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    Post by blutgraetsche Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:00 pm

    Btw., HSV have just officially confirmed the deal.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:06 pm

    Oh, and according to dpa, who are quite reliable, Chelski paid 13 Million Euros for him, just as I had expected. That's ~8.84 million Pounds. A bargain for Chelsea I guess.
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    Post by Kroos Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:55 pm

    what the hell is going on with HSV, totally stupid guys

    1. there only average strikers there
    2. lost both central defenders (buyten, kalihi)


    i think schalke and leverkusen both with better chances this year to reach the third place in the league
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    Post by chrissicross Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:46 pm

    Very strange deal. Might it be Salomon Kalou will move to HSV now, at least on a loan deal? 13 Million Euro isn't a good price for Boulahrouz in my eyes.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the registration deadline for the CL end on August, 15th? Where will the HSV find a replacement for Boulahrouz who is allowed to play for them in the CL?

    And will Boulahrouz be a regular at Chelski or will he have to warm the bench for most of the time?
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:50 pm

    Wow, their hasn't been a EPL cloak-and-dagger transfer like this since Andrew cole moved to Man Utd in 1995.

    Like most on here probably have said, Chelsea are getting a cynical, tough, gritty, versaltile, mobile defender - no area of his game seems to be a major weak point, so it's a good deal I guess.

    Chelsea have enough cash that they'll still make Gallas suffer.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:52 pm

    Deadline is August 15th, but three additional players can be nominated until August 31st latest AFAIK.

    Problem is chrissi: I'd be very surprised to see HSV qualify for the CL now.

    For Chelski, it's an excellent deal. Can't say the same for HSV, I agree.
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    Post by chrissicross Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:00 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:
    For Chelski, it's an excellent deal. Can't say the same for HSV, I agree.
    Hmm, they must already have a replacement for him...HSV can't be that stupid. I wonder who it might be...I remember they were pretty keen on Salomon Kalou...
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    Post by Axeslammer Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:01 pm

    chrissicross wrote:
    blutgraetsche wrote:
    For Chelski, it's an excellent deal. Can't say the same for HSV, I agree.
    Hmm, they must already have a replacement for him...HSV can't be that stupid. I wonder who it might be...I remember they were pretty keen on Salomon Kalou...

    And they still desperately need a striker.....it would make sense

    (so it probably won't happen Wink)
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    Post by chrissicross Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:07 pm

    Axeslammer ! wrote:
    chrissicross wrote:
    blutgraetsche wrote:
    For Chelski, it's an excellent deal. Can't say the same for HSV, I agree.
    Hmm, they must already have a replacement for him...HSV can't be that stupid. I wonder who it might be...I remember they were pretty keen on Salomon Kalou...

    And they still desperately need a striker.....it would make sense

    (so it probably won't happen Wink)
    I wonder what vdV thinks about that? Wouldn't be surprised if he moves to Barca oder Real tomorrow... Wink
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    Post by blutgraetsche Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:08 pm

    Will be interesting to see who will replace him indeed. So far, Beiersdorfer always managed to get a proper replacement, maybe he will do it again this time? Time will tell.

    Still quite a shock for the HSV fans, it doesn't really make sense. HSV got roughly the same sum they could earn by qualifying for the CL, something they definitely have risked with this transfer, even if they get a proper replacement. The central defence simply needs to gel.

    And I agree with Axe, they really need a class striker to have chance in the European competition.
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    Post by Axeslammer Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:16 pm

    chrissicross wrote:
    I wonder what vdV thinks about that? Wouldn't be surprised if he moves to Barca oder Real tomorrow... Wink

    I was thinking the same thing, he seems to have to do it all by himself *again*....exactly like at Ajax, and that didn't go too well Sad
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    Post by chrissicross Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:22 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:Will be interesting to see who will replace him indeed. So far, Beiersdorfer always managed to get a proper replacement, maybe he will do it again this time? Time will tell.

