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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Fri May 18, 2007 4:55 pm

    so you want madrid, milan and liverpool to be in every final get a bit boring wouldn´t it?
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    Post by Machiavel Fri May 18, 2007 4:55 pm

    Luis wrote:
    Rai Krol wrote:
    Luis wrote:a final with two European giants, the way it should be

    Explain further.

    What's to Explain? Milan have won it 6 times, Liverpool have won it 5, the only team who has done better is Madrid, therefore two of the greatest teams in the history of the competition are battling it out in the final, that is what it's all about

    For sure ; Milan + Liverpool two of the most successful 3 .. but teams with 5 or less deserve to be in Finals due to merit

    That is what the European Cup is about ..

    the European Cup is not a monopoly for 3
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    Post by COTR Fri May 18, 2007 4:56 pm

    Luis wrote:Ye of course, Don't get me wrong I respect Milan a great deal I just don't buy into all this 'slag your oponents off before hand' attitude, maybe I was wrong with Milan, Mourinho was certainly guilty of it.

    May the best team win, Milan are a fantastic team with fantastic fans and it is a final with two European giants, the way it should be
    you have to accept that they have something to feel bitter about luis

    we go into the game with nothing but positive thoughts

    they go in with the memory of isntabul still weighing heavily on their minds

    the press releases are just normal behaviour from them in such a situation IMO
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    Post by Luis Fri May 18, 2007 4:56 pm

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:so you want madrid, milan and liverpool to be in every final get a bit boring wouldn´t it?

    That's exactly what I said Rolling Eyes

    It is a fantastic occasion that's all, both teams have so much history in the competition, both have a special connection with the cup and therfore the powers that be have guided the two teams to the final.
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    Post by COTR Fri May 18, 2007 4:57 pm

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:so you want madrid, milan and liverpool to be in every final get a bit boring wouldn´t it?
    you know what he meant frank. stop being difficult


    same as people claiming 2moro's cup final to be 'the dream lineup'
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    Post by Parks lives Fri May 18, 2007 4:58 pm

    It is. Two best teams in the competition.
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    Post by Luis Fri May 18, 2007 4:59 pm

    Parks lives wrote:It is. Two best teams in the competition.

    Ditto for Europe and I don't care what you say, neither team has had it easy, both teams deserve to be in the final 100%
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    Post by Luis Fri May 18, 2007 7:37 pm

    So be honest how many times have you watched your Istanbul DVD's? Smile I have watched it about 100 times since 2005 but It has been given a few watches as well as of late, anyone see one night in may on sky in 2005? I recorded it and put it on DVD, that's fantastic, it sums up the night perfectly
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    Post by COTR Fri May 18, 2007 8:45 pm

    COTR wrote:
    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:i´d have been amazed if he didn´t have alonso and mascherano in the centre mid, this is a completely different proposition to chelsea with their formation. gerrard from the right with reasonable license to rome and a more explosive left side player as this is an area imho which can be exploited by liverpool

    kewell- just back from injury

    auerlio - injured

    garcia - injured

    the only other option would be riise with arbeloa at right back but he won't do this.

    personally I think it will be

    gerrard.....xabi...mascha...kewell

    but it could easily be zenden for kewell


    Just realised I completely forgot about gonzalez frank

    What an impact he has made this season Laughing
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    Post by Luis Fri May 18, 2007 8:48 pm

    I am willing to bet money now that this will be the starting line up:

    ............................Reina..........................

    ....Finnan, Carragher, Agger, Riise...............

    ..............Mascherano.......Alonso..........

    ...Pennant..................................Kewell............

    .......................Gerrard..................................

