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    Post by Parks lives Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:41 pm

    15 goals Tweeds (12 in the league).
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    Post by Forza It Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:41 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    Francesco Totti wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:Too true, Rooney is miles beter than Mancini ok

    Doh

    Embarrassing.

    Want to back it up with fact?

    Rooney is playing for the team top of his league, in which he's scored 11 goals and got 13 assists. The 2nd highest and highest statistic respectively....

    So... scratch

    What has Rooney done for England or in the Champions League in the last 2 seasons?

    If C. Ronaldo was not at Man U, Rooney would either be suspended for every other game, or rather muted.
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    Post by Tweesus Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:42 pm

    Parks lives wrote:15 goals Tweeds (12 in the league).

    12 then...

    I was going purely on the leagu statistic
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    Post by Tweesus Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:43 pm

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    Francesco Totti wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:Too true, Rooney is miles beter than Mancini ok

    Doh

    Embarrassing.

    Want to back it up with fact?

    Rooney is playing for the team top of his league, in which he's scored 11 goals and got 13 assists. The 2nd highest and highest statistic respectively....

    So... scratch

    What has Rooney done for England or in the Champions League in the last 2 seasons?

    If C. Ronaldo was not at Man U, Rooney would either be suspended for every other game, or rather muted.

    Macini has barely ever played for Brazil! thats how much they rate him Laugh

    And wow! he scored in the last 16... 'mazin - that one goal surely beats everything Rooney has ever done EVER, period. Doh
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    Post by Forza It Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:45 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    Francesco Totti wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:Too true, Rooney is miles beter than Mancini ok

    Doh

    Embarrassing.

    Want to back it up with fact?

    Rooney is playing for the team top of his league, in which he's scored 11 goals and got 13 assists. The 2nd highest and highest statistic respectively....

    So... scratch

    What has Rooney done for England or in the Champions League in the last 2 seasons?

    If C. Ronaldo was not at Man U, Rooney would either be suspended for every other game, or rather muted.

    Macini has barely ever played for Brazil! thats how much they rate him Laugh

    And wow! he scored in the last 16... 'mazin - that one goal surely beats everything Rooney has ever done EVER, period. Doh

    Do you think the level of competition to get into the English team even compares to the competition to get into the Brazilian team?

    It has taken England years to produce a player that can show some flashes of brilliance and is skilled enough to drill through players.

    Brazil produces that everyday.


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    Post by Tweesus Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:46 pm

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    Francesco Totti wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:Too true, Rooney is miles beter than Mancini ok

    Doh

    Embarrassing.

    Want to back it up with fact?

    Rooney is playing for the team top of his league, in which he's scored 11 goals and got 13 assists. The 2nd highest and highest statistic respectively....

    So... scratch

    What has Rooney done for England or in the Champions League in the last 2 seasons?

    If C. Ronaldo was not at Man U, Rooney would either be suspended for every other game, or rather muted.

    Macini has barely ever played for Brazil! thats how much they rate him Laugh

    And wow! he scored in the last 16... 'mazin - that one goal surely beats everything Rooney has ever done EVER, period. Doh

    Do you think the level of competition to get into the English team even compares to the competition to get into the Brazilian team?

    Clearly not, but Baptista has been capped by Brazil over twenty times and he's a lump of crap.
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    Post by Parks lives Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:48 pm

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

    If C. Ronaldo was not at Man U, Rooney would either be suspended for every other game, or rather muted.

    Really?

    There's always been a theory between some United fans that they neither perform at the same time. Normally one has a great game and the other is quiet. It's only the FA cup final vs Arsenal that they were both incredible.
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    Post by Tweesus Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:52 pm

    Parks lives wrote:
    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

    If C. Ronaldo was not at Man U, Rooney would either be suspended for every other game, or rather muted.

    Really?

    There's always been a theory between some United fans that they neither perform at the same time. Normally one has a great game and the other is quiet. It's only the FA cup final vs Arsenal that they were both incredible.

    Laugh what a day that was Wink
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:44 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    Francesco Totti wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:Too true, Rooney is miles beter than Mancini ok

    Doh

    Embarrassing.

    Want to back it up with fact?

