CL winner on current form!

1. Valencia
2. Pool / Bayern
3. Roma
4. Manu
5. Chelsea
6. MIlan
7. psv

Im gasping for breath and rubbing my eyes in disbelief.

Have I just seen you compile a list which doesnt have Bayern Munich at the top of it?

yeahhh:lol:

valencia impressed me much yesterday, solid defence, always dangerous, well organizized

Surely Roma would be 4th, united 5th, Chelsea 6th etc. You cant be the least favourate and ranked 7th out of 8 teams.

So there's only 7 teams left?

There isn't a true dominant side this year like Barcelona last year who everyone near enough expected to win the competition anyway.

Anyone bar PSV has a very good shout of winning it. I am putting no money on it for sure!!!

what is current form? current general form or current CL form?

With Inter and Barca out its wide open, though chelsea probably have the strongest squad of teh teams left

On current form every team can go out except for liverpool, and roma look to be in a good position

so:
1. Liverpool
2. Roma
3.
4.
5.
6.
7. Manu
8. PSV

You really think Roma are in that good a position?

I'd say a good position would have been a 1-0 home win or a 3-1 home win: 2-1 puts them in a difficult position.

Utd have the potential to play a hell of a lot better than they did, if they have one of their games then Roma are in serious trouble, esp if Roma have an off day

Our home record in Europe has been great this year, seems to have been overlooked.

3-2 Celtic
3-0 Copenhagen
3-1 Benfica
1-0 Lille.

Obviously Roma are tougher, but it'll be a much different game to last night.

then, on current general form or current CL form

Man Utd and Liverpool

Tweedle wrote:You really think Roma are in that good a position?

I'd say a good position would have been a 1-0 home win or a 3-1 home win: 2-1 puts them in a difficult position.

Utd have the potential to play a hell of a lot better than they did, if they have one of their games then Roma are in serious trouble, esp if Roma have an off day

Still the Italians are saying that Chivu and De Rossi were average last night so they might also raise their game..

Oleguerisntthatgreat wrote:

Tweedle wrote:You really think Roma are in that good a position?

I'd say a good position would have been a 1-0 home win or a 3-1 home win: 2-1 puts them in a difficult position.

Utd have the potential to play a hell of a lot better than they did, if they have one of their games then Roma are in serious trouble, esp if Roma have an off day

Still the Italians are saying that Chivu and De Rossi were average last night so they might also raise their game..

Chivu in fairness didn't have a lot to do, perhaps thats why they said he was average...

De Rossi did well defensively but nothing in the final third - maybe they expected more from him in that department....

If Man Utd do a Roma, start the game at 100 mph or just play like we play in the Premiership then i think we can get a win at Old Trafford.

But there would be no shame in going out to Roma in the Champions League, they do play some of the best football in Europe and i would rather go out to Roma than to go out to Chelsea or Liverpool.

Tweedle wrote:

Oleguerisntthatgreat wrote:

Tweedle wrote:You really think Roma are in that good a position?

I'd say a good position would have been a 1-0 home win or a 3-1 home win: 2-1 puts them in a difficult position.

Utd have the potential to play a hell of a lot better than they did, if they have one of their games then Roma are in serious trouble, esp if Roma have an off day

Still the Italians are saying that Chivu and De Rossi were average last night so they might also raise their game..

Chivu in fairness didn't have a lot to do, perhaps thats why they said he was average...

De Rossi did well defensively but nothing in the final third - maybe they expected more from him in that department....

Also they might consider starting Vucnic.. he really added a cutting edge to the attack, and Mancini will definetely be better as he had a relatively poor game last night.

How the hell are Bayern second on the list? I thought they would go through before the start of the round but any team who can finish will rape them based on the Milan game. They were probably the least impressive team of the round after PSV.

Valencia would be my tip, have been my "dark horses" for a while. A rerun of the 2001 final is possible... (here's hoping)

Liverpool have to be the big favourites at the mo (at least in bookies' terms), as they're the only team all but through to the semis, and besides (I think) definitely the strongest of the English sides in Europe.

Roma impressed me hugely last night – what a wonderful, wonderful team. And fascinating flexible system without a real out-and-out striker. In praising how United got themselves out of a hole the British journalists might acknowledge the extent to which Manchester were (largely) plainly and simply outplayed...

Allez les rouges wrote:Valencia would be my tip, have been my "dark horses" for a while. A rerun of the 2001 final is possible... (here's hoping)

Liverpool have to be the big favourites at the mo (at least in bookies' terms), as they're the only team all but through to the semis, and besides (I think) definitely the strongest of the English sides in Europe.

Roma impressed me hugely last night – what a wonderful, wonderful team. And fascinating flexible system without a real out-and-out striker. In praising how United got themselves out of a hole the British journalists might acknowledge the extent to which Manchester were (largely) plainly and simply outplayed...

WE HAD 10 MEN FOR 60 MINUTES and nearly half our first team missing. Yet Roma only scored through two lucky goals. They played pretty passes, a bit like Arsenal but how many clear cut chances did they create, how many saves did VDS make? They were reduced to pot shots from 30 yards.

Roma played their hearts out and still only won 2-1. We will win at OT with 11 v 11, we have the best player in the world (on current form) and a resurgent Rooney (that goal will really lift him)Roma missed their chance. If thats all they can do against injurey ravaged team with 10 men, I am not that impressed by them.