    .............................Kuyt..............................
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    Post by COTR Fri May 18, 2007 8:53 pm

    Lots of bookies will snap your hands off at that bet luis

    for all we know it could be

    ...................reina

    finnan.....carra....agger....arbeloa

    .............momo...mascha
    ......................xabi
    gerrard.........................zenden
    ....................crouch

    Rafa could easily bug us yet again with hsi team selection

    But im going with the one you have just posted or

    ...................reina

    finnan.....carra.....agger...riise

    gerrard...xabi......mascha..kewell

    ..............kuyt.....bellamy


    crouch and pennant to come on in the second half
    fowler coming on at the end of extra time to knock home the winning penalty
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    Post by Luis Fri May 18, 2007 8:55 pm

    All the signs point to my prediction but you're right, however I can't see Bellamy starting at all
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    Post by COTR Fri May 18, 2007 8:57 pm

    Luis wrote:All the signs point to my prediction but you're right, however I can't see Bellamy starting at all
    I can easily


    Bellamy against the 'creaky' milan backline Whistle Wink

    he has a 50/50 chance with crouch IMo if we play 2 strikers
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    Post by Luis Fri May 18, 2007 8:58 pm

    Bellamy's lack of involvment lately suggests Benitez has given up with him
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    Post by COTR Fri May 18, 2007 9:00 pm

    Luis wrote:Bellamy's lack of involvment lately suggests Benitez has given up with him
    maybe, and he will be sold

    but rafa cares little for sentiment and if he thinks pace and working the flanks will be more beneficial to us than a static targetman then bellamy will get the nod
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    Post by Pirlo Fri May 18, 2007 10:25 pm

    To the Liverpool fans.

    Ancelotti does not 'slag off' opponents, nor has he even criticised Liverpool, i really don't understand where you are getting all these interviews from? scratch

    In fact, Ancelotti is an incredibly humble and gracious coach, he is humble in victory, he is humble in defeat, he may be quite dull to listen to, but he comes across as a very nice man.

    As Ancelotti laughed earlier, he cannot understand where your medias are getting all these 'stories' and 'quotes' from! Biggrin

    You would hope that instead of creating 'stories' and trying to invent controversy, the medias would focus on a final which surely will have unbelievable emotion and meaning, two sets of passionate and vocal fans, two sides who together with Real Madrid 'own' this competition, two sides who cherish and love this trophy, and two fantastic coaches, both with different philosophies, a genuine clash of two football ethics which cause great battles.
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    Post by Machiavel Fri May 18, 2007 10:28 pm

    If AC Milan win ; Bayern + Ajax need 1 more European Cup to equal Liverpool's 5 .. it may not happen , but both those teams do cherish the Cup ?
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    Post by fcb Fri May 18, 2007 10:50 pm

    Luis wrote:So be honest how many times have you watched your Istanbul DVD's? Smile I have watched it about 100 times since 2005 but It has been given a few watches as well as of late, anyone see one night in may on sky in 2005? I recorded it and put it on DVD, that's fantastic, it sums up the night perfectly

    100 times ??? Shocked Shocked Shocked
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    Post by Mexicanbecks Fri May 18, 2007 10:59 pm

    kas wrote:
    Luis wrote:So be honest how many times have you watched your Istanbul DVD's? Smile I have watched it about 100 times since 2005 but It has been given a few watches as well as of late, anyone see one night in may on sky in 2005? I recorded it and put it on DVD, that's fantastic, it sums up the night perfectly

    100 times ??? Shocked Shocked Shocked

    yeah...... anyways my bet is 2:1 milan . kaka (of course) and pirlo with gerrard scoring as well
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    Post by Luis Sat May 19, 2007 6:24 pm

    I thought we were going to get another slice of de ja vu then and the FA cup final was going to go to penalties after a poor game but not quite.

    Let's show them how a final is mean to be, after all no one does final's like Liverpool

    Come on you reds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Post by Batman Sat May 19, 2007 7:10 pm

    Milan 2 - 3 Udinese
    Asamoah 10 (U), Gourcuff 36 (M), Di Natale 53 (U), Costacurta pen 57 (M), Barreto 61 (U)
    Stadio Meazza

    Milan: Storari; Bonera, Simic, Favalli (Darmian 67), Grimi (Guerci 76); Brocchi, Costacurta (Di Gennaro 59), Gourcuff, Serginho; Borriello, Oliveira
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    Post by Mexicanbecks Sat May 19, 2007 7:11 pm

    Batman wrote:Milan 2 - 3 Udinese
    Asamoah 10 (U), Gourcuff 36 (M), Di Natale 53 (U), Costacurta pen 57 (M), Barreto 61 (U)
    Stadio Meazza

    Milan: Storari; Bonera, Simic, Favalli (Darmian 67), Grimi (Guerci 76); Brocchi, Costacurta (Di Gennaro 59), Gourcuff, Serginho; Borriello, Oliveira

    wow thats like the entire squad rested
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    Post by Rafalution Sat May 19, 2007 9:12 pm

    I think the team Rafa will choose will be:

    --------------Reina------------
    Finnan--Carra--Agger--Riise
    -------------Masch------------
    --------Alonso---Momo-------
    ------------Gerrard-----------
    ----------Bellamy--Kuyt------

    Crouch to come on near the end of the game.


