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    Post by Allez les rouges Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:33 pm

    Gosh, Ricardo seems to have been getting a hard time on here, when he seems mostly to be a kind and intelligent chap (except when he's being reflexively anti-German). I actually think he has a point, but it's quite a subtle one – England in general and London in particular are incomparably cosmopolitan _statistically_, but at a deeper level it's far too easy to suggest it's one big happy multicultural family living together. In my experience the Polish immigrants tend to hang out disproportionately with other Poles, same issue with young French people I used to teach, ditto with people of different backgrounds and esp classes. This cosmopolitan and multicultural thing is very shallow and masks a deep conservatism in English/British society, which all the congratulatory back-slapping tends to hide.

    On a wider note, London must be not so much the most overrated city in the world as the most overrated THING. When will the penny drop that it is the most unreal con? In the true sense, "confidence trick".

    Abuse for me on this might be better on another thread, though I've hardly got the time ;-)

    Oh and Pele, re Saturday – although you v Andorra should really be all about the performance, I'm v confident about Ireland right now too, even with the third-choice central defence (think they have injury issues as well). The Czechs and maybe the Slovakians might be a different matter. And as far as I know the match is in Stuttgart, like the third-place World Cup game against Portugal.

    I shall have to resort to an appropriate hostelry to see it (this is where I would use the "ale" motif if I could access it...)
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    Post by 72-76-80-96-08 Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:01 pm

    @ Peter und der Wolf

    where in London do you watch Bundesliga games ?

    the Bavarian Pub in the East End (Shoreditch) ??
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    Post by Allez les rouges Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:26 pm

    This is a rather personal question but I think you may have the one I've visited a few times lately. It probably does just about qualify as Shoreditch (Old St/City Road) – I'm not an East End expert – and as far as I know it's pretty new isn't it?

    Were you in London before? And are you really in Kalifornien now? If so you started early today...
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    Post by SteveOoO Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:07 pm

    London is an amazing city, its just ridiculously expensive and I'd never live there unless I had a very well paid job (like £60k+).

    You are all missing the point anyway; when are our German firends going to apologise for Diesler's haircut? (which is actualy what started this argument off)
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:21 am

    @Steveo

    You only try to turn the discussion in another direction...

    That's poor debating No
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    Post by SteveOoO Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:45 am

    ricardojol wrote:@Steveo

    You only try to turn the discussion in another direction...

    That's poor debating No
    no... this argument started because I said Germany should publicly apologise for Diesler's haircut, or be ostracized from the international community.

    The Germans got a little upsette and starting calling me a facist or something along those lines.

    And you are talking a lot of bollocks so I stopped arguing with you.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:04 am

    You obviously don't want to understand what I wrote! That's a different story! Wink
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    Post by SteveOoO Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:58 am

    ricardojol wrote:You obviously don't want to understand what I wrote! That's a different story! Wink

    Watch it, or we'll start demanding aplogies for offences against mulletry of the '80s Dutch team!
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Mon Sep 04, 2006 10:38 am

    Holland - England 3-1 (3x Van Basten)!!!!! Wink
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    Post by Tweesus Mon Sep 04, 2006 10:40 am

    Holland 1-4 England - SAS Wink
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:27 am

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