    Rooney is playing for the team top of his league, in which he's scored 11 goals and got 13 assists. The 2nd highest and highest statistic respectively....

    So... scratch

    What has Rooney done for England or in the Champions League in the last 2 seasons?

    If C. Ronaldo was not at Man U, Rooney would either be suspended for every other game, or rather muted.

    Macini has barely ever played for Brazil! thats how much they rate him Laugh

    And wow! he scored in the last 16... 'mazin - that one goal surely beats everything Rooney has ever done EVER, period. Doh

    ...well in a way it does.

    Mancini scores a goal people will never forget in the KO stages away to a team who haven't lost a home CL game in years.

    Rooney hasn't scored in KO phases (to be fair he didn't even get there last year).

    Seriously now - do you honestly believe Rooney to be better than Mancini ?
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    Post by Tweesus Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:21 pm

    @ stefan

    One goal in the latter stages of a competition does not make one player better than another - its a ridiculius arguement - sometimes a player can score a tap in...

    Sure it was a great goal on the eyes, terribly defended though - he was watching Mancini's legs rather than the ball and thats schoolboy

    Re the Rooney v Mancini comparison - its not really a good comparison as they play different positions, what I will say though is that Mancini isn't better than Rooney, which is what you're implying and with no real justification.

    I've said before, the way people go on about Roma you'd think they were the world's best team - Ive heard people say that tonetto is one of the world's best left backs, Chivu and mexes are better than Rio and Heinze, Rossi is world class and better than Scholes, Totti is better than any Utd players, Mancini is better than Rooney, Perotta is as good as Scholes,Pizarro is better than Carrick... the way people go on you'd be surprised if utd even get a sniff in the game; fact is, utd have been i sensational form this season, maybe not in the CL but slow burning is the best way to do it. And its undeniable that utd have some truly top class players and Rooney is certainly one of them. By his stanards he's had a poor season yet he has been a vital part of Utds success this season in terms of both goals and assists
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    Post by bluenine Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:42 pm

    No, some of that is bullshit, no doubt as a response to you slaggin Roma players... Wink

    But 3 of those things you mention below are true:
    1. Chivu edges Rio IMO, tough call though as both are "world class"
    2. Totti is better than any ManU player, without doubt
    3. Pizarro >> Carrick, very different players tho.

    Tweedle wrote:I've said before, the way people go on about Roma you'd think they were the world's best team - Ive heard people say that tonetto is one of the world's best left backs, Chivu and mexes are better than Rio and Heinze, Rossi is world class and better than Scholes, Totti is better than any Utd players, Mancini is better than Rooney, Perotta is as good as Scholes,Pizarro is better than Carrick...
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    Post by Machiavel Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:45 pm

    2. Totti is better than any ManU player, without doubt

    I'm glad we got that sorted, how much will he leave Roma for SAF must try and sign him .. maybe he can sell Ronaldo to FC Barcelona etc
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    Post by Forza It Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:49 pm

    bluenine wrote:No, some of that is bullshit, no doubt as a response to you slaggin Roma players... Wink

    But 3 of those things you mention below are true:
    1. Chivu edges Rio IMO, tough call though as both are "world class"
    2. Totti is better than any ManU player, without doubt
    3. Pizarro >> Carrick, very different players tho.

    Tweedle wrote:I've said before, the way people go on about Roma you'd think they were the world's best team - Ive heard people say that tonetto is one of the world's best left backs, Chivu and mexes are better than Rio and Heinze, Rossi is world class and better than Scholes, Totti is better than any Utd players, Mancini is better than Rooney, Perotta is as good as Scholes,Pizarro is better than Carrick...

    Carrick is atrocious.

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    Post by Machiavel Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:51 pm

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    bluenine wrote:No, some of that is bullshit, no doubt as a response to you slaggin Roma players... Wink

    But 3 of those things you mention below are true:
    1. Chivu edges Rio IMO, tough call though as both are "world class"
    2. Totti is better than any ManU player, without doubt
    3. Pizarro >> Carrick, very different players tho.

    Tweedle wrote:I've said before, the way people go on about Roma you'd think they were the world's best team - Ive heard people say that tonetto is one of the world's best left backs, Chivu and mexes are better than Rio and Heinze, Rossi is world class and better than Scholes, Totti is better than any Utd players, Mancini is better than Rooney, Perotta is as good as Scholes,Pizarro is better than Carrick...

