout their history. True story!

A sensible Milan fan

Kaká wrote:

Gigliati wrote:I hear you, man. 1997-98 Inter were cheated out of the scudetto, Simoni's team played some great football

Very few Italians believed it was a fair championship after that season. What goes around always comes around.

Inter have been the best this season in Serie A, and deserve all the respect.

Puro wrote:I've always believed Juventus had been cheating the last 10 years, much like Real Madrid throughout their history. True story!

bluenine wrote:A sensible Milan fan