    Still quite a shock for the HSV fans, it doesn't really make sense. HSV got roughly the same sum they could earn by qualifying for the CL, something they definitely have risked with this transfer, even if they get a proper replacement. The central defence simply needs to gel.

    And I agree with Axe, they really need a class striker to have chance in the European competition.
    Hmm, but which class striker might it be? Milan Baros? Do they really want to spend 10 Million for him? Or maybe Rafael Sobis?
    However they're going a high risk with regard to the Osasuna match on Tuesday...the good thing is, if the HSV waste the CL, we'll be 6+ Million richer in the same moment.
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    Post by Axeslammer Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:27 pm

    This is absolutely not good for the German league though...

    Contra-dictionary as it may sound, all the other teams will profit from a strong HSV IMO.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:28 pm

    chrissicross wrote:
    Hmm, but which class striker might it be? Milan Baros? Do they really want to spend 10 Million for him? Or maybe Rafael Sobis?
    However they're going a high risk with regard to the Osasuna match on Tuesday...the good thing is, if the HSV waste the CL, we'll be 6+ Million richer in the same moment.

    The bad thing is, that the UEFA Cup is much less of a problem for them in the Bundesliga than the Champions League is, means it's less exhausting for their squad, making them more competitve in the league. This is especially important for HSV, because their squad lacks depth. Still, I do expect them to have problems this season (at the beginning at least), no matter who they buy as a replacement, they simply have to form a completely new team.

    I seriously doubt that they will be serious contenders for the title now though.
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    Post by chrissicross Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:29 pm

    Axeslammer ! wrote:
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    I wonder what vdV thinks about that? Wouldn't be surprised if he moves to Barca oder Real tomorrow... Wink

    I was thinking the same thing, he seems to have to do it all by himself *again*....exactly like at Ajax, and that didn't go too well Sad
    Yep, exactly. He might think what I'm still doing here when all the other top class players leave? What if they lose the CL qualification and start struggling in the Bundesliga? The HSV can't expect a player like him to stay playing for an UEFA Cup place...
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    Post by blutgraetsche Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:33 pm

    Axeslammer ! wrote:This is absolutely not good for the German league though...

    Contra-dictionary as it may sound, all the other teams will profit from a strong HSV IMO.

    You may have a point, but seriously, in this situation, it is better for the league if HSV does not play in the Champions League. They can earn more points for us in the UEFA cup I'm afraid, they wouldn't really stand a chance in the CL.

    In the long run, I still believe that we will have a strong HSV. Remember that last year was their first good season for a while. HSV is just starting to become a top club, you can't expect them to hold on to their players like Bayern can. My club Werder Bremen had to sell quite a few key players in the past also, still we always managed to replace them well. In the long run, we became even stronger. HSV are in a similar situation like we were in 2004, after we won the double. But, they should not have sold all of their key players with the exception of VDV, that's not what we did at least. We are a few steps ahead, and they want to go the same path. Even if no HSV fan will admit it, but Werder is actually a role model for HSV these days.
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    Post by chrissicross Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:38 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:
    chrissicross wrote:
    Hmm, but which class striker might it be? Milan Baros? Do they really want to spend 10 Million for him? Or maybe Rafael Sobis?
    However they're going a high risk with regard to the Osasuna match on Tuesday...the good thing is, if the HSV waste the CL, we'll be 6+ Million richer in the same moment.

    The bad thing is, that the UEFA Cup is much less of a problem for them in the Bundesliga than the Champions League is, means it's less exhausting for their squad, making them more competitve in the league. This is especially important for HSV, because their squad lacks depth. Still, I do expect them to have problems this season (at the beginning at least), no matter who they buy as a replacement, they simply have to form a completely new team.