    Carrick is atrocious.

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    Watch the Premiership before you make a fool out of yourself .. Doh

    I forgot you still believe Ronaldo constantly dives when he has not this season
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    Post by bluenine Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:52 pm

    Laugh

    I remember Moratti had once publically stated that he would break all transfer fee and salary records if Totti even considered leaving Roma. To which Berlusconi and Moggi had responded that they will pay even more. If Totti wanted to move, he could ve got a blank cheque. Now its too late anyways.

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    2. Totti is better than any ManU player, without doubt

    I'm glad we got that sorted, how much will he leave Roma for SAF must try and sign him .. maybe he can sell Ronaldo to FC Barcelona etc
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    Post by Machiavel Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:53 pm

    bluenine wrote:Laugh

    I remember Moratti had once publically stated that he would break all transfer fee and salary records if Totti even considered leaving Roma. To which Berlusconi and Moggi had responded that they will pay even more. If Totti wanted to move, he could ve got a blank cheque. Now its too late anyways.

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    2. Totti is better than any ManU player, without doubt

    I'm glad we got that sorted, how much will he leave Roma for SAF must try and sign him .. maybe he can sell Ronaldo to FC Barcelona etc

    A shame, he would have done great in English football
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    Post by Forza It Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:55 pm

    Rai Krol wrote:
    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    bluenine wrote:No, some of that is bullshit, no doubt as a response to you slaggin Roma players... Wink

    But 3 of those things you mention below are true:
    1. Chivu edges Rio IMO, tough call though as both are "world class"
    2. Totti is better than any ManU player, without doubt
    3. Pizarro >> Carrick, very different players tho.

    Tweedle wrote:I've said before, the way people go on about Roma you'd think they were the world's best team - Ive heard people say that tonetto is one of the world's best left backs, Chivu and mexes are better than Rio and Heinze, Rossi is world class and better than Scholes, Totti is better than any Utd players, Mancini is better than Rooney, Perotta is as good as Scholes,Pizarro is better than Carrick...



    Carrick is atrocious.

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    Watch the Premiership before you make a fool out of yourself .. Doh

    I forgot you still believe Ronaldo constantly dives when he has not this season

    Mate, I am trying to get you going.

    But Carrick is sort of slow and not the best vision, and Ronaldo dives. But I must admit I did not see the Blackburn game, where apparently he made a strong case for sainthood.
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    Post by Machiavel Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:58 pm

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    Rai Krol wrote:
    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    bluenine wrote:No, some of that is bullshit, no doubt as a response to you slaggin Roma players... Wink

    But 3 of those things you mention below are true:
    1. Chivu edges Rio IMO, tough call though as both are "world class"
    2. Totti is better than any ManU player, without doubt
    3. Pizarro >> Carrick, very different players tho.

    Tweedle wrote:I've said before, the way people go on about Roma you'd think they were the world's best team - Ive heard people say that tonetto is one of the world's best left backs, Chivu and mexes are better than Rio and Heinze, Rossi is world class and better than Scholes, Totti is better than any Utd players, Mancini is better than Rooney, Perotta is as good as Scholes,Pizarro is better than Carrick...



    Carrick is atrocious.

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    Watch the Premiership before you make a fool out of yourself .. Doh

    I forgot you still believe Ronaldo constantly dives when he has not this season

    Mate, I am trying to get you going.

    Sorry

    Only a idiot would have said Carrick has been bad for Manchester United.

    If you have seen Ronaldo 'week in and week out' you know that he is no more a diver ..

    If he did pull a stunt, he would be crucified by the English media .. he does not want that.

    Gilardino is a REAL diver ok
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    Post by Forza It Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:00 am

    Rai Krol wrote:
    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    Rai Krol wrote:
    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    bluenine wrote:No, some of that is bullshit, no doubt as a response to you slaggin Roma players... Wink

    But 3 of those things you mention below are true:
    1. Chivu edges Rio IMO, tough call though as both are "world class"
    2. Totti is better than any ManU player, without doubt
    3. Pizarro >> Carrick, very different players tho.