A team of the calibre we saw last night is certainly well capable of scoring at Old Trafford. I would agree with Park that a 2-1 and extra time is more than possible, but so is a draw or even a Roma win.

I'd agree that Roma should have made the most of their superiority and won 3-1 or more, and United did well to get that crucial away goal. ("Lucky goals" though?! in what way? this is football and their goals were no more than a fair reflection of the game!! Whereas the Rooney goal was plainly against the run of play. Totti had a barnstorming shot that i thpought cannoned off a post but appparently went just wide, etc etc...) But it's not every day you get outplayed, and this I think deserves recognition. It's almost a shame it was 11 v 10, because I think Roma would have continued to outshine United with equal numbers too.

I agree, Roma is the most exciting team left in the CL... I love their movement and the way that the midfielders are constantly darting forward. Overall Roma was very superior to Man Utd last night, also before Scholes was sent off..

But I still expect an entirely different return leg with Ronaldo and Rooney causing many more problems..

I know it's difficult for some to stomach an Italian team, which, in truth, is the 4th force in the country during a normal season, being in a good position, but think about it: if Roma score one goal at OT, Man U need 3.

What if Roma score? Man U will push up and leave themselves even more vulnerable at the back.

OT is hardly a fortress this season. Celtic (!) went there and scored 2.

When Sir Alex Ferguson stops bitching about the ref, he will realize that Roma have a slight advantage and this will be a tricky tie. Man U have a great chance of progressing, but if Roma play like they did at the Olimpico, then they can net at least twice. And I cannot see Man U, without Scholes, score four times against that defence.

55-45 Roma.

Oleguerisntthatgreat wrote:I agree, Roma is the most exciting team left in the CL... I love their movement and the way that the midfielders are constantly darting forward. Overall Roma was very superior to Man Utd last night, also before Scholes was sent off..

But I still expect an entirely different return leg with Ronaldo and Rooney causing many more problems..

For that you can keep Ronaldinho.

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

Oleguerisntthatgreat wrote:I agree, Roma is the most exciting team left in the CL... I love their movement and the way that the midfielders are constantly darting forward. Overall Roma was very superior to Man Utd last night, also before Scholes was sent off..

But I still expect an entirely different return leg with Ronaldo and Rooney causing many more problems..

For that you can keep Ronaldinho.

thank you very much

And remember: No selling a certain Brazilean to RM, ok?

Still if you might be able to get 15 mill for Serginho..

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:I know it's difficult for some to stomach an Italian team, which, in truth, is the 4th force in the country during a normal season, being in a good position, but think about it: if Roma score one goal at OT, Man U need 3.

You do realise 2-1 would see extra time and penalties?

Parks lives wrote:

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:I know it's difficult for some to stomach an Italian team, which, in truth, is the 4th force in the country during a normal season, being in a good position, but think about it: if Roma score one goal at OT, Man U need 3.

You do realise 2-1 would see extra time and penalties?

Yeah I meant win in normal time, which will be crucial for Man U given their Prem aspirations.

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:I know it's difficult for some to stomach an Italian team, which, in truth, is the 4th force in the country during a normal season, being in a good position, but think about it: if Roma score one goal at OT, Man U need 3. ;)

What if Roma score? Man U will push up and leave themselves even more vulnerable at the back.

OT is hardly a fortress this season. Celtic (!) went there and scored 2.

When Sir Alex Ferguson stops bitching about the ref, he will realize that Roma have a slight advantage and this will be a tricky tie. Man U have a great chance of progressing, but if Roma play like they did at the Olimpico, then they can net at least twice. And I cannot see Man U, without Scholes, score four times against that defence.

55-45 Roma.

Roma do have the advantage, but everyone seems to be talking about them as if they beat us the way Real did in 2003. We had 10 men for 60 minutes, they were the home side and didnt really create that many clear cut chances, its not like VDS was making save after save.

Ronaldo is the key for the next game, Roma couldnt handle him and every time he go the ball you could see the fear in the Roma players. For Rooneys goal after he beat 2 of them they all ran towards him creating lots of space for Ole and Rooney. In the 2nd leg we will have more players supporting Ronaldo and there will be many situations in which he will be one and one with a defender,this will definately lead to at least one goal.

Romas method of not having a striker didnt really benefit them last night and they didnt look particularly threatning in the penalty area. Lots of pretty passes in the middle but in the final third, they were reduced to pot shots. Also their defence didnt react to pace that well and with Saha back for the second leg, I am confident we will progress.

Rez, i agree

If Man United win the game .. and progress, it would be greeted on here as the biggest 'injustice' in the history of football

How can this English team beat this Great Italian side ? ..

Ronaldo would be key , never dived once in Rome .. they tried to bring him down in the move for the Rooney goal

Rai Krol wrote:Rez, i agree

If Man United win the game .. and progress, it would be greeted on here as the biggest 'injustice' in the history of football
How can this English team beat this Great Italian side ? ..

Ronaldo would be key , never dived once in Rome .. they tried to bring him down in the move for the Rooney goal

Stop being such a martyr..

Oleguerisntthatgreat wrote:

Rai Krol wrote:Rez, i agree

If Man United win the game .. and progress, it would be greeted on here as the biggest 'injustice' in the history of football
How can this English team beat this Great Italian side ? ..

Ronaldo would be key , never dived once in Rome .. they tried to bring him down in the move for the Rooney goal

Stop being such a martyr..

Roma are the superior team and deserve to progress .. Manchester United are some nobody who deserve not to be in the presence of Totti and co.