    I seriously doubt that they will be serious contenders for the title now though.
    If they don't significantly strange their squad again they can't even expect to become third in the Bundesliga in my eyes. And if they find proper replacement it still takes time to create a good team...really, they need a wonder with regard to the Osasuna match...
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    Post by chrissicross Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:47 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:
    You may have a point, but seriously, in this situation, it is better for the league if HSV does not play in the Champions League. They can earn more points for us in the UEFA cup I'm afraid, they wouldn't really stand a chance in the CL.
    Agreed.

    blutgraetsche wrote:In the long run, I still believe that we will have a strong HSV. Remember that last year was their first good season for a while. HSV is just starting to become a top club, you can't expect them to hold on to their players like Bayern can. My club Werder Bremen had to sell quite a few key players in the past also, still we always managed to replace them well. In the long run, we became even stronger. HSV are in a similar situation like we were in 2004, after we won the double. But, they should not have sold all of their key players with the exception of VDV, that's not what we did at least. We are a few steps ahead, and they want to go the same path. Even if no HSV fan will admit it, but Werder is actually a role model for HSV these days.
    But we have KATS. Very Happy Cool The HSV have only Doll and Beiersdorfer... Neutral
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    Post by blutgraetsche Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:55 pm

    KATS can not be replaced. My biggest fear is that once Hoeness retires in a few years, Bayern may try to lure Allofs to Munich. Imagine someone like Allofs and the budget of Bayern - they'd be unbeatable. Hoeness might be very good when it comes to the financial aspect, but nobody comes even (k)close to Allofs when transfers are concerned, he is a genius.

    Hope that he won't though, hope that he and Thomas Schaaf create a true European top club on their own. Smile
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    Post by chrissicross Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:11 am

    blutgraetsche wrote:KATS can not be replaced. My biggest fear is that once Hoeness retires in a few years, Bayern may try to lure Allofs to Munich.
    Yeah, that's my biggest nightmare as well...sell anyone else, but Allofs must stay in Bremen. Let's hope both Allofs and Schaaf will never leave... Smile bounce
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    Post by S4P Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:17 am

    why on earth would kalou go to HSV when he's only just arrived at chelsea? confused scratch
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    Post by blutgraetsche Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:18 am

    Agree, doesn't make any sense, and won't happen anyway. Huth transfer won't happen either btw. Chelsea just paid the price, no big deal for them.
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    Post by L r d Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:57 am

    "He is a good competitive player and will be a good addition to our squad," Chelsea's assistant manager Steve Clarke told Chelsea TV.

    "He can play centre-back or either full-back position. I think he is right-footed"


    err... Erm
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    Post by christmasborocooper Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:01 am

    Is the Huth to Boro deal EVER going to happen?
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    Post by blutgraetsche Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:31 am

    If Huth doesn't find a new club very soon, he can basically forget about his international career at least.
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    Post by chrissicross Sat Aug 19, 2006 9:43 am

    S4P wrote:why on earth would kalou go to HSV when he's only just arrived at chelsea? confused scratch
    Selling Boulahrouz at the moment is not a good deal for the HSV imo, even for 13 Million Euro. So I thought Chelsea might sell or loan a player to the HSV as part of the deal. HSV is certain to need a striker and Salomon Kalou was their wish player number one, and during the negotiations he made clear he could imagine to play for the HSV. And I've read Kalou is more a future player for Chelsea so they would probably agree on a loan deal to give him enough match practice, at the HSV he would be striker number one and could perhaps play CL as well. So the Boulahrouz deal would have been a win-win situation imo...
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    Post by Tweesus Sat Aug 19, 2006 9:59 am

    BASTARDS

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    Post by DD Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:35 am

    Tweedledum wrote:BASTARDS

    I am not Happy.
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    Post by Parks lives Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:40 am

    Hopefully Ronaldo will kick him in the nuts.
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    Post by DD Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:46 am

    Sir Parks Lives wrote:Hopefully Ronaldo will kick him in the nuts.
    Yes, I'm sure that'll keep The Cannibal awake at night. Laugh

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