    Tweedle wrote:I've said before, the way people go on about Roma you'd think they were the world's best team - Ive heard people say that tonetto is one of the world's best left backs, Chivu and mexes are better than Rio and Heinze, Rossi is world class and better than Scholes, Totti is better than any Utd players, Mancini is better than Rooney, Perotta is as good as Scholes,Pizarro is better than Carrick...



    Carrick is atrocious.

    Loving point 2 bluenine. Very Happy

    Watch the Premiership before you make a fool out of yourself .. Doh

    I forgot you still believe Ronaldo constantly dives when he has not this season

    Mate, I am trying to get you going.

    Sorry

    Only a idiot would have said Carrick has been bad for Manchester United.

    If you have seen Ronaldo 'week in and week out' you know that he is no more a diver ..

    If he did pull a stunt, he would be crucified by the English media .. he does not want that.

    Gilardino is a REAL diver ok

    I cannot argue with that. So is Inzaghi.
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    Post by bluenine Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:05 am

    Milan are lining up their olympic diving team for the bayern game Wink

    Inzaghi + Gila Whistle

    While Carrick has been good, comparing him with Pizzaro does noty make sense.... like to like, you can compare Carrick with De Rossi, and IMO De Rossi comes out the better player there.
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:06 am

    This season Ronaldo has been the world's best player for me so I'm disagreeing with point 2
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    Post by bluenine Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:08 am

    If Ronaldo plays like that for 8 consecutive seasons, then he will be where Totti is now.

    This season, he will probably win his FIFTH Italian footballer of the year award!!! Last year he just lost out to Italian captain, WPOTY, & Ballan D'Or winner Cannavaro

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    Post by Tweesus Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:09 am

    bluenine wrote:If Ronaldo plays like that for 8 consecutive seasons, then he will be where Totti is now.

    Tweedle wrote:This season Ronaldo has been the world's best player for me so I'm disagreeing with point 2

    Laugh

    How many WPOTY awards has Totti got again?
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    Post by bluenine Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:12 am

    This season, Totti will probably win his FIFTH Italian footballer of the year award!!! Last year he just lost out to Italian captain, WPOTY, & Ballan D'Or winner Cannavaro...

    WPOTY is probably out of reach for a Roma player... If Totti was playing for Milan/Juve, he would have won a few IMO...

    What has C Ronaldo won??

    Tweedle wrote:
    bluenine wrote:If Ronaldo plays like that for 8 consecutive seasons, then he will be where Totti is now.

    Tweedle wrote:This season Ronaldo has been the world's best player for me so I'm disagreeing with point 2

    Laugh

    How many WPOTY awards has Totti got again?
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:14 am

    Not sure, you'd have to ask a Utd fan - has a good chance of WPOTY this season though IMO

    bluenine wrote:This season, Totti will probably win his FIFTH Italian footballer of the year award!!! Last year he just lost out to Italian captain, WPOTY, & Ballan D'Or winner Cannavaro...

    WPOTY is probably out of reach for a Roma player... If Totti was playing for Milan/Juve, he would have won a few IMO...

    What has C Ronaldo won??

    Tweedle wrote:
    bluenine wrote:If Ronaldo plays like that for 8 consecutive seasons, then he will be where Totti is now.

    Tweedle wrote:This season Ronaldo has been the world's best player for me so I'm disagreeing with point 2

    Laugh

    How many WPOTY awards has Totti got again?
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    Post by Super Progress Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:14 am

    Tweedle wrote:This season Ronaldo has been the world's best player for me so I'm disagreeing with point 2
    well he hasnt done enough imo in cl or against the big teams in the prem to be called the best player in the world. he will have a real chance to show his worth against roma.
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:17 am

    Yp, we'll see on Thursday ok See you all tomorrow Ale
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:17 am

    *wednesday
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    Post by Axeslammer Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:26 am

    bluenine wrote:

    What has C Ronaldo won??


    World Diver of the Year ok

    .....for the fourth year running (or should I say "diving") Laugh
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    Post by lampiao007 Tue Apr 03, 2007 3:20 am

    I reckon the only reason Totti is always winning the acolades in Italy is because there are no other Italian players that are any good aniwhay. In land of blind people, the one with one eye is king......


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