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    Post by Luis Sat May 19, 2007 9:13 pm

    Rafa wrote:I think the team Rafa will choose will be:

    --------------Reina------------
    Finnan--Carra--Agger--Riise
    -------------Sissoko----------
    -------Alonso----Masch-------
    -----------Gerrard-------------
    ----------Bellamy--Kuyt------

    Crouch to come on near the end of the game.

    You serious?
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    Post by Rafalution Sat May 19, 2007 9:21 pm

    Yes, i am serious. Now lets see if my prediction will be correct!

    I think we need Sissoko, Masch and Alonso to mark Pirlo, Kaka, Seedorf


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    Post by shazlx Sat May 19, 2007 9:22 pm

    Rafa wrote:I think the team Rafa will choose will be:

    --------------Reina------------
    Finnan--Carra--Agger--Riise
    -------------Sissoko----------
    -------Alonso----Masch-------
    -----------Gerrard-------------
    ----------Bellamy--Kuyt------

    Crouch to come on near the end of the game.
    If this is the system played then I think Masch will be the sitting midfielder with Sissoko being box-to-box. I would also prefer Alonso and Gerrard to swap places.
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    Post by Rafalution Sat May 19, 2007 9:28 pm

    Rafa might opt for one striker, then the lineup may be:

    --------------Reina------------
    Finnan--Carra--Agger--Riise
    -------------Masch------------
    -------Alonso----Momo-------
    Gerrard-----------------Kewell
    ----------Kuyt/Crouch---------
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    Post by None Sun May 20, 2007 2:43 am

    WORST POSSIBLE NEWS FOR MILAN

    Pele wrote:


    “It is logical that they (Milan) are the favourites, considering how they improved against Bayern Munich and Manchester United. This is the great opportunity to take revenge for Istanbul. This will be a very different game to the two legs against Manchester United. Liverpool do not play that kind of spectacular, open and attacking football. They are physically strong, clam up and go on the counter pushed by Steven Gerrard. A cool head will be essential. I can imagine a great battle between Javier Mascherano and Gennaro Gattuso. Milan are technically superior and have two players who can make the difference – Kaka and Seedorf. The Dutchman gives a quiet balance, hides the ball from opponents and provides assists. Together those two equal a Champions League winning combination. Whatever the result, it looks as if Kaka will be crowned top scorer for this competition, having already netted 10 goals. He is the best player in the world along with Ronaldinho. I hope he can bring the Champions League to Milan. He above all reminds me of Johann Cruyff with that progression, pace, eye for goal and when he starts from midfield he’s unique. Kaka has improved so much – more than I thought possible –even if you could tell from a young age he would go far. When he is on form, Milan are devastating. Cristiano Ronaldo is on the road to being among the best, but there’s a long way to go yet. He reminds me of Julinho, who played for Palmeiras and Fiorentina. I put him in the second tier along with Lionel Messi and Wayne Rooney.

    So, that's the verdict of football legend/prediction idiot Pele.

    Pretty fair assessment by him, to be fair. Still doesn't bode well for Milan fans.
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    Post by fcb Sun May 20, 2007 5:04 am

    Yeah they're in trouble. Everything Pele predicts/says turns out to be wrong. Poor Milan.
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    Post by Rafalution Sun May 20, 2007 2:04 pm

    Rafa:
    "Six weeks ago it might have been us who were the favourites but now AC Milan have beaten Manchester United and maybe people think they are favourites.

    "It doesn't matter, really. We still approach the game in the same way. They have a good team, we have a good team."

    He added: "I still have my notes from Istanbul - not as a souvenir but because I will use them.

    "It is important to remember things, so you can correct mistakes next time. You never know when you might be playing against the same team again.

    "I will be using them again, for sure and probably making some fresh ones.

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