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    Post by Parks lives Sat May 05, 2007 6:38 pm

    kas wrote:Well, you can't really blame him for writing off Gilardino. His goal wasn't anything special and came late on when Man. Utd. were pressing high up the field.

    That part was the only part of his article I agreed with.

    ok

    Doubt he'd of scored or had the room to score that if we were still in the game. Silly to write off Seedorf though.
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    Post by Dejan Savićević Sat May 05, 2007 7:06 pm

    It was silly of him to write any player off.
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Sat May 05, 2007 7:43 pm

    kas wrote:Well, you can't really blame him for writing off Gilardino. His goal wasn't anything special and came late on when Man. Utd. were pressing high up the field.

    That part was the only part of his article I agreed with.

    he wrote off gila and seedorf and they both scored! what a fool!
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Fri May 11, 2007 12:12 am

    merseyman wrote:
    BoBo Vieri wrote:I don't know who;s worse, Tyldesley or Drury. Drury's cliches get so tiring, while Tyldlsey starts acting like an arrogant twat when English teams are doing well, and he's changed his mind about 5 times during the year as to who the best player in the world is. Sounded like he was about to climax when Rooney scored his second last week aswell! Razz

    Italy breeds 'em: Beppe Dossena, Fulvio Collovati, Gianni Cerquetti... take your pick. Bruno Pizzul, the great grandaddy of biased Italian commentators, was pensioned off a couple of years ago, but he was a pastmaster of "piloting" a game. No matter what your eyes were seeing, he'd tell you how it really was Very Happy Very Happy

    Actually, I've been living here for 23 years and there's been no sign of improvement (if anything, they get worse!), so I'm now convinced it's a gene thing. If anyone ever praises foreign football, or criticises the domestic game, they don't last long Wink Maurizio Pistocchi was certainly one of the more acute observers of the game, with an excellent knowledge of international football. But he didn't cream himself over the likes of Totti, and he also blotted his copybook last year when Barcellona beat Udinese in the CL by describing it as a footballing lesson, etc., to the extent that the Udinese manager complained on TV! I haven't seen Pistocchi since, though he might be working for a private network.

    We used to crease up laughing at the comments of Giacomo Bulgarelli and Flavio (?) Colombo on TMC in the mid-80s: "This no. 7 for Brazil looks useful... do you think he's good enough for Serie A, Bulgarelli?". "No, I don't think he's quite ready yet, Colombo". Give us a break!

    I was amazed when I first came out here to hear commentators using the first person plural when following matches. "Corner for our lads!"... "If we can press them in their third of the field, then we're home and dry!". I suppose the attitude is: "Why bother to pretend we're impartial when we obviously aren't?". But it becomes a trifle tedious when they're repeatedly saying: "That was a foul on Pirlo, but unfortunately the referee didn't see it".

    I think we've touched on this issue before. Punditry, commentary or op-eds in the English language have greater currency than ones in Italian, Spanish etc. simply because more people read them and listen to them. This board is a prime example of why people from disparate backgrounds can agree on how unbelievably bad Gray's article is.

    As such, in my opinion, English speaking observers--whether they be English, Irish, American, or East Indian--have a greater obligation towards impartiality.

    Also the suit-and-ties across the channel pride themselves on this supposed passionately impartial approach towards commentary. So, it is particularly egregious when they jettison their credo and concoct absurd pieces of this